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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
56
42%
2. Life in prison but in gen pop
31
23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
21
16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
24
18%
 
Total votes : 132

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:34 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Baha'i incorporates previous religious founders as its own prophets. I've known several Wiccans who unironically believe matriarchal prehistory pseudohistory and members of Japanese new religions who claim to be returns to purer forms of preexisting religions. The important thing for them is that they can establish some link with the past, even if relying on easily disproved historical or theological arguments.


Gotta admit while I've heard and read lots on newer Chinese religions I haven't heard much at all about them in Japan.


Most of them share much of the same religious language and concepts while being inspired by Christianity, Buddhism, Shinto, or Neo-Confucianism. They tend to be very health-based and emphasize the idea that being cheerful and grateful is an important part in solving the problems of your life.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:34 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:There's no reason to abide by the middle-ground on any major social issue at the moment. The progressives have destroyed any and all whiff of sanity on gun control. We shouldn't give them a single inch. They'll always take a mile. Oddly enough, looking at other threads, our left-wing colleagues seem content to abide disruption when they lose but howl when we engage in peaceful protests. One wonders if we need to abandon niceties and working within the system to reassert that which they have eroded at every turn. And, no, I'm not recommending violence here. I still oppose Antifa and Neo-Nazis. I'm recommending large-scale civil disobedience, non-compliance, and targeted protests of people and organizations that do questionable things. Essentially, embracing common and legal tactics employed by the Democrats in the US.

Embrace the accelerationistpill, fahran. We'll all take a trip to the range.


I'd be down a RWDT range day with Dio.

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Probably, but I can make an attempt.

You'll be back. We're like the history channel 2 AM timeslot- even if you don't post, you'll still record the documentaries about Hitler maybe being an alien in league with the Loch Ness monster.


This tbh, I escaped from Montengro and was teleported here.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:34 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:Just saying, this is why I think the criticism of democracy as "mob rule" is painfully accurate.

We're employing mass action to defend the Republic. If our political opponents respected the word and spirit of the law, it would not be necessary.


If y'all respected the rightful monarch in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with. : P
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:35 pm

Diopolis wrote:That's exactly what progressives do, didn't you see that article I posted a few pages ago? It's the non-progressives they try to keep from doing that.

We'll see how they react when everyone is compelled to get married at twenty five under threat of deportation to America's Sibera. Which'll probably be the coldest, most inhospitable corner of newly annexed Canada.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:35 pm

Fahran wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Field Marshal Fahran the political strategist.

Please, TEM, call me Mi General.


I had a very sensible chuckle. Well played indeed.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:36 pm

Salus Maior wrote:If y'all respected the rightful monarch in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with. : P

The only rightful monarchs are George Washington and Robert E. Lee. Give me stately Virginians.

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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:37 pm

Fahran wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Field Marshal Fahran the political strategist.

Please, TEM, call me Mi General.

Mi general, Fahran Pinochet
Usted es el nueva madre del hilo...
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:38 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Please, TEM, call me Mi General.

Mi general, Fahran Pinochet
Usted es el nueva madre del hilo...

makes me cri evrytiem
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:39 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Baha'i incorporates previous religious founders as its own prophets. I've known several Wiccans who unironically believe matriarchal prehistory pseudohistory and members of Japanese new religions who claim to be returns to purer forms of preexisting religions. The important thing for them is that they can establish some link with the past, even if relying on easily disproved historical or theological arguments.


Yes, but the problem with Baha'i doing that (as well as almost all universalist religions), is that it's not logically consistent. You can't claim all the prophets of world history were equally right, because nearly all of them (particularly Abrahamic prophets and figures) made explicit claims of exclusivity. Unless all the prophets were equally right, and also wrong about specific things which are inconvenient to the claim at the same time.

Yes, but that's also nonesense and lazy to claim that "oh we're just the pure version" when they've cut all traditional connections and have no sincere access to the original group they're identifying with.


I don't disagree, just stating my experience with their thought processes. Some of them tried to eat one of their own when Ronald Hutton wrote a book where he dismissed neopagan claims based on actual historical methodology.

To be fair, a lot of Japanese new religions have ties with Nippon Kaigi, so I don't think it can be said they're opposed to traditionalism.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:39 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Embrace the accelerationistpill, fahran. We'll all take a trip to the range.


I'd be down a RWDT range day with Dio.

If we're ever within a couple of counties of one another, perhaps.
Diopolis wrote:You'll be back. We're like the history channel 2 AM timeslot- even if you don't post, you'll still record the documentaries about Hitler maybe being an alien in league with the Loch Ness monster.


This tbh, I escaped from Montengro and was teleported here.

Hey, it's more accurate than OEP's alt history or the conspiracy theories my ex's dad talked me into unironically believing and then spreading online!
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:40 pm

Fahran wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:If y'all respected the rightful monarch in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with. : P

The only rightful monarchs are George Washington and Robert E. Lee. Give me stately Virginians.


George Washington was the only reasonable republican in my opinion.

The country as we are now, is exactly as he warned against. Looking at the Federalist papers also gives that same sense.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Mi general, Fahran Pinochet
Usted es el nueva madre del hilo...

makes me cri evrytiem


+1

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yes, but the problem with Baha'i doing that (as well as almost all universalist religions), is that it's not logically consistent. You can't claim all the prophets of world history were equally right, because nearly all of them (particularly Abrahamic prophets and figures) made explicit claims of exclusivity. Unless all the prophets were equally right, and also wrong about specific things which are inconvenient to the claim at the same time.

Yes, but that's also nonesense and lazy to claim that "oh we're just the pure version" when they've cut all traditional connections and have no sincere access to the original group they're identifying with.


I don't disagree, just stating my experience with their thought processes. Some of them tried to eat one of their own when Ronald Hutton wrote a book where he dismissed neopagan claims based on actual historical methodology.

To be fair, a lot of Japanese new religions have ties with Nippon Kaigi, so I don't think it can be said they're opposed to traditionalism.


I feel kind of bad for criticizing Baha'is so hard. So here's something positive.

They have nice architecture and gardens.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Novus America » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diopolis wrote:That's exactly what progressives do, didn't you see that article I posted a few pages ago? It's the non-progressives they try to keep from doing that.

We'll see how they react when everyone is compelled to get married at twenty five under threat of deportation to America's Sibera. Which'll probably be the coldest, most inhospitable corner of newly annexed Canada.


You are truly based and redpilled tonight. And it is awesome.

This is beautiful. Brings a tear to my eye. 8)
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:44 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diopolis wrote:That's exactly what progressives do, didn't you see that article I posted a few pages ago? It's the non-progressives they try to keep from doing that.

We'll see how they react when everyone is compelled to get married at twenty five under threat of deportation to America's Sibera. Which'll probably be the coldest, most inhospitable corner of newly annexed Canada.


You realize I'm just going to pirate a boat and set sail for Hokkaido, right?
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:47 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:You realize I'm just going to pirate a boat and set sail for Hokkaido, right?

Or you can always opt for a state-mandated husbando/waifu. And four children. And probably a dog or cat. Mandatory wholesomeness is in vogue, comrade.

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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:49 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Please, TEM, call me Mi General.

Mi general, Fahran Pinochet
Usted es el nueva madre del hilo...

You shall be tasked with ensuring that citizens observe religious rites and attend congregations. Any who refuse will be physically removed from America to the Super Happy Fun Box of Saskatchewan. I'd call it a gulag but I'm not a commie who hates freedom.

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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:58 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Mi general, Fahran Pinochet
Usted es el nueva madre del hilo...

You shall be tasked with ensuring that citizens observe religious rites and attend congregations. Any who refuse will be physically removed from America to the Super Happy Fun Box of Saskatchewan. I'd call it a gulag but I'm not a commie who hates freedom.

We refer to our labor camps as Angola in the US.
Yay! Do I get to make them live as Carthusians in Saskatchewan?
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:We refer to our labor camps as Angola in the US.
Yay! Do I get to make them live as Carthusians in Saskatchewan?

Do as you will. Do as G-d wills. :p

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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:02 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diopolis wrote:We refer to our labor camps as Angola in the US.
Yay! Do I get to make them live as Carthusians in Saskatchewan?

Do as you will. Do as G-d wills. :p

The irreligious shall be wakened at one AM to sing praises to the Lord. They shall meditate upon death while digging their own graves(not for immediate use) and will not be permitted to speak, except in worship, aside from four hours per week.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:03 pm

I'm betting ¥30 that Fahran becomes the Jewish Joan of Arc.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:05 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:I'm betting ¥30 that Fahran becomes the Jewish Joan of Arc.

How much is that in freedombucks?
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:06 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:I'm betting ¥30 that Fahran becomes the Jewish Joan of Arc.

We had Deborah and Judith before Joan of Arc was even born.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:07 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:I'm betting ¥30 that Fahran becomes the Jewish Joan of Arc.

How much is that in freedombucks?


About 5 cents.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Diopolis wrote:How much is that in freedombucks?


About 5 cents.

Aww. I was hoping it would be enough to buy a Dr. Pepper.
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