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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
56
42%
2. Life in prison but in gen pop
31
23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
21
16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
24
18%
 
Total votes : 132

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:24 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m not exactly an unfriendly person. I’m just terrible to argue against.


What I mean is that labelling yourself as a "Narcissistic Nihilist" is bad PR, for lack of a better term.

Considering how often I have to explain it anyway, I don’t particularly care. It’s neutral PR.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby Xuloqoia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:25 pm

Nakena wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
What I mean is that labelling yourself as a "Narcissistic Nihilist" is bad PR, for lack of a better term.


I am much worse at times. But I avoid labelizations.


You admit to religious practices that would be considered in the eyes of most folks to be "devil-worship". Is that what you mean by "I am much worse at times"?
I may return for somewhat longer than I was initially expecting. Why am I here? No idea whatsoever. I really ought to find some way out of this place.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:26 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
What do you mean?


I think the Wasatch is trying to make small talk.


oh
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:26 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
Still, the edge that you sometimes exhibit doesn't help your case. For example, describing your personal philosophy as "Nihilistic Narcissism" comes across as Bismuth-tier edginess. Just call yourself an egoist and be done with it.

Really don’t care how I come across. It’s the Internet. My goal is not to make friends.


meh
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Postby Xuloqoia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:26 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
What I mean is that labelling yourself as a "Narcissistic Nihilist" is bad PR, for lack of a better term.

Considering how often I have to explain it anyway, I don’t particularly care. It’s neutral PR.


Well if you want better PR, you need to work on your branding, is all I'm getting at.
I may return for somewhat longer than I was initially expecting. Why am I here? No idea whatsoever. I really ought to find some way out of this place.

Also, the NS stats don't reflect my RL views, just to clarify.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:27 pm

Lockheeb Martin wrote:
Kowani wrote:I am here to learn.

It’s like seeing an egg fall from a plane, and then claiming since it hasn’t hit the ground yet, it’ll be fine. That’s what you’re doing.


And you can continue being proud of your failure.


No, I'm doing nothing of the sort. Unless you believe refugee resettlement genocide. If you do, then as I said last night, you are brave admitting your political affiliations here.
The plan’s more than just refugee resettlement, but you can keep your head in the sand.
I look forward to your apology or reminding you of this when the Turks don't exterminate the Kurds.

Yeah, that’s not how predictions work.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:27 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Often secular or de facto secular race realists and trads shouldn't be lumped into "rightists".


Would you say trads are the true rightists, then?

Nope. The word "rightist" is hopelessly ill-defined that it has no inherent meaning any more.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:28 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Right.


See my edit.

Compare Portland and Baltimore. Similar populations. Both run by Democrats. Similar geographies (Baltimore might even be better off in this regard). Why is one prosperous and the other called Lagos on the Chesapeake?


Indeed there are massive cultural differences between the various regions of the United States. Which I why I argue that the US might easily fall apart just like the Soviet Union or Yugoslavia did.

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:30 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I am much worse at times. But I avoid labelizations.


You admit to religious practices that would be considered in the eyes of most folks to be "devil-worship". Is that what you mean by "I am much worse at times"?


Occult teachings to be exactly. Amongst other things, such as my perspective and take on a many matters.

Also my autism and ADD can push me real hard sometimes, i can keep it barely together them. But thats just sometimes.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
See my edit.

Compare Portland and Baltimore. Similar populations. Both run by Democrats. Similar geographies (Baltimore might even be better off in this regard). Why is one prosperous and the other called Lagos on the Chesapeake?


Indeed there are massive cultural differences between the various regions of the United States. Which I why I argue that the US might easily fall apart just like the Soviet Union or Yugoslavia did.


What is the cause of those cultural differences? Geography? Is there something innate to the Chesapeake area that makes them utter failures when compared to the Willamette Valley?
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Postby The Wasatch » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Wasatch wrote:How are your days going, by the way?


What do you mean?

Just, how are you folks? I didn't ask earlier.
Pretty much Lawful Neutral. Maybe Lawful Good.

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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I don't oppose libertarian-ism because of being a violent or an "asshat". I oppose libertarianism because I want a just and orderly society.


You want to control others. Haha.


There are plenty of evil people out there who need to be kept under control.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:33 pm

The Wasatch wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
What do you mean?

Just, how are you folks? I didn't ask earlier.


Oh i'm okay. How are you
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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:33 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:[
Indeed there are massive cultural differences between the various regions of the United States. Which I why I argue that the US might easily fall apart just like the Soviet Union or Yugoslavia did.


What is the cause of those cultural differences? Geography? Is there something innate to the Chesapeake area that makes them utter failures when compared to the Willamette Valley?


Geography, history, migration patterns...it is a complex mixture of factors.

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The Wasatch
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Postby The Wasatch » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:34 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Wasatch wrote:Just, how are you folks? I didn't ask earlier.


Oh i'm okay. How are you

I'm doing well, thank you! :)
Pretty much Lawful Neutral. Maybe Lawful Good.

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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:34 pm

The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..like at most 0.5% either way.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:35 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
You want to control others. Haha.


There are plenty of evil people out there who need to be kept under control.

And many people who don't need to be controlled, whom you want to oppress.

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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
There are plenty of evil people out there who need to be kept under control.

And many people who don't need to be controlled, whom you want to oppress.

Exactly.
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The Wasatch
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Postby The Wasatch » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pm

Neko-koku wrote:The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..

If they do, it is because of existing economic realities and perhaps institutionalized racism, but race is an unquantifiable and inobjective concept that has no scientific backing or place in reasoned conversation as anything other than a societal construct, if you are implying that they are somehow more intelligent or determined because of their ancestry and "race."
Pretty much Lawful Neutral. Maybe Lawful Good.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pm

Lockheeb Martin wrote:
Kowani wrote: The plan’s more than just refugee resettlement, but you can keep your head in the sand.

Yeah, that’s not how predictions work.


Sure it is. I'll remind you of that one time you were hilariously and hysterically wrong as a means of calling into question your judgement on the next issue you will inevitably be wrong about.

Spell out right what your fear is then. Is it hundreds of thousands of dead like Wallenberg or just the alt right-esque fear of refugees?

It’s a multifront war with long standing ethnic tensions and political explosiveness. The Turkish Army, which is not noted for professionalism, may have a sliiight incentive to not try overly hard to distinguish between fighters and civilians.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:37 pm

Neko-koku wrote:The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..like at most 0.5% either way.


Well, from what I understand, there are many mixed race people born in Hawaii, especially among those whose roots there go back many generations.
Also, I think Hawaii should secede from the US and restore its old monarchy. Does anyone here agree with me?

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Bear Stearns
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:38 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
What is the cause of those cultural differences? Geography? Is there something innate to the Chesapeake area that makes them utter failures when compared to the Willamette Valley?


Geography, history, migration patterns...it is a complex mixture of factors.


Okay...not sure how geography would matter all that much. Both cities are port cities and the climates aren't that different other than Baltimore being more humid.

History might explain it. Baltimore is an established colonial city and Portland grew up out of the frontier. But there are plenty of West Coast cities that are trash (Oakland, Stockton) and plenty of East Coast cities that are prosperous (Boston, DC). And there are plenty of nearby cities to Baltimore with similar geographies and histories (Philadelphia, Wilmington, Richmond) that are doing better than it.

Migration patterns...here I think you're on to something. Who migrated to Portland? Who migrated to Baltimore?
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:39 pm

The Wasatch wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..

If they do, it is because of existing economic realities and perhaps institutionalized racism, but race is an unquantifiable and inobjective concept that has no scientific backing or place in reasoned conversation as anything other than a societal construct, if you are implying that they are somehow more intelligent or determined because of their ancestry and "race."


If we talk about household income then this isn't even a question. Japanese folks have a lot more. It is the per capita number that is actually interesting..and of course it is not about muh waycism.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:39 pm

Neko-koku wrote:The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..like at most 0.5% either way.


Japanese Hawaiians are more established and came from a distinct social class back in Japan. I wonder how they compare to Japanese Americans generally.
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The Wasatch
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Postby The Wasatch » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:39 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:The most interesting topic about Hawaii is whether Japanese folks do better than white folks in terms of per capita income or vice versa. Different sources disagree but the difference is very minor..like at most 0.5% either way.


Well, from what I understand, there are many mixed race people born in Hawaii, especially among those whose roots there go back many generations.
Also, I think Hawaii should secede from the US and restore its old monarchy. Does anyone here agree with me?

I don't support monarchy, but they were unfairly annexed for the sake of American corporate interests. The history of Hawaii is intriguing. I don't believe that States can leave the United States without the consent of the rest of the Union, for better or worse.
Pretty much Lawful Neutral. Maybe Lawful Good.

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