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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
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2. Life in prison but in gen pop
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3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
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4. Life in prison but in protective custody
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Postby Xuloqoia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:18 pm

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Camelone wrote:Is that from the George Washington shrine you were talking about earlier?


No, it's just something I wrote.


And that I’m using to add flavor to the culture of the Greater Pennsylvanian Hive (the faction inspired by my own views, or rather by an unflattering strawman of my views), one of the factions in post-Cataclysm North America. More specifically, it’s an excerpt from a primary school history textbook. It could go as such, perhaps:

The Kings of Old Columbia, known before the Cataclysm as the Founding Fathers, set down the sacred principles of good government based on the Proper Way of Collective Harmony for the people to follow. The deeds of George Washington are rightfully considered those of a sage because he cultivated righteous conduct and acted prudently and justly for the greater good, and as such Providence handed him the Mandate of Heaven instead of the monarchs of Old Albion.
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Postby Camelone » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:20 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Camelone wrote:Is that from the George Washington shrine you were talking about earlier?


No, it's just something I wrote.

Ah, gotcha. Very nice I must say.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:21 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
No, it's just something I wrote.


And that I’m using to add flavor to the culture of the Greater Pennsylvanian Hive (the faction inspired by my own views, or rather by an unflattering strawman of my views), one of the factions in post-Cataclysm North America. More specifically, it’s an excerpt from a primary school history textbook. It could go as such, perhaps:

The Kings of Old Columbia, known before the Cataclysm as the Founding Fathers, set down the sacred principles of good government based on the Proper Way of Collective Harmony for the people to follow. The deeds of George Washington are rightfully considered those of a sage because he cultivated righteous conduct and acted prudently and justly for the greater good, and as such Providence handed him the Mandate of Heaven instead of the monarchs of Old Albion.

"TRIGGERED IN CHINESE!"

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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
And that I’m using to add flavor to the culture of the Greater Pennsylvanian Hive (the faction inspired by my own views, or rather by an unflattering strawman of my views), one of the factions in post-Cataclysm North America. More specifically, it’s an excerpt from a primary school history textbook. It could go as such, perhaps:

The Kings of Old Columbia, known before the Cataclysm as the Founding Fathers, set down the sacred principles of good government based on the Proper Way of Collective Harmony for the people to follow. The deeds of George Washington are rightfully considered those of a sage because he cultivated righteous conduct and acted prudently and justly for the greater good, and as such Providence handed him the Mandate of Heaven instead of the monarchs of Old Albion.

"TRIGGERED IN CHINESE!"


Why?
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, not at you.


... It’s a thing, yes. I sometimes see commercials for it.


Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

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Postby Xuloqoia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
And that I’m using to add flavor to the culture of the Greater Pennsylvanian Hive (the faction inspired by my own views, or rather by an unflattering strawman of my views), one of the factions in post-Cataclysm North America. More specifically, it’s an excerpt from a primary school history textbook. It could go as such, perhaps:

The Kings of Old Columbia, known before the Cataclysm as the Founding Fathers, set down the sacred principles of good government based on the Proper Way of Collective Harmony for the people to follow. The deeds of George Washington are rightfully considered those of a sage because he cultivated righteous conduct and acted prudently and justly for the greater good, and as such Providence handed him the Mandate of Heaven instead of the monarchs of Old Albion.

"TRIGGERED IN CHINESE!"


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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:23 pm

The East Marches II wrote:I have discovered a rather disturbing trend. I was watching a program and it seems we are no longer allowed to question whether being fat is a good thing. These tear down the norms folks have really done a number.


Fat people and their excuses for why they can't lose weight annoy me honestly.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
... It’s a thing, yes. I sometimes see commercials for it.


Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

That's why we force them to become coolies and transport everything on foot. We'd reduce our carbon footprint!
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
... It’s a thing, yes. I sometimes see commercials for it.


Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

I think that if we actually have a national health service you'll see America's rampant obesity start to disappear.
Obesity is a health problem and like most health problems can go untreated when someone feels like they can't afford monthly check ups and pick up their prescriptions.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

I think that if we actually have a national health service you'll see America's rampant obesity start to disappear.
Obesity is a health problem and like most health problems can go untreated when someone feels like they can't afford monthly check ups and pick up their prescriptions.


Do you think people will listen to the doctor on watching their weight? The UK has a health system that is near ideal for the government run version and it still has mass obesity issues.

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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:26 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

I think that if we actually have a national health service you'll see America's rampant obesity start to disappear.
Obesity is a health problem and like most health problems can go untreated when someone feels like they can't afford monthly check ups and pick up their prescriptions.

If this were related to the presence or lack thereof of universal healthcare, obesity wouldn't be an issue in places like the UK, France, Germany, etc. It's becoming an issue in most places.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:26 pm

If we have a national health service, does this mean the government has a responsibility to tamper with people's personal choices to keep the system afloat as lives depend on it? Serious question no memes

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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:26 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
... It’s a thing, yes. I sometimes see commercials for it.


Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.


For an essay I had to write a few years back, I was required to read a passage on transfats in foods. It talked about banning them and asking us to make an argument out of the information provided. My argument was that it wasn't a free individual choice because of the fact that obesity cost society a ton of money in healthcare (I can't remember how much). It reinforced my belief that society isn't a vacuum and laissez faire principles don't apply.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:28 pm

Our issues with obesity are a result of lifestyle changes and the food we consume. That it's cheaper or the same price to buy two bags of chips instead of two bags of fresh fruit and veg is honestly appalling.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:28 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


It's so noble how you're offering your time to help old people. :^)
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:Our issues with obesity are a result of lifestyle changes and the food we consume. That it's cheaper or the same price to buy two bags of chips instead of two bags of fresh fruit and veg is honestly appalling.


The chips taste better though. Isn't it natural we would go towards what we like?

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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Fatties should be used as coolies for boomers to get around on.


It's so noble how you're offering your time to help old people. :^)

BTFO
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:


I'm deeply concerned that if we end up with a national health service, they will bankrupt the system by their old age.

I think that if we actually have a national health service you'll see America's rampant obesity start to disappear.
Obesity is a health problem and like most health problems can go untreated when someone feels like they can't afford monthly check ups and pick up their prescriptions.


Yeah I'm calling bullshit on this. Obesity while it's a health problem is self manageable. It's called grabbing your sack and rucking it.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think that if we actually have a national health service you'll see America's rampant obesity start to disappear.
Obesity is a health problem and like most health problems can go untreated when someone feels like they can't afford monthly check ups and pick up their prescriptions.

If this were related to the presence or lack thereof of universal healthcare, obesity wouldn't be an issue in places like the UK, France, Germany, etc. It's becoming an issue in most places.

I disagree with that, it would be LESS of an issue as inherit health issues are only part of the factor in obesity.
Perhaps 'disappear' was a poor choice of words in fairness.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:If this were related to the presence or lack thereof of universal healthcare, obesity wouldn't be an issue in places like the UK, France, Germany, etc. It's becoming an issue in most places.

I disagree with that, it would be LESS of an issue as inherit health issues are only part of the factor in obesity.
Perhaps 'disappear' was a poor choice of words in fairness.


Ok. How is National Healthcare going to significantly reduce obesity?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:31 pm

Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to banning soda, chips, candies, and other things which contribute to obesity.

I mean, it's not like there aren't a lot of foods I wouldn't already ban.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:31 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Our issues with obesity are a result of lifestyle changes and the food we consume. That it's cheaper or the same price to buy two bags of chips instead of two bags of fresh fruit and veg is honestly appalling.


The chips taste better though. Isn't it natural we would go towards what we like?

I used to think that but tbh when you drop your sugar and salt intake for awhile and then try stuff again, it often doesn't taste very good. It's more we grow accustomed to it as we grow up.

And I mean if people want to gorge on donuts and chips all day they can, but they should have to pay extra in tax. Smokers are expected to pay more in taxes, so why shouldn't the obese? Especially those who have the means to not be obese?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:32 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to banning soda, chips, candies, and other things which contribute to obesity.

I mean, it's not like there's a lot of foods I wouldn't already ban.


No, you don't need to any of this, that's like saying the availability of guns is why we have high rates of gang violence and such. People just need to learn to have some fucking self control.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:33 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
The chips taste better though. Isn't it natural we would go towards what we like?

I used to think that but tbh when you drop your sugar and salt intake for awhile and then try stuff again, it often doesn't taste very good. It's more we grow accustomed to it as we grow up.

And I mean if people want to gorge on donuts and chips all day they can, but they should have to pay extra in tax. Smokers are expected to pay more in taxes, so why shouldn't the obese? Especially those who have the means to not be obese?

^This, tbh. Fruit tastes really good if you actually eat it in any quantities. I recommend apples as a good starting fruit.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:33 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I disagree with that, it would be LESS of an issue as inherit health issues are only part of the factor in obesity.
Perhaps 'disappear' was a poor choice of words in fairness.


Ok. How is National Healthcare going to significantly reduce obesity?

Are you unaware of the conditions that can lead to rapid weight gain?
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-we ... on-weight/

I have family that deal with hypothyroidism and eat far less than I do and yet they retain over 300 pounds.

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