Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ

[Xuloqoia]

Impossible. Prolonged exposure to alcohol and illicit substances has rendered you immune to damage from any weapon wielded by man.

You joke but you're not wrong. I've been awake for 48 hours off nine energy drinks and some adderall.

I remember when my older brother drank so many energy drinks that he had to go to the hospital. He got better, though.

[United Muscovite Nations]

tbh still wondering why RWDT is still on the vaporwave mindset instead of saluting juice wrld, who, in an ultimate act of defiance against Modern Society, took a bunch of percocets and died... :/

Who the fuck is juice world?

[Xuloqoia]

tbh still wondering why RWDT is still on the vaporwave mindset instead of saluting juice wrld, who, in an ultimate act of defiance against Modern Society, took a bunch of percocets and died... :/

Who the fuck is juice world?

I don't know either. I did a quick search, and apparently they're a musician of some sort?

[Kowani]

tbh still wondering why RWDT is still on the vaporwave mindset instead of saluting juice wrld, who, in an ultimate act of defiance against Modern Society, took a bunch of percocets and died... :/

Who the fuck is juice world?

Rapper.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Who the fuck is juice world?

Rapper.

A wrapper for juice boxes?

[Kowani]

Rapper.

A wrapper for juice boxes?

……No.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Guys give me ideas on how to make my flag more aesthetic. You can make me one if you want but feel free to leave suggestions on how to make my flag more aesthetic.

Slightly more red tint, contrast tiny bit higher, and perhaps (film degradation)

[Totally Not OEP]

Too soon bro. Juice got me through some real heavy shit when I got my heart broke.

And it's crazy cuz there was so much stuff leading up to his death that kind of foreshadowed it. Like he started a viral trend to fake a seize to his most popular song, he rapped about dying at 21 and ended up dying a weak after his 21st birthday, compared himself to John Lennon who also died on December 8th, and perhaps most importantly, openly talked about how his drug used affected and harmed him. so it's not super RWDT related but i do think there's something to be said about how his death may have been a reaction to the overwhelming feeling that comes with superstardom and feeling entrapped by the police.

What gives them the insight and creativity ultimately destroys them.

[Hanafuridake]

We really do have the best ascetic

[New Visayan Islands]

And it's crazy cuz there was so much stuff leading up to his death that kind of foreshadowed it. Like he started a viral trend to fake a seize to his most popular song, he rapped about dying at 21 and ended up dying a weak after his 21st birthday, compared himself to John Lennon who also died on December 8th, and perhaps most importantly, openly talked about how his drug used affected and harmed him. so it's not super RWDT related but i do think there's something to be said about how his death may have been a reaction to the overwhelming feeling that comes with superstardom and feeling entrapped by the police.

What gives them the insight and creativity ultimately destroys them.

Sounds like a Deal with the Devil, alright: great insight and creativity at the cost of self-destruction.

[Proctopeo]

My flag's too simple to make ｖａｐｏｒｗａｖｅ, so I went for glitchcore instead. Might go back and intensify the glitchiness, tbh.
I got an animated version, too, but it's like three times the flag size limit, so /shrug
https://imgur.com/FstRKFE

[Hakons]

Rockefeller Republicans where you at

Weren't you guys social liberals that gradually switched to the Democrats?

[Greater Istanistan]

Rockefeller Republicans where you at

Weren't you guys social liberals that gradually switched to the Democrats?

Rockefeller was pretty moderate on most counts and pro-civil rights, but infamously draconian on crime. Part of that actually included a whole lot of gun control, but this was from the period where law and order issues and firearms didn't cut quite so cleanly across partisan lines.

[Hakons]

Weren't you guys social liberals that gradually switched to the Democrats?

Rockefeller was pretty moderate on most counts and pro-civil rights, but infamously draconian on crime. Part of that actually included a whole lot of gun control, but this was from the period where law and order issues and firearms didn't cut quite so cleanly across partisan lines.

The American right-wing is pretty interesting. Academically it's called fusionionism: the alliance of right libertarians who care mostly about the free market, combined with social conservatives who want to preserve traditional morality. These two factions can come into conflict.

I fall in mostly with the social conservatives. I'm very conservative on a lot of social issues, but I also split with most conservatives on immigration, health care, and labor unions (Catholic social teaching yeehaw).

[Novus America]

In 1854, the South had before it a choice of paramount importance. The Black Warrior Affair had inflamed Nationalism across the nation, uniting both North and South against Spain, granting a grand opening for the claiming of Cuba from that declining European power. As an existing Slave territory, and not of interest to Northerners as a prospective place of settlement, the island could've been annexed and made into a new Slave State for the Union. The alternative option, however, was that of the Territory of Kansas; unlike Cuba, it was a target of Northern interest, being suited for farmers from that section of the nation. The South had enough power that she could seek one, but not both.

Historically, the South quite obviously chose wrong. Her politicians, instead of pushing the Cuban angle, instead decided to pick a fight over Kansas via pushing for the Kansas-Nebraska Act, an event which precipitated the collapse of the Whig Party and its replacement with the aggressively Free Soil (with a strong Abolitionist faction to boot as well) Republican Party. Sectional tensions from there on went into a steep decline, ultimately leading to the Civil War. To quote from The Rise and Fall of the American Whig Party by Michael Holt, on pages 981-982:

"The death of the Whig Party thus had consequences, and none graver than the outbreak of the Civil War in April 1861. This is not to say that there never could have been a civil war had a bisectional Whig Party survived. If anything, this study should show how rapidly contingent events could change things. But surely the circumstances provoking that war and its chronology would be different. The historical Civil War, the one that started in April 1861, resulted primarily from the fact that an exclusively northern and overtly Anti-Southern Republican party, not a bisectional Whig party, benefited most from anger at the Democrats in 1856 and defeated Democrats for the presidency in 1860. That Southern fire-eaters who had unsuccessfully sought secession for decades could have exploited the election of a Whig president, supported by southern Whigs, to trigger disunion seems doubtful."

Further on, in pages 982-983, Holt further states that:

"...no Whig action did more to destroy the party and bring on the war than southern Whigs' easily avoidable support for the Nebraska Act in 1854, a mistake that many of them later rued."

So, what if the South had choose correctly and picked Cuba? Obviously the United States, even in the 1850s, was sufficiently powerful to topple the Spanish authority in Cuba and achieve victory. Nationalist feelings and the previously mentioned characteristics would likely ensure the rapid entry of Cuba as a Slave State into the Union. Without the Kansas-Nebraska debacle, the Whigs would also likely to remain around, helping to keep tensions between the sections of the country in check. More importantly, it would've opened up further opportunities for expansion. According to President Buchanan's Proposed Intervention in Mexico by Howard Lafayette Wilson, from the The American Historical Review Vol. 5, No. 4 (Jul., 1900), pages 687-701:

As early as 1858, President Buchanan had foreshadowed a determined policy with reference to Mexico; he declared that abundant cause existed for a resort to hostilities against the Conservative government, but that the success of the Constitutional party appeared to offer hopes of a peaceful adjustment of our difficulties with the country. "But for this expectation, I should at once have recommended to Congress to grant the necessary power to the President to take possession of a sufficient portion of the remote and unsettled territory of Mexico, to be held in pledge until our injuries shall be redressed and our just demands be satisfied."'

Reignited antislavery sentiment in the North, spurred on by the Kansas-Nebraska controversy, meant it was impossible for such to make it through Congress. Buchanan would not be deterred, however, and would attempt to get around the Congressional hostility by by negotiating the McLane-Ocampo Treaty. This too failed, and ultimately the President was compelled to give up his schemes. However, given the hypothetical of the Kansas issue being avoided, it is perhaps entirely possibly to see Buchanan having his way on the matter. Most likely this adventurism would result in the establishment of a protectorate over Mexico, ultimately transitioning into full blown annexation; afterall, even historically several regional Mexican strongmen would seek to be added to the United States and, later one, even the Confederacy.

This is an interesting alternative history idea. The slavery issue would have to be resolved at some point, but certainly the South trying to expand into Kansas greatly inflamed the political situation, encouraged free soil as defense against slavery expanding and even turned some people away from pure free soil (no expansion of slavery vs abolition) to a more abolitionist view and ended any hope of peaceful resolution of the issue.

Had the South gone to the Spanish colonies instead, it would have caused far less conflict.
The tricky part with Mexico for the South though is Mexico was largely anti slavery and would likely join as free states.

[Napkizemlja]

We really do have the best ascetic

And the best playlists

[Greater Cesnica]

What are your political compasses? Mine is:

[Fahran]

What weebery is this?

I think those characters are Chinese, right?

[Napkizemlja]

What weebery is this?

Retraux 80's aesthetics isn't weebery, Fahran.

[Greater Cesnica]

What weebery is this?

I think those characters are Chinese, right?

We're doing DnD polls. It's safe to assume some weebery is occurring.

I don't have a problem with this however.

[Aristoqueer Neo-Taipei]

Guys give me ideas on how to make my flag more aesthetic. You can make me one if you want but feel free to leave suggestions on how to make my flag more aesthetic.

https://photomosh.com/

Just use that.

This is very good, thank you for your service.

[Greater Cesnica]

https://photomosh.com/

Just use that.

This is very good, thank you for your service.

Hello new poster! Would you like an obligatory bro-hug?

[Minachia]

Songs to fit the RWDT's new Ａ Ｅ Ｓ Ｔ Ｈ Ｅ Ｔ Ｉ Ｃ

[Greater Cesnica]

Please make this the RWDT theme song I beg y'all please.

[Aristoqueer Neo-Taipei]

This is very good, thank you for your service.

Hello new poster! Would you like an obligatory bro-hug?

I'm a Poster from the days of yore