Turkish military offensive in Syria/Rojava

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

https://twitter.com/BarzanSadiq/status/1183469177283207171

#Syrian army heading towards #Raqqa oil fields.

Seems like they're near Raqqa. Or even already past it. That's a major gain for them. More oil supplies plus a better airforce location.

I was right, when the whole thing started, I predicted Assad coming out on top. Let’s hope this puts the nail in the coffin for ISIS once and for all, and brings the war to a Syria victory

[Loben The 2nd]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aint that ironic? Assad is suddenly the good guy again.

It's not about who'se good, or who's bad. It's about what is happening.

You have to be disillusioned if you think the SDF has the upper hand in this.

the SDF was doomed from the start.

you cant fight a proper army with shitty light infantry.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

The Syrian army?

after 8 years at war with its own country?

ill take my chances with the fresh Turkish army.

Syrian army decisively won against the “free” Syrian army

[I dont even know who to root for]

The Syrian army?

after 8 years at war with its own country?

ill take my chances with the fresh Turkish army.

The Turkish army won't do anything. They wanted the buffer zone to protect themselves from the PKK aligned forces (aka SDF). This narrative is now done for because the SAA takes the border. That's the whole point.

SAA got support of the Russian federation and Iran. I don't think Erdogan wants to risk trouble with these powers.

[I dont even know who to root for]

It's not about who'se good, or who's bad. It's about what is happening.

You have to be disillusioned if you think the SDF has the upper hand in this.

the SDF was doomed from the start.

you cant fight a proper army with shitty light infantry.

Laughs in Vietnamese

[Loben The 2nd]

after 8 years at war with its own country?

ill take my chances with the fresh Turkish army.

Syrian army decisively won against the “free” Syrian army

after years of heavy fighting and likely tens of thousands dead.

what do they have left? tanks? aircraft? men? guns?

[Vistulange]

Think it's possible to hold off on commentating about how a clash between Turkish Armed Forces and Assad's forces would go until after it begins?

[Loben The 2nd]

the SDF was doomed from the start.

you cant fight a proper army with shitty light infantry.

Laughs in Vietnamese

let me reword that.

shittier light infantry.

[Loben The 2nd]

after 8 years at war with its own country?

ill take my chances with the fresh Turkish army.

The Turkish army won't do anything. They wanted the buffer zone to protect themselves from the PKK aligned forces (aka SDF). This narrative is now done for because the SAA takes the border. That's the whole point.

SAA got support of the Russian federation and Iran. I don't think Erdogan wants to risk trouble with these powers.

Russia and Iran likely doesnt want to piss off NATO.

[I dont even know who to root for]

Syrian army decisively won against the “free” Syrian army

after years of heavy fighting and likely tens of thousands dead.

what do they have left? tanks? aircraft? men? guns?

The Russian Federation's economy and the risk of loosing trade deals with the Russian Federation. Turkey has risks to loose that.

Think it's possible to hold off on commentating about how a clash between Turkish Armed Forces and Assad's forces would go until after it begins?

Which won't happen. And if it does then it will be against the Turkish proxies AKA TFSA.

[SD_Film Artists]

Syrian Kurdish officials say they will work with Assad forces to repel Turkish offensive and to capture areas held by Turkey

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/13- ... -work-with

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status ... 9121785866

I thought the Assad regime were critical of both sides- Turkey for crossing its boarders and Rojava for splitting up the country. It makes you wonder what the price was for this alliance.

https://www.dw.com/en/syria-moves-troop ... a-50816829

According to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), a deal has been reached through which Syrian government forces will protect the Kurdish-held towns of Kobani and Manbij.

So basically Syria is going to stand-in for US troops at the patrolled zone along the Turkish boarder, plus whatever Russia wants.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

You should probably read my sig if you think I’m right wing

That's why I think you're right wing. Among other things.

Whatever you say…

[Vistulange]

Which won't happen. And if it does then it will be against the Turkish proxies AKA TFSA.

Pretty much my point. Not that I'm infinitely sure, as it was pointed out in this very thread that there's an infinite capacity for error and mistakes during war itself.

[Gormwood]

the SDF was doomed from the start.

you cant fight a proper army with shitty light infantry.

Laughs in Vietnamese

Charlie had NVA and Soviet help.

[I dont even know who to root for]

Laughs in Vietnamese

Charlie had NVA and Soviet help.

Doesn't invalidate the point made.

[Vistulange]

Laughs in Vietnamese

Charlie had NVA and Soviet help.

The YPG has American materiel support. Unless they've managed to get .50 cals on their own.

[Loben The 2nd]

Charlie had NVA and Soviet help.

The YPG has American materiel support. Unless they've managed to get .50 cals on their own.

i think the key word should be *had*. they likely have limited supply now.

[I dont even know who to root for]

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/13- ... ountryside

Syria army has begun entering Manbij countryside, NPA network confirm SAA entering al-Farat, Arab Hassan, al-Dandaliya and al-Jamousiya, the distance is estimated 70 km.

Question is who will reach Manbij first.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

https://www.france24.com/en/20191012-thousands-protest-in-europe-against-turkey-s-syria-offensive

Antifa supporting a pro-Kurdish rally? I thought they'd be happy to piss all over a US ally.

We see who is friendly, who is enemy,I hope the terrorists in Syria surrender,Hero Turkish army will not harm those who surrender.

[I dont even know who to root for]

Erdogan adviser Yasin Aktay: "If the Syrian regime army try to enter northeastern Syria, Turkey will respond, so there could be conflict between the two armies."

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/13- ... ian-regime

Fun times garuanteed

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm not going to refute your point with a Tu quoque and you do have a good one that I agree with, but I'm not going to lie, it is ironic for you to complain about suppressing opposition.

I’m a fascist myself, I’m saying a group that claims to fight for freedom supports regimes that suppress freedom

Yes, I get your point, and it is valid. They shouldn't be jailing opponents. I'm saying it is ironic coming from you because fascism is known for doing pretty bad things to its opponents in its own right.

[SD_Film Artists]

after 8 years at war with its own country?

ill take my chances with the fresh Turkish army.

The Turkish army won't do anything. They wanted the buffer zone to protect themselves from the PKK aligned forces (aka SDF). This narrative is now done for because the SAA takes the border. That's the whole point.

SAA got support of the Russian federation and Iran. I don't think Erdogan wants to risk trouble with these powers.

So I guess he'll 'save face' buy saying that he got the buffer zone that he was looking for (and already had), with the possible exception that Turkey might not be able to dump its Syrian refugees in the originally proposed 20-mile Lebensraum.

[I dont even know who to root for]

The Turkish army won't do anything. They wanted the buffer zone to protect themselves from the PKK aligned forces (aka SDF). This narrative is now done for because the SAA takes the border. That's the whole point.

SAA got support of the Russian federation and Iran. I don't think Erdogan wants to risk trouble with these powers.

So I guess he'll 'save face' buy saying that he got the buffer zone that he was looking for (and already had), with the possible exception that Turkey might not be able to dump its Syrian refugees in the originally proposed 20-mile Lebensraum.

Thats what I thought as well but seems like the absolute mad man has other ideas.

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/13- ... ian-regime

[Loben The 2nd]

The Turkish army won't do anything. They wanted the buffer zone to protect themselves from the PKK aligned forces (aka SDF). This narrative is now done for because the SAA takes the border. That's the whole point.

SAA got support of the Russian federation and Iran. I don't think Erdogan wants to risk trouble with these powers.

So I guess he'll 'save face' buy saying that he got the buffer zone that he was looking for (and already had), with the possible exception that Turkey might not be able to dump its Syrian refugees in the originally proposed 20-mile Lebensraum.

not really dumping them as *handing them back to syria*

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

We see who is friendly, who is enemy,I hope the terrorists in Syria surrender,Hero Turkish army will not harm those who surrender.

Yeah, that’s totally a real picture that’s totally not sourced from a Turkish website with the country code .tr

I’m a fascist myself, I’m saying a group that claims to fight for freedom supports regimes that suppress freedom

Yes, I get your point, and it is valid. They shouldn't be jailing opponents. I'm saying it is ironic coming from you because fascism is known for doing pretty bad things to its opponents in its own right.

I know, that’s part of the ideology in fascism’s case. With the YPG, it’s hypocrisy