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Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:46 pm**

Also there is a video that I will not link and while I know this tragic, but I gotta say it was pretty funny up until he, you know, shot someone.
Guy is a fucking bungler, he spends a bunch of time idling outside because the doors are locked and he didn't plan for locked doors.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:53 pm**

Satuga wrote:Don't lynch me for this, but personally I think it might be a Muslim.

Nakena wrote:And here we go:

Germany synagogue shooting: Suspect 'broadcast attack livestream on Twitch' and ranted about Holocaust, Jews and immigration

The man accused of attacking a synagogue in Germany broadcast his rampage on the Twitch live-streaming video platform.

Speaking in English, the man called himself "anon" and said he was a Holocaust denier.

“Feminism is the cause of declining birth rates in the West, which acts as a scapegoat for mass immigration, and the root of all these problems is the Jew,” he continued, while filming himself in a car before starting the attack.

The footage was verified by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) at King's College London after being shared online.

Police said at least two people had been killed in Halle - outside the synagogue and at a nearby kebab shop - and a separate shooting was reported in a nearby town later on Wednesday.

Witnesses reported the gunman was wearing a helmet mounted with a camera and military-style clothing.

The footage, which has since been removed from the Twitch website - which focuses on video game streaming - appeared to be filmed by a head-mounted camera and showed the shooting from the attacker’s perspective

A similar broadcast was made by the Christchurch shooter, who used Facebook Live, and posted a “manifesto” espousing a theory that white people are being eradicated from Western nations on the 8chan image board.

The attack inspired copycat terrorists around the world, including in the UK, Norway and the American cities of El Paso and Poway - where a synagogue was attacked.

On the 4chan website, some posters were comparing the Halle shooter to “Saint [Brenton] Tarrant”, while another wrote: “Kill society, one lone gunman at a time. F***, I’m lovin it.”

Others ridiculed the shooter, who called himself a “loser” repeatedly in the video, for failing to kill more victims.

Sauce: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 49381.html

Every time

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:01 pm**

So what now? Are we going to get armed guards outside synagogues?

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:04 pm**

Pretty Much God wrote:Does anyone know how the gunman came across a GRENADE?

Honestly if you know where you look you can buy pretty much anything.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:12 pm**

I have seen the livestream and can confirm it is a white ethnic German fellow. He uses a very poorly 3D printed gun too, as well as being a bungler, as Kubra said.
I'd post images here, even SFW and idle ones, but that would likely be in breach of ToS or just in bad taste.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:14 pm**

The Republic of Fore wrote:So what now? Are we going to get armed guards outside synagogues?

It's already a thing at my synagogue.

Drongonia wrote:Or they could just go to Israel...

My family hasn't lived in Israel for over 2000 years. Get bent.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:15 pm**

Also, gun control can't really target his guns. The weapons he used are fairly (and in the case of the slamfire shotgun, incredibly) simple to fabricate with a few simple machine tools. This is where you queue the bullet control joke.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:17 pm**

Prydania wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:So what now? Are we going to get armed guards outside synagogues?

It's already a thing at my synagogue.

Drongonia wrote:Or they could just go to Israel...

My family hasn't lived in Israel for over 2000 years. Get bent.

I just hope that stupid things like this will never deter you from going to the synagogue :hug:

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:17 pm**

Prydania wrote:My family hasn't lived in Israel for over 2000 years. Get bent.

I only said that on the back of the previous comment about the Israeli Defence Force guarding synagogues in other countries.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:18 pm**

Samudera Darussalam wrote:I just hope that stupid things like this will never deter you from going to the synagogue

It was disheartening to see but I didn't let it stop me. Thank you

Drongonia wrote:I only said that on the back of the previous comment about the Israeli Defence Force guarding synagogues in other countries.

That's obviously dumb. Local police forces exist for a reason. And despite what you said here...

Drongonia wrote:If a single group attracts trouble everywhere they go as you say, then why should it be up to those individual governments to secure their safety (unless they are citizens, of course)?

...most Jews are citizens of their home countries. I was born and raised in Canada. And I'm in the US legally on a work visa.
And also...we don't invite trouble, despite what far right echo chambers would tell you. Conspiracy theories that scapegoat a minority group =/= truth.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:23 pm**

Risottia wrote:From non-shitty sources:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/ha ... e-100.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482
https://www.euronews.com/2019/10/09/two ... t-shooting

"A witness told German n-tv news that a gunman in camouflage opened fire with an assault rifle on a Turkish kebab shop."
I think there's a bit of a difference between "shooting up a synagogue" and "opening fire on a kebab shop that's near a synagogue".

Also, OP, what's YOUR opinion?

When REMOVE KEBAB gets taken a little too far.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:24 pm**

Kubra wrote:Also, gun control can't really target his guns. The weapons he used are fairly (and in the case of the slamfire shotgun, incredibly) simple to fabricate with a few simple machine tools. This is where you queue the bullet control joke.

Strange, that's not the rhetoric we hear in the states. According to certain politicians we just have to ban the big bad assault rifles and our gun crime problems will magically disappear.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:37 pm**

The Republic of Fore wrote:
Kubra wrote:Also, gun control can't really target his guns. The weapons he used are fairly (and in the case of the slamfire shotgun, incredibly) simple to fabricate with a few simple machine tools. This is where you queue the bullet control joke.

Strange, that's not the rhetoric we hear in the states. According to certain politicians we just have to ban the big bad assault rifles and our gun crime problems will magically disappear.

Well to be fair this incident is probably a pretty good example of gun control working, because dude just could not get his shoddy weapons and ammo to work. Dude failed a kill a guy because of (probably) his crappy handloads, and when you're failing to fire with a slam fire that's the indication one should press it to ones head then cry uncontrollably when it again fails to fire.

If this idiot had a real gun he may have shot down the doors of the synagogue, instead of plinking at it with black powder and birdshot.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:38 pm**

The Republic of Fore wrote:
Kubra wrote:Also, gun control can't really target his guns. The weapons he used are fairly (and in the case of the slamfire shotgun, incredibly) simple to fabricate with a few simple machine tools. This is where you queue the bullet control joke.

Strange, that's not the rhetoric we hear in the states. According to certain politicians we just have to ban the big bad assault rifles and our gun crime problems will magically disappear.

Hence why I want a Designated Survivor-eqse disaster (JK)

But to be honest,U.S politicians are stupid and not understanding.

We need to Decrease gun regulations to prevent crime.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:00 pm**

people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:08 pm**

Arumdaum wrote:people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

Always nicer if it is "one of them" instead of "one of us".
Happily, people can now quickly divert attention to the upcoming genocide of the Kurds and ignore this whiteboy.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:14 pm**

The Alma Mater wrote:Always nicer if it is "one of them" instead of "one of us".

Well, I can't really bring myself to consider a Nazi "one of us".

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:19 pm**

Arumdaum wrote:people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:21 pm**

North German Realm wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

Really? Because I don't find any of that unexpected at all.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:27 pm**

Num Vent wrote:Germans are inherently a fascistoid nation. They comiteed already a genocide and should be checked that a another Holocaust doesnt appear

Well, then we must also check (and I'm restricting the thing to genocides by broadest consensus):
Cambodia
Turkey
Rwanda
Croatia
Pakistan
France
Brazil
Great Britain
The Holy See
both Chinas
Italy
Russia and all former Soviet republics
Indonesia
Poland
Somalia
Japan
America
Australia
Spain
Myanmar
Belgium
Bangladesh
Argentina
Guatemala
Burundi
Chile
...

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:29 pm**

North German Realm wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

I've been not white long enough (my entire life) for it to be what comes to mind first lol

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:31 pm**

Arumdaum wrote:
North German Realm wrote:It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

I've been not white long enough (my entire life) for it to be what comes to mind first lol

I mean, I'm not white either, but when I hear "There's been a shooting in a Synagogue", a Nazi live-streaming himself trying to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is still not the first thing that comes to my mind.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:31 pm**

A holocaust denying, anti-feminist neo-nazi. The forces of evil are coalescing.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:33 pm**

North German Realm wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:people in this thread really wanted the shooter to be a muslim lol

It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

Well, when you consider that he shot up a Döner café, Nazis do come to mind first. Especially in Sachsen-Anhalt, where AfD got a 19.6% of the Zweitstimmen.

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:34 pm**

Risottia wrote:
North German Realm wrote:It's not that we wanted, but that it was more likely for it to be a Muslim than a freaking Nazi (and you must admit, a Nazi live-streaming his being humiliated while he tries to shoot up a Synagogue with handmade weapons is not what comes to mind first.)

Well, when you consider that he shot up a Döner café, Nazis do come to mind first. Especially in Sachsen-Anhalt, where AfD got a 19.6% of the Zweitstimmen.

Fair enough

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