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Cappuccina wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:limited collaboration with communists to destroy global capitalism then sort out the shape of what replaces it after

Y/N

Godless communists are no better than godless capitalists, no thanks.

The godless capitalists aren't plotting to rob me.

Nakena wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
Just wait until you're in the midst of one. You will likely get a major war in your lifetime.

What kind of war you expect?

Nuclear.

Northern Davincia wrote:

Nakena wrote:
What kind of war you expect?

Nuclear.

Don't worry Davincia. I, for one, have learned to love the Bomb.

Xuloqoia wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:Nuclear.

Don't worry Davincia. I, for one, have learned to love the Bomb.

As long as I get to be Mr. House, all will be well.

Northern Davincia wrote:

Xuloqoia wrote:
Don't worry Davincia. I, for one, have learned to love the Bomb.

As long as I get to be Mr. House, all will be well.

Didn't we already have a Fallout-esque post-apocalyptic hypothetical in an earlier iteration of the thread? I believe Hana was the one who wrote it. Sadly, I was not included.

Xuloqoia wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:As long as I get to be Mr. House, all will be well.

Didn't we already have a Fallout-esque post-apocalyptic hypothetical in an earlier iteration of the thread? I believe Hana was the one who wrote it. Sadly, I was not included.

You strike me as NCR material.

Senkaku wrote:

Napkizemlja wrote:This upcoming liberal utopia is so great that the suicide rate is climbing to get us there faster.

In any case, I'm going to bed, but in conclusion, this post was silly and the subsequent attempts to back it up have essentially consisted of profoundly incoherent resentful ramblings about societal problems that no one really seems to have any original ideas (or ideas, period) about with regards to causes or solutions, which makes me wonder why you'd even bother discussing them.

or, to put it more succinctly, the post was lazy and so were the followups.

OK boomer

Northern Davincia wrote:

Xuloqoia wrote:
Didn't we already have a Fallout-esque post-apocalyptic hypothetical in an earlier iteration of the thread? I believe Hana was the one who wrote it. Sadly, I was not included.

You strike me as NCR material.

Memes aside, let me see if I can find the post that Hana made.

UPDATE: I found it, but I can't quote it in the normal fashion. All credit goes to Hana:

If, post-apocalypse, RWDTers were to found political states similar to how Caesar created the Legion in New Vegas:

New New England: one of the few monarchical states who's founder did not make himself ruler. the throne instead occupied by a distant relation of the House of Windsor. The aesthetic is 19th century Victorian and the reconstructed Anglican Church is known for long beautiful services. The regency of the first prime minister, Old Tyrannia, is regarded as a golden age of culture.

Anarcho-Tsarist Ozarks: a voluntary association of primitive agrarian communes united under a single Tsar who rules in the name of Christ but does not act. The philosophy of a bearded man named Muscovite Nations is doctrine. The means of production are communally owned by the farmers who work the land, and technology is regarded as a tool of the Devil to enslave men's souls. Because of this stigmata against modernity, the farmers are often prey to raiders with more advanced weaponry, which lead to militant farmer defense leagues.

Fascist Virginia: a band of raiders broken and reformed into a totalistic militarist state under the dictatorship of one known as Oil Exporting Peoples. The aesthetic is a mixture of Confederate, Kaiserreich, and Roman. It despises weakness and enforces total discipline, with summary execution for those who are found guilty of breaching the rules. The number of conscripts who survive training are relatively low. It's currently at war with Maryland and its proxy state West Virginia, which Fascist Virginia wants to become a part of Virginia again.

Constitutional Legitimist Maryland: a state which claims to be the rightful heir of the United States of America and strictly enforces the constitution there. Lead by Conserative Morality, the Marylanders refer to anyone outside their territory as "filthy secessh" and shoot on sight unless you want to be an immigrant. There is a national civic religion which rewrites the Bible to worship America as an idea and the Founding Fathers as gods, with references to the Devil being replaced with the names of Civil War Confederate leaders and generals.

The Warrior Nuns of Louisiana: lead by Luminesa, these nuns terrify the South with motorcycles and yardsticks which they are not afraid to hit people with. Some say that those who are unfortunate are carried off by the nuns to a fate worse than death: Catholic boarding school.

Socdem Gang: a small regional state in northern Florida founded by three figures known as the New Founding Fathers (Genivaria, West Vale Confederacy, and Dumb Ideologies). The state has a small but active senate and follows a social democratic model with some syndicalist features built in, with a President who theoretically has near-absolute power.

Militarist League of Alabama-Georgia: formed by Washington Resistance Army and Fahran to protect people from the bands of warrior nuns abducting people, the Militarists are... fond of weaponry to put it mildly. The right to bear arms is the highest held right, and a social conservative regime is in place.

Senkaku wrote:

Napkizemlja wrote:This upcoming liberal utopia is so great that the suicide rate is climbing to get us there faster.

In any case, I'm going to bed, but in conclusion, this post was silly and the subsequent attempts to back it up have essentially consisted of profoundly incoherent resentful ramblings about societal problems that no one really seems to have any original ideas (or ideas, period) about with regards to causes or solutions, which makes me wonder why you'd even bother discussing them.

or, to put it more succinctly, the post was lazy and so were the followups.

It’s really not silly that suicide rates are rising. At any rate, the fact that he is not presenting an idea in his post does not make it invalid. What he’s saying is that despite our country having a lot of good things, our society is suffering greatly from a rising suicide rate, and ignoring it will not make the problem somehow go away. We discuss problems all the time without having solutions. If you have a solution that Nap doesn’t have, then maybe you should give it.

Senkaku wrote:

The East Marches II wrote:
The Querfront has been effective in a number of places.

so effective that capitalism's hegemony now spans the entire globe and is burrowing into every corner of human (and non-human) life

I don't know, the Querfront got big returns in Anatolia :^))))))

"4chan Trolls Popeyes: OPERATION FREE CHICKEN"
4chan is printing out fake coupons as a prank
This is gonna turn the Popeye's situation from a mere riot into World War III

Tornado Queendom wrote:"4chan Trolls Popeyes: OPERATION FREE CHICKEN"
4chan is printing out fake coupons as a prank
This is gonna turn the Popeye's situation from a mere riot into World War III

The sandwich isn't even worth going to war for. But of course here comes 4chan. If anyone knows how to stir panic it's them.

Luminesa wrote:

Tornado Queendom wrote:"4chan Trolls Popeyes: OPERATION FREE CHICKEN"
4chan is printing out fake coupons as a prank
This is gonna turn the Popeye's situation from a mere riot into World War III

The sandwich isn't even worth going to war for. But of course here comes 4chan. If anyone knows how to stir panic it's them.

I KNOW what 4chan's like, and I actually have an ability most NS users don't: think like a 4channer. I occasionally go on that site, but would personally advise others to put on as much safety gear as possible before entering 4chan (I'm talking about the safety gear they use for disease control and [historically] Plague Doctors).

Luminesa wrote:

Tornado Queendom wrote:"4chan Trolls Popeyes: OPERATION FREE CHICKEN"
4chan is printing out fake coupons as a prank
This is gonna turn the Popeye's situation from a mere riot into World War III

The sandwich isn't even worth going to war for. But of course here comes 4chan. If anyone knows how to stir panic it's them.

This is a slander. 4chan is a website of peace

The East Marches II wrote:

Luminesa wrote:The sandwich isn't even worth going to war for. But of course here comes 4chan. If anyone knows how to stir panic it's them.

This is a slander. 4chan is a website of peace

I know what it's like to be a 4channer, I've been on that site many times. I advise you, though: don't try anything you see on 4chan at home.

Cappuccina wrote:

Kowani wrote:Well, the only state approaching (and really reaching) Communism is Cuba. Which has been under economic war for a couple decades now. Not really a fair comparison.
But by the metric of the American Dream? Yeah, no. That died.

In what way is Cuba supposedly"reaching communism"? They're not much different than any other Leninist state of the past. Of course, not saying the economic warfare upon them is justified.

Small typo. Meant to say “not really reaching.”

Fahran wrote:

Kowani wrote:But by the metric of the American Dream? Yeah, no. That died.

How so?

You notice how the US’s social mobility is near non-existent?

Tornado Queendom wrote:

The East Marches II wrote:
This is a slander. 4chan is a website of peace

I know what it's like to be a 4channer, I've been on that site many times. I advise you, though: don't try anything you see on 4chan at home.

/biz/ is full of some hilariously fucked up get-rich-quick schemes.

Tornado Queendom wrote:

The East Marches II wrote:
This is a slander. 4chan is a website of peace

I know what it's like to be a 4channer, I've been on that site many times. I advise you, though: don't try anything you see on 4chan at home.

I wouldn't know the first thing about the site old boy. Best of luck to you while here!

Bear Stearns wrote:

Tornado Queendom wrote:I know what it's like to be a 4channer, I've been on that site many times. I advise you, though: don't try anything you see on 4chan at home.

/biz/ is full of some hilariously fucked up get-rich-quick schemes.

That's why I said it, but I'll say it again. If it's on 4chan, I don't recommend you to try it at home.

Kowani wrote:

Cappuccina wrote:In what way is Cuba supposedly"reaching communism"? They're not much different than any other Leninist state of the past. Of course, not saying the economic warfare upon them is justified.

Small typo. Meant to say “not really reaching.”

Whether or not this was what you wanted to mean is irrelevant as to what the actual words are.

Xuloqoia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Small typo. Meant to say “not really reaching.”

Whether or not this was what you wanted to mean is irrelevant as to what the actual words are.

That would be good if you understood the point of the original phrase.

Kowani wrote:

Xuloqoia wrote:
Whether or not this was what you wanted to mean is irrelevant as to what the actual words are.

That would be good if you understood the point of the original phrase.

... And you treat me like I'm the thread's resident humorless automaton. I would do a "/woosh" but that'd fail to capture the magnitude of this, if I'm to be completely honest.

Xuloqoia wrote:

Kowani wrote:That would be good if you understood the point of the original phrase.

... And you treat me like I'm the thread's resident humorless automaton. I would do a "/woosh" but that'd fail to capture the magnitude of this, if I'm to be completely honest.

No, I get very well what you were going for. It just wasn’t funny.

I've taken a liking to 80s Japanese city pop.

Who wants to do a key bump after work and hit the discotheque?

Northern Davincia wrote:

Cappuccina wrote:Godless communists are no better than godless capitalists, no thanks.

The godless capitalists aren't plotting to rob me.

Nakena wrote:
What kind of war you expect?

Nuclear.

Capitalists don't have to plot to rob you, they're already doing it.