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Postby North German Realm » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:56 am

The New California Republic wrote:
North German Realm wrote:That was mostly the Bonn Republic though.

Exactly. East Germany on the other hand was quite thorough in purging the nazis from public life.

I think the whole Clean Wehrmacht myth they started to integrate the nazis back into the military organization had something to do with that.
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North German Realm wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. East Germany on the other hand was quite thorough in purging the nazis from public life.

I think the whole Clean Wehrmacht myth they started to integrate the nazis back into the military organization had something to do with that.

The fact that East Germany was under Soviet direct rule for many years after the war ended also helped with the purge of nazis from public life. I've been in former KGB prisons across East Germany, and have seen myself from the records that they were very serious about seeking them out and making sure known nazis couldn't get into positions of influence ever again.
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Gormwood wrote:Some asshole took "Remove Kebab" quite literally I see.


Not the first one. The NZ shooter was playing the "remove kebab" song while driving to the mosque.

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Nach der Tat tauchte ein Dokument im Internet auf, bei dem es sich nach Angaben einer Expertin um eine Erklärung des Angreifers zu handeln scheint. Das PDF-Dokument zeige Bilder von Waffen und enthalte einen Verweis auf das Live-Video, das von der Tat verbreitet worden sei, schrieb Rita Katz, Leiterin der auf die Beobachtung von Extremisten spezialisierten Site Intelligence Group, auf Twitter. In dem Text wird laut Katz das Ziel genannt, "so viele Anti-Weiße zu töten wie möglich, vorzugsweise Juden". Das Dokument sei anscheinend am 1. Oktober angelegt worden und gebe Hinweise darauf, wie viel Planung und Vorbereitung der Täter in die Attacke gesteckt habe. Ob es tatsächlich von dem mutmaßlichen Täter stammt, ist bislang unklar. Die Ermittler scheinen aber das Dokument für authentisch zu halten, bestätigten Sicherheitskreise dem ZDF. Demnach seien der Sprengstoff und die Bomben einer Anleitung aus dem Netz nachgebaut. Das ganze Manifest lese sich wie ein Computerspiel, es habe viele Memes und Anspielungen.


Umm... I can't believe somebody would put so much planning into this crime!
Not only does he say that "the HOLOCAUST never happened", he wants all Jews dead? What kind of double-think bullshit is that?
I don't think Germany's gun control laws would have prevented this crime, because he had a pistol that met legal requirements, then he created a long rifle and explosives. That much is fairly legal, it's just his use of these weapons that obviously was illegal. I'm very glad that he didn't make it into the synagogue.
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They find the perpetrator yet?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:54 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:They find the perpetrator yet?

He was shot and arrested very shortly after he did it.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:57 am

The New California Republic wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:They find the perpetrator yet?

He was shot and arrested very shortly after he did it.

Shot? Survived I take it?
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Arstotzka 1982 wrote:Das ganze Manifest lese sich wie ein Computerspiel, es habe viele Memes und Anspielungen.

Oh for fuck's sake, it really is one of those again.
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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He was shot and arrested very shortly after he did it.

Shot? Survived I take it?

One can't arrest a corpse.
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Arstotzka 1982 wrote:
Nach der Tat tauchte ein Dokument im Internet auf, bei dem es sich nach Angaben einer Expertin um eine Erklärung des Angreifers zu handeln scheint. Das PDF-Dokument zeige Bilder von Waffen und enthalte einen Verweis auf das Live-Video, das von der Tat verbreitet worden sei, schrieb Rita Katz, Leiterin der auf die Beobachtung von Extremisten spezialisierten Site Intelligence Group, auf Twitter. In dem Text wird laut Katz das Ziel genannt, "so viele Anti-Weiße zu töten wie möglich, vorzugsweise Juden". Das Dokument sei anscheinend am 1. Oktober angelegt worden und gebe Hinweise darauf, wie viel Planung und Vorbereitung der Täter in die Attacke gesteckt habe. Ob es tatsächlich von dem mutmaßlichen Täter stammt, ist bislang unklar. Die Ermittler scheinen aber das Dokument für authentisch zu halten, bestätigten Sicherheitskreise dem ZDF. Demnach seien der Sprengstoff und die Bomben einer Anleitung aus dem Netz nachgebaut. Das ganze Manifest lese sich wie ein Computerspiel, es habe viele Memes und Anspielungen.


Umm... I can't believe somebody would put so much planning into this crime!
Not only does he say that "the HOLOCAUST never happened", he wants all Jews dead? What kind of double-think bullshit is that?
I don't think Germany's gun control laws would have prevented this crime, because he had a pistol that met legal requirements, then he created a long rifle and explosives. That much is fairly legal, it's just his use of these weapons that obviously was illegal. I'm very glad that he didn't make it into the synagogue.


I can't read German. I take it that this is a quote from the shooter's manifesto?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:01 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He was shot and arrested very shortly after he did it.

Shot? Survived I take it?

They would hardly have arrested him if he'd died.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 am

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Arstotzka 1982 wrote:
Umm... I can't believe somebody would put so much planning into this crime!
Not only does he say that "the HOLOCAUST never happened", he wants all Jews dead? What kind of double-think bullshit is that?
I don't think Germany's gun control laws would have prevented this crime, because he had a pistol that met legal requirements, then he created a long rifle and explosives. That much is fairly legal, it's just his use of these weapons that obviously was illegal. I'm very glad that he didn't make it into the synagogue.


I can't read German. I take it that this is a quote from the shooter's manifesto?

No, it's an extract from a news report (a link to it would be appreciated though...), basically saying, the part I quoted in my reply above, that there were references to video game stuff and memes etc in his so called manifesto.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:03 am

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Xuloqoia wrote:
I can't read German. I take it that this is a quote from the shooter's manifesto?

No, it's an extract from a news report (a link to it would be appreciated though...), basically saying, the part I quoted in my reply above, that there were references to video game stuff and memes etc in his so called manifesto.

I knew it! It's dem vidja games!
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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No, it's an extract from a news report (a link to it would be appreciated though...), basically saying, the part I quoted in my reply above, that there were references to video game stuff and memes etc in his so called manifesto.

I knew it! It's dem vidja games!

Actually now I read it again it says it (the manifesto) reads like a video game. Whatever that means.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:07 am

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I knew it! It's dem vidja games!

Actually now I read it again it says it (the manifesto) reads like a video game. Whatever that means.

One of those visual novels, presumably.
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Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Actually now I read it again it says it (the manifesto) reads like a video game. Whatever that means.

One of those visual novels, presumably.


Doki Doki Terror Attack Club?
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Xuloqoia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:One of those visual novels, presumably.


Doki Doki Terror Attack Club?

I was thinking Mass Killer In A Bind.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:07 am

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Arstotzka 1982 wrote:Das ganze Manifest lese sich wie ein Computerspiel, es habe viele Memes und Anspielungen.

Oh for fuck's sake, it really is one of those again.


Yes it is. It's a Christchurch copycat attack.

Xuloqoia wrote:I can't read German. I take it that this is a quote from the shooter's manifesto?


There are also plenty of english language sources around.

The New California Republic wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I knew it! It's dem vidja games!

Actually now I read it again it says it (the manifesto) reads like a video game. Whatever that means.


Actually Angry Goy is more likely.
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employing nazis without apology instead of purging them as thoroughly and unapologetically as one can does not constitute what i would call "hammered home"

Wrong. You are thinking of the West. East Germany was far more strict about nazis being barred from re-entering public life.


On the other hand, Eastern Germany's idea of self-reflecting about the role German society and culture had played in making Nazism possible was to say that the entire population of the GDR had always been proper Communists from day one and everything the Nazis had been and done was stricty the business of Western Germany and its capitalist allies. Any sociopolitical analysis of how Nazi Germany (and other fascist regimes) had worked other than "It's all the capitalists' fault" was discouraged, not least because of the unwelcomed, let's say, resemblance to how their own state worked.

Which is one of the reasons why Neo-Nazism is more widespread in Eastern Germany today than it is in the West.
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Arstotzka 1982 wrote:
Nach der Tat tauchte ein Dokument im Internet auf, bei dem es sich nach Angaben einer Expertin um eine Erklärung des Angreifers zu handeln scheint. Das PDF-Dokument zeige Bilder von Waffen und enthalte einen Verweis auf das Live-Video, das von der Tat verbreitet worden sei, schrieb Rita Katz, Leiterin der auf die Beobachtung von Extremisten spezialisierten Site Intelligence Group, auf Twitter. In dem Text wird laut Katz das Ziel genannt, "so viele Anti-Weiße zu töten wie möglich, vorzugsweise Juden". Das Dokument sei anscheinend am 1. Oktober angelegt worden und gebe Hinweise darauf, wie viel Planung und Vorbereitung der Täter in die Attacke gesteckt habe. Ob es tatsächlich von dem mutmaßlichen Täter stammt, ist bislang unklar. Die Ermittler scheinen aber das Dokument für authentisch zu halten, bestätigten Sicherheitskreise dem ZDF. Demnach seien der Sprengstoff und die Bomben einer Anleitung aus dem Netz nachgebaut. Das ganze Manifest lese sich wie ein Computerspiel, es habe viele Memes und Anspielungen.


Umm... I can't believe somebody would put so much planning into this crime!
Not only does he say that "the HOLOCAUST never happened", he wants all Jews dead? What kind of double-think bullshit is that?


It's a well-known staple of modern anti-semitism that

1.) the Holocaust never happened
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2.) we must do it again.
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What would happen if we parachuted all the Nazis into ISIS territories in Syria? Would it be like matter colliding with antimatter?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 am

Massacrey wrote:What would happen if we parachuted all the Nazis into ISIS territories in Syria? Would it be like matter colliding with antimatter?

It'd be like that bit in Braveheart where the Irish charge the Scots and then when they meet they all shake hands. Except evil.
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:26 am

Massacrey wrote:What would happen if we parachuted all the Nazis into ISIS territories in Syria? Would it be like matter colliding with antimatter?


Fun fact, Syria was a popular destination for Nazi fugitives after 1945.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:28 am

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Massacrey wrote:What would happen if we parachuted all the Nazis into ISIS territories in Syria? Would it be like matter colliding with antimatter?


Fun fact, Syria was a popular destination for Nazi fugitives after 1945.

Which is pretty ironic, given it was a French Mandate ruled by the only regime that even remotely hated Germans as much as the Soviet Union.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:28 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Massacrey wrote:What would happen if we parachuted all the Nazis into ISIS territories in Syria? Would it be like matter colliding with antimatter?


Fun fact, Syria was a popular destination for Nazi fugitives after 1945.


They helped building up the early Syrian Military and Security Service.

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