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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
56
42%
2. Life in prison but in gen pop
31
23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
21
16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
24
18%
 
Total votes : 132

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:57 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote: :rofl:


Are you laughing with me or are you laughing at me?

At.
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If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
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Postby Joohan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:57 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote: :rofl:


Are you laughing with me or are you laughing at me?


Does it unnerve you? The anxiety of not knowing? Good...
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Xuloqoia
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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:58 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
Are you laughing with me or are you laughing at me?

At.


May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.
American civic nationalist with Saint-Simonian and Mohist characteristics, I guess...

Hanafuridake wrote:
Edict of Emperor Swag of Mohist Thought upon ascending the throne wrote:"Previously our subjects cherished selfish and egoistic thought and had no concern for the greater good. The world has thus become disordered and living beings lived in a state of animalistic hostility to each other. But now Heaven has granted us the throne and we shall restore the Proper Way of the Collective Harmony. Huá and Yí will live in peace, yin and yang shall interpenetrate, the exemplary behavior of Yao and Shun will be followed by all."

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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:06 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote:At.


May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.

Because Yang’s ideas are for the most part, unworkable?
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:08 pm

My biggest complaint with Yang is that while he is a forward looking person who actually is concerned about things like automation his solution is just "lol here have a little bit of money while the capitalist class becomes wealthier and more powerful than at any time in history".

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:My biggest complaint with Yang is that while he is a forward looking person who actually is concerned about things like automation his solution is just "lol here have a little bit of money while the capitalist class becomes wealthier and more powerful than at any time in history".

One of my major complaints, yes.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Xuloqoia
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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.

Because Yang’s ideas are for the most part, unworkable?


If I may ask, who do you support in the coming election?
American civic nationalist with Saint-Simonian and Mohist characteristics, I guess...

Hanafuridake wrote:
Edict of Emperor Swag of Mohist Thought upon ascending the throne wrote:"Previously our subjects cherished selfish and egoistic thought and had no concern for the greater good. The world has thus become disordered and living beings lived in a state of animalistic hostility to each other. But now Heaven has granted us the throne and we shall restore the Proper Way of the Collective Harmony. Huá and Yí will live in peace, yin and yang shall interpenetrate, the exemplary behavior of Yao and Shun will be followed by all."

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Postby Joohan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:My biggest complaint with Yang is that while he is a forward looking person who actually is concerned about things like automation his solution is just "lol here have a little bit of money while the capitalist class becomes wealthier and more powerful than at any time in history".


^this
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.

Because Yang’s ideas are for the most part, unworkable?


I mean, have you heard Bernie and Warren talk about paying for their healthcare plans? At least Yang is cheery
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Postby Cappuccina » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:12 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote:At.


May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.

The fact you support anyone in the upcoming race is reason enough to laugh.
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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:13 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
May you elaborate as to why you’re laughing at me? All I did was state who I supported in the 2020 election.

The fact you support anyone in the upcoming race is reason enough to laugh.


You’ve given up on politics, I take it?
American civic nationalist with Saint-Simonian and Mohist characteristics, I guess...

Hanafuridake wrote:
Edict of Emperor Swag of Mohist Thought upon ascending the throne wrote:"Previously our subjects cherished selfish and egoistic thought and had no concern for the greater good. The world has thus become disordered and living beings lived in a state of animalistic hostility to each other. But now Heaven has granted us the throne and we shall restore the Proper Way of the Collective Harmony. Huá and Yí will live in peace, yin and yang shall interpenetrate, the exemplary behavior of Yao and Shun will be followed by all."

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:14 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:The fact you support anyone in the upcoming race is reason enough to laugh.


You’ve given up on politics, I take it?


You don't need to give up on politics to realize nobody in this election season who has even a slim chance of winning is worth supporting.

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Postby Cappuccina » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:16 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:The fact you support anyone in the upcoming race is reason enough to laugh.


You’ve given up on politics, I take it?

I have zero confidence in the current political class actually doing anything more than lining their pockets and manipulating public opinion to do more of the same. I see elections as little more than an entertaining show of professional clowns and charlatans.
Muslim, Female, Trans, Not white..... oppression points x4!!!!
Come join me for a cup of joe!
Automobile & Music fan!!! ^_^
Also, an everything 1980s fan!!!
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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:19 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
You’ve given up on politics, I take it?

I have zero confidence in the current political class actually doing anything more than lining their pockets and manipulating public opinion to do more of the same. I see elections as little more than an entertaining show of professional clowns and charlatans.


> Entertaining show of clowns and charlatans

Wait a minute, that’s just NSG.
American civic nationalist with Saint-Simonian and Mohist characteristics, I guess...

Hanafuridake wrote:
Edict of Emperor Swag of Mohist Thought upon ascending the throne wrote:"Previously our subjects cherished selfish and egoistic thought and had no concern for the greater good. The world has thus become disordered and living beings lived in a state of animalistic hostility to each other. But now Heaven has granted us the throne and we shall restore the Proper Way of the Collective Harmony. Huá and Yí will live in peace, yin and yang shall interpenetrate, the exemplary behavior of Yao and Shun will be followed by all."

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:21 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:I have zero confidence in the current political class actually doing anything more than lining their pockets and manipulating public opinion to do more of the same. I see elections as little more than an entertaining show of professional clowns and charlatans.


> Entertaining show of clowns and charlatans

Wait a minute, that’s just NSG.

Of course, for Lacan, the circus is always in town..."
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:21 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
You’ve given up on politics, I take it?


You don't need to give up on politics to realize nobody in this election season who has even a slim chance of winning is worth supporting.


Seeing as how it looks like the DNC is going to be nominating grandpa Joe, Trump's bound to win. Never mind all the trumped up scandal's and opposition, I think he's done a great job as president so far.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:46 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Because Yang’s ideas are for the most part, unworkable?


If I may ask, who do you support in the coming election?

Bernie, first and foremost.

Joohan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You don't need to give up on politics to realize nobody in this election season who has even a slim chance of winning is worth supporting.


Seeing as how it looks like the DNC is going to be nominating grandpa Joe, Trump's bound to win. Never mind all the trumped up scandal's and opposition, I think he's done a great job as president so far.

…Based on what metric?
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:02 pm

Kowani wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
If I may ask, who do you support in the coming election?

Bernie, first and foremost.

Joohan wrote:
Seeing as how it looks like the DNC is going to be nominating grandpa Joe, Trump's bound to win. Never mind all the trumped up scandal's and opposition, I think he's done a great job as president so far.

…Based on what metric?


His expansion of domestic petroleum drilling has contributed hugely to America retaining it's position as the world's largest producer; got rid of the individual mandate; deregulated certain parts of the Dodd-Frank act, and though I didn't agree with everything he did there, he did help out local and regional banks and credit unions a lot; signed right to try into law; his success's in tackling the opioid epidemic; Taking the fight over trade straight to China; his hardline stance against North Korea; his expansion of the military; moving the embassy to Jerusalem; and his heavy handed enforcement of our immigration laws.

Stuff off the top of my head.

He's not perfect, but he's a fantastic start! Now we just need someone who is more socially conservative and woke about cosmopolitan capitalism.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:13 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Why is it just the ti- OOOOHHHH


I don't get it?

Just the tip.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:15 pm

Joohan wrote:His expansion of domestic petroleum drilling has contributed hugely to America retaining it's position as the world's largest producer;
Ah, yes, he contributed to climate change. Whoo.
got rid of the individual mandate;
Hooray for objectively worse healthcare?
deregulated certain parts of the Dodd-Frank act,
This is a terrible idea.
and though I didn't agree with everything he did there, he did help out local and regional banks and credit unions a lot;
Citation needed.
signed right to try into law;
Alright, this is actually good.
his success's in tackling the opioid epidemic;
You realize the rate of opioid related deaths exploded under Trump.
Taking the fight over trade straight to China;
Right idea, wrong solution.
his hardline stance against North Korea;

Yeah, his photo-ops were real hardline.
his expansion of the military;
Also not a good thing.
moving the embassy to Jerusalem;
This is good because why?
and his heavy handed enforcement of our immigration laws.
Look, more disasters towards a nonissue.

He's not perfect, but he's a fantastic start!
:rofl: :rofl:
Now we just need someone who is more socially conservative and woke about cosmopolitan capitalism.
The latter yes, the former no.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:32 pm

Joohan wrote:moving the embassy to Jerusalem


Bending over to the whims of a rogue state that sells our technology to our rivals and openly interferes in our domestic affairs more than any other is hardly a good thing.

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Joohan wrote:moving the embassy to Jerusalem


Bending over to the whims of a rogue state that sells our technology to our rivals and openly interferes in our domestic affairs more than any other is hardly a good thing.


Totally Not OEP wrote:Okay, so hear me out....

Let's just leave tactical nuclear weapons throughout the Middle East, making like a scanvenger hunt and do what EA does with micro-transactions; "please export 1 million barrels of fuel for free for the next clue" type shit. At the end, enough of the Islamics will have a stockpile of weapons, and then we just pull out...and let them and the Israelis figure out what happens next BUT we broadcast it live on HBO.
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Postby Turbofolkia » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:55 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
I blame Protestants.


Yeah it's always our fault. While we have our issues, including but not limited to the complete abandonment of Christianity in favor of secularism and becoming an arm of liberal politics, it wasn't our leaders raping kids.

The Anglican Church is just as implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal as the Catholic Church is. I think one CoE diocese in Canada even went bankrupt from all the compensation it had to give to victims of abuse.

And it’s not like the 1000 different offshoots of Protestantism that you have in America are any better. Even if they’re not abusing children, it’s just megachurches filled with people on mobility strollers donating their life savings to Pastor Hamburglar so that he can buy his sixth McMansion.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:31 am

Turbofolkia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Yeah it's always our fault. While we have our issues, including but not limited to the complete abandonment of Christianity in favor of secularism and becoming an arm of liberal politics, it wasn't our leaders raping kids.

The Anglican Church is just as implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal as the Catholic Church is. I think one CoE diocese in Canada even went bankrupt from all the compensation it had to give to victims of abuse.

And it’s not like the 1000 different offshoots of Protestantism that you have in America are any better. Even if they’re not abusing children, it’s just megachurches filled with people on mobility strollers donating their life savings to Pastor Hamburglar so that he can buy his sixth McMansion.

I’m sigging that.
Spanish Atheist.
If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:59 am

Turbofolkia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Yeah it's always our fault. While we have our issues, including but not limited to the complete abandonment of Christianity in favor of secularism and becoming an arm of liberal politics, it wasn't our leaders raping kids.

The Anglican Church is just as implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal as the Catholic Church is. I think one CoE diocese in Canada even went bankrupt from all the compensation it had to give to victims of abuse.

And it’s not like the 1000 different offshoots of Protestantism that you have in America are any better. Even if they’re not abusing children, it’s just megachurches filled with people on mobility strollers donating their life savings to Pastor Hamburglar so that he can buy his sixth McMansion.


As far as the last part, there is a ton of variety within Protestantism in the US. Protestantism is not EXCLUSIVELY those commercialized prosperity theology mega churches you describe, although said churches do exist.

Your average Episcopalian (American Anglican) church is completely different from your stereotypical Evangelical prosperity theology mega church.

Of course not church is free from problems. One is not necessarily measurably better or worse in any objective way.
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