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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:31 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Wrong. You are thinking of the West. East Germany was far more strict about nazis being barred from re-entering public life.


On the other hand, Eastern Germany's idea of self-reflecting about the role German society and culture had played in making Nazism possible was to say that the entire population of the GDR had always been proper Communists from day one and everything the Nazis had been and done was stricty the business of Western Germany and its capitalist allies. Any sociopolitical analysis of how Nazi Germany (and other fascist regimes) had worked other than "It's all the capitalists' fault" was discouraged, not least because of the unwelcomed, let's say, resemblance to how their own state worked.

Which is one of the reasons why Neo-Nazism is more widespread in Eastern Germany today than it is in the West.

Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:31 am

North German Realm wrote:
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Fun fact, Syria was a popular destination for Nazi fugitives after 1945.

Which is pretty ironic, given it was a French Mandate ruled by the only regime that even remotely hated Germans as much as the Soviet Union.


People like Alois Brunner moved in just as the French had left, and were more or less welcomed with open arms by the new Syrian state.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:33 am

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North German Realm wrote:Which is pretty ironic, given it was a French Mandate ruled by the only regime that even remotely hated Germans as much as the Soviet Union.


People like Alois Brunner moved in just as the French had left, and were more or less welcomed with open arms by the new Syrian state.


The BND of the early Bonn Republic was actively involved in Syria until they were recalled. I need to dig up the corresponding sauce though.

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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:35 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
On the other hand, Eastern Germany's idea of self-reflecting about the role German society and culture had played in making Nazism possible was to say that the entire population of the GDR had always been proper Communists from day one and everything the Nazis had been and done was stricty the business of Western Germany and its capitalist allies. Any sociopolitical analysis of how Nazi Germany (and other fascist regimes) had worked other than "It's all the capitalists' fault" was discouraged, not least because of the unwelcomed, let's say, resemblance to how their own state worked.

Which is one of the reasons why Neo-Nazism is more widespread in Eastern Germany today than it is in the West.

Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.


You may have noted that I said "one of the".
And the Eastern Germany = more Far Right thing is not connected to Merkel's policies at all. It first gained notoriety in 1992 with the Rostock-Lichtenhagen riots.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:40 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.


You may have noted that I said "one of the".

I did, yes.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:43 am

Baltenstein wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.


You may have noted that I said "one of the".
And the Eastern Germany = more Far Right thing is not connected to Merkel's policies at all. It first gained notoriety in 1992 with the Rostock-Lichtenhagen riots.


To be fair the shooter seems to be more inspired by the National Socialist International that has been spreading across the Internets rather than a local thing. It could have happened as well in West Germany. Or New Zealand.

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Postby Lanoraie II » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:48 am

That title is incorrect. No synagogue was shot up, two non-Jewish people were killed near one.
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Postby Page » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:54 am

Lanoraie II wrote:That title is incorrect. No synagogue was shot up, two non-Jewish people were killed near one.


The shooter intended to go into the synagogue and shoot Jews, he was unable to gain entry so he killed nearby people.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:19 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
On the other hand, Eastern Germany's idea of self-reflecting about the role German society and culture had played in making Nazism possible was to say that the entire population of the GDR had always been proper Communists from day one and everything the Nazis had been and done was stricty the business of Western Germany and its capitalist allies. Any sociopolitical analysis of how Nazi Germany (and other fascist regimes) had worked other than "It's all the capitalists' fault" was discouraged, not least because of the unwelcomed, let's say, resemblance to how their own state worked.

Which is one of the reasons why Neo-Nazism is more widespread in Eastern Germany today than it is in the West.

Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.


I'm starting to get tired of this blame the left trope. Just because one side is a bunch of assholes doesn't mean everyone else can react with equal degeneracy. I hate white supremacism, and yet you don't see me killing white people. I know how to react in a moderate and intelligent way unlike a bad handful of people in east Germany who think being a damn Nazi is a good thing
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:47 am

Neo-nazis are complete losers, none can ever compete with how pathetic those people are.

This terrorist armed himself to the teeth but couldn't break open the synagogue's door. So he resorted to killing random people instead. In the end he threw his life away and killed many innocent people for no reason whatsoever!

How many years and examples like this one do we have to go through to universally throw this vile ideology in the trash can?

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Postby Neko-koku » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:04 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Neo-nazis are complete losers, none can ever compete with how pathetic those people are.

This terrorist armed himself to the teeth but couldn't break open the synagogue's door. So he resorted to killing random people instead. In the end he threw his life away and killed many innocent people for no reason whatsoever!

How many years and examples like this one do we have to go through to universally throw this vile ideology in the trash can?


Zhang Xianzhong at work. Zhang Xianzhongs will always find a reason to kill people because they are Zhang Xianzhongs.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:29 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Or it could be the general dissatisfaction with the left amongst East German millennials.

Or it could be that the southern areas of former East Germany have been more affected by Merkel's policies.

Or it could be that the poor economic prospects for people are pushing them towards the far right.

Or it could be just a rubberband reaction after the far right was so heavily suppressed for so long.

Or...

Or...

etc.


I'm starting to get tired of this blame the left trope. Just because one side is a bunch of assholes doesn't mean everyone else can react with equal degeneracy. I hate white supremacism, and yet you don't see me killing white people. I know how to react in a moderate and intelligent way unlike a bad handful of people in east Germany who think being a damn Nazi is a good thing

It's this ridiculous false dichotomy that's pervading the world because apparently, nuance is dead.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:39 am

Neko-koku wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Neo-nazis are complete losers, none can ever compete with how pathetic those people are.

This terrorist armed himself to the teeth but couldn't break open the synagogue's door. So he resorted to killing random people instead. In the end he threw his life away and killed many innocent people for no reason whatsoever!

How many years and examples like this one do we have to go through to universally throw this vile ideology in the trash can?


Zhang Xianzhong at work. Zhang Xianzhongs will always find a reason to kill people because they are Zhang Xianzhongs.

Nah dude, this guy isn't Zhang Xianzhong...
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:15 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
Zhang Xianzhong at work. Zhang Xianzhongs will always find a reason to kill people because they are Zhang Xianzhongs.

Nah dude, this guy isn't Zhang Xianzhong...

He's trying to spread a neologism he invented in hopes he'll be able to sell Zhang Xianzhong merchandise on the internet.
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Postby Satuga » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:18 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Neo-nazis are complete losers, none can ever compete with how pathetic those people are.

This terrorist armed himself to the teeth but couldn't break open the synagogue's door. So he resorted to killing random people instead. In the end he threw his life away and killed many innocent people for no reason whatsoever!

How many years and examples like this one do we have to go through to universally throw this vile ideology in the trash can?


I don't know the cartel can get equally as fucked in my books, (NSFL coming up so if you're not good with extrememly violent shit you should prob not open the spoiler.)
I mean not long ago I watched a video of 2 cartel members capturing 2 police officer, they killed the first one and then literally SKINNED the second one when they were still alive, I'm not usually queasy but that was too much for me to handle, and from the comments I know that they continued and eventually took the 2nd guys heart out. Like seriously how the fuck can you skin someone alive? I don't care how fucked you are in the head doing something like that should be too far for even a low life degenerate criminal.

So yeah cartel is pretty far up there for me.
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