i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.
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by Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:27 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:29 pm
by The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:30 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:30 pm
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:34 pm
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:35 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:35 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:35 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really
He released refugees into europe, we should return the favor and release our top 1000 most dangerous criminals into ankara. Not a single shot needs to be fired to stop erdogan. All trump has to do is embrace that fire he had in 2016 and make erdogan legit think he's crazy enough to bring terror and misery to turkey through unconventional methods. See people like when there's a plan even if it's terrible, but the minute there's chaos and unpredictability then they get scared. Threatening sanctions against erdogan won't work. Threatening to take the craziest approach possible might. Erdogan wouldn't be invading syria right now if there was a chance America might actually use its weapons on his troops in a fire fight
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:39 pm
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:39 pm
Loben The 2nd wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
He released refugees into europe, we should return the favor and release our top 1000 most dangerous criminals into ankara. Not a single shot needs to be fired to stop erdogan. All trump has to do is embrace that fire he had in 2016 and make erdogan legit think he's crazy enough to bring terror and misery to turkey through unconventional methods. See people like when there's a plan even if it's terrible, but the minute there's chaos and unpredictability then they get scared. Threatening sanctions against erdogan won't work. Threatening to take the craziest approach possible might. Erdogan wouldn't be invading syria right now if there was a chance America might actually use its weapons on his troops in a fire fight
you do know that Turkey is a NATO ally right?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:42 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Loben The 2nd wrote:
you do know that Turkey is a NATO ally right?
Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.
As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:43 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Played on their fear of refugees
Precisely. I was just reading about nationalism in modern europe today. That would probably be enough to stir the pot into the favor of those parties, and increase the power of those parties that are in power. Scary thought
by Duhon » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:46 pm
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:46 pm
Loben The 2nd wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Precisely. I was just reading about nationalism in modern europe today. That would probably be enough to stir the pot into the favor of those parties, and increase the power of those parties that are in power. Scary thought
not so scary as it makes sense.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Cyrothica » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:46 pm
Loben The 2nd wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.
As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.
Its a neat thing called priorities.
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:47 pm
Loben The 2nd wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.
As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.
Its a neat thing called priorities.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:47 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Napkizemlja » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:48 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:48 pm
Duhon wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really
if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see
by Duhon » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:49 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Duhon wrote:
if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see
As I've said, neo-nazis are already on the rise. I don't wanna push them
by Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:51 pm
Napkizemlja wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.
You mean just the two that it's involved in? One of which isn't involving the deployment of combat personnel, rather just advisers?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Napkizemlja » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:53 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Napkizemlja wrote:You mean just the two that it's involved in? One of which isn't involving the deployment of combat personnel, rather just advisers?
NATO is pushing up against Russia and has also become entangled in a middle east conflict that pits US backed kurds against the Turkish sharia state. That's two too many
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:54 pm
by Duhon » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:54 pm
Meligoland wrote:Duhon wrote:
if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see
the obvious downside is they cost millions to deal with, create political tension, and they're hard to identify since they rarely carry ID.
by SD_Film Artists » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:55 pm
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