Turkish military offensive in Syria/Rojava

[Loben The 2nd]

they did however support an insurgency.

And? so has just about every major country at one time or another.

Donnie has taught the future a lesson. Don’t fight for the US.

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well Kurdistan was nice while it lasted

[The Black Forrest]

And? so has just about every major country at one time or another.

Donnie has taught the future a lesson. Don’t fight for the US.

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

Don’t worry our sanctions will bring them to their knees. Just like Cuba!!!!!

[Internationalist Bastard]

And? so has just about every major country at one time or another.

Donnie has taught the future a lesson. Don’t fight for the US.

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

[Loben The 2nd]

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

Big brained enough to make them be quiet.

[Rojava Free State]

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

He released refugees into europe, we should return the favor and release our top 1000 most dangerous criminals into ankara. Not a single shot needs to be fired to stop erdogan. All trump has to do is embrace that fire he had in 2016 and make erdogan legit think he's crazy enough to bring terror and misery to turkey through unconventional methods. See people like when there's a plan even if it's terrible, but the minute there's chaos and unpredictability then they get scared. Threatening sanctions against erdogan won't work. Threatening to take the craziest approach possible might. Erdogan wouldn't be invading syria right now if there was a chance America might actually use its weapons on his troops in a fire fight

[Rojava Free State]

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

Big brained enough to make them be quiet.

Played on their fear of refugees

[Loben The 2nd]

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

He released refugees into europe, we should return the favor and release our top 1000 most dangerous criminals into ankara. Not a single shot needs to be fired to stop erdogan. All trump has to do is embrace that fire he had in 2016 and make erdogan legit think he's crazy enough to bring terror and misery to turkey through unconventional methods. See people like when there's a plan even if it's terrible, but the minute there's chaos and unpredictability then they get scared. Threatening sanctions against erdogan won't work. Threatening to take the craziest approach possible might. Erdogan wouldn't be invading syria right now if there was a chance America might actually use its weapons on his troops in a fire fight

you do know that Turkey is a NATO ally right?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Big brained enough to make them be quiet.

Played on their fear of refugees

Precisely. I was just reading about nationalism in modern europe today. That would probably be enough to stir the pot into the favor of those parties, and increase the power of those parties that are in power. Scary thought

[Rojava Free State]

He released refugees into europe, we should return the favor and release our top 1000 most dangerous criminals into ankara. Not a single shot needs to be fired to stop erdogan. All trump has to do is embrace that fire he had in 2016 and make erdogan legit think he's crazy enough to bring terror and misery to turkey through unconventional methods. See people like when there's a plan even if it's terrible, but the minute there's chaos and unpredictability then they get scared. Threatening sanctions against erdogan won't work. Threatening to take the craziest approach possible might. Erdogan wouldn't be invading syria right now if there was a chance America might actually use its weapons on his troops in a fire fight

you do know that Turkey is a NATO ally right?

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.

[Loben The 2nd]

you do know that Turkey is a NATO ally right?

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.

Its a neat thing called priorities.

[Loben The 2nd]

Played on their fear of refugees

Precisely. I was just reading about nationalism in modern europe today. That would probably be enough to stir the pot into the favor of those parties, and increase the power of those parties that are in power. Scary thought

not so scary as it makes sense.

[Duhon]

i encourage the EU to send a strongly worded letter to Edrogan.

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see

[Rojava Free State]

Precisely. I was just reading about nationalism in modern europe today. That would probably be enough to stir the pot into the favor of those parties, and increase the power of those parties that are in power. Scary thought

not so scary as it makes sense.

I'd rather not have a bunch of reactionary loonies running my country. Already got one running mine unfortunately

[Cyrothica]

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.

Its a neat thing called priorities.

For a liberal you're pretty pro-war. Not picking on you but like.. Why?

[Rojava Free State]

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

As I said, I wonder if erdogan would still want to attack if we said something like, I don't know, "you shoot one of our people and we're gonna nuclear bomb your capital city with your ass in it." I have a feeling the turks aren't nationalistic and extreme enough to take the risk.

Its a neat thing called priorities.

That moment when the kurds are somehow more dangerous than ISIS. Loben if you support Turkey and Turkey is supporting ISIS, you kinda support ISIS too. If you dont, I don't know why you would like turkey

[Rojava Free State]

Its a neat thing called priorities.

For a liberal you're pretty pro-war. Not picking on you but like.. Why?

Me or loben?

[Napkizemlja]

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

You mean just the two that it's involved in? One of which isn't involving the deployment of combat personnel, rather just advisers?

[Internationalist Bastard]

He's threatened to release millions of refugees into Europe apparently. Smart really

if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see

As I've said, neo-nazis are already on the rise. I don't wanna push them

[Duhon]

if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see

As I've said, neo-nazis are already on the rise. I don't wanna push them

fuck them and save millions

[Rojava Free State]

Oh you mean that country that was arming jihadists and giving medical care to ISIS fighters? Yeah I think it's time that we kick them out of NATO, or even better we dissolve NATO because it's gotten to expansive and is entangled in too many conflicts.

You mean just the two that it's involved in? One of which isn't involving the deployment of combat personnel, rather just advisers?

NATO is pushing up against Russia and has also become entangled in a middle east conflict that pits US backed kurds against the Turkish sharia state. That's two too many

[Napkizemlja]

You mean just the two that it's involved in? One of which isn't involving the deployment of combat personnel, rather just advisers?

NATO is pushing up against Russia and has also become entangled in a middle east conflict that pits US backed kurds against the Turkish sharia state. That's two too many

Turkey isn't a sharia state lmao. It's very, very secular.

I thought you didn't want to abandon the Kurds though? That's exactly what pulling NATO out or disbanding it would do. I as well also wish to shove European collective security down the shitter; I'm sure it would end well.

[Internationalist Bastard]

As I've said, neo-nazis are already on the rise. I don't wanna push them

fuck them and save millions

I've yet to see fascists save anything

[Duhon]

if i were the eu it really should
people's safety trumps every other consideration and redouble its commitment to human rights, plus it'd deprive erdogan of one way to blackmail the eu
if there are actual terrorists among them they can always be apprehended and jailed
there is barely any drawback that i can see

the obvious downside is they cost millions to deal with, create political tension, and they're hard to identify since they rarely carry ID.

all expected
not reason enough to save lives
the logistics might be a nightmare, but better that than be geopolitical pawns

[SD_Film Artists]

NATO is pushing up against Russia and has also become entangled in a middle east conflict that pits US backed kurds against the Turkish sharia state. That's two too many

Turkey isn't a sharia state lmao. It's very, very secular.

Though Erdogan is trying his best to make it less secular, going against Ataturk while pretending to respect his legacy at the same time.