Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ

[Nea Byzantia]

>Protestants schism at the drop of a hat, so it's better than unified Churches.

Nice.

"I'm going to create my own Church, with blackjack and hookers!" - Martin Luther to the Pope
"I'm going to create my own Church, with blackjack, hookers, and payday lenders!" - John Calvin to Martin Luther
"Immae gunna create me own fookin' kirk with blackjack, 'ookars, payday lendars 'nd fookin' fook ya wee cunt" - John Knox to John Calvin
"I'm going to create my own church!" *crickets* "What? I just want everyone to be nice." - The Quakers to everyone else

You forgot the Baptists...

[Xuloqoia]

>Protestants schism at the drop of a hat, so it's better than unified Churches.

Nice.

"I'm going to create my own Church, with blackjack and hookers!" - Martin Luther to the Pope
"I'm going to create my own Church, with blackjack, hookers, and payday lenders!" - John Calvin to Martin Luther
"Immae gunna create me own fookin' kirk with blackjack, 'ookars, payday lendars 'nd fookin' fook ya wee cunt" - John Knox to John Calvin
"I'm going to create my own church!" *crickets* "What? I just want everyone to be nice." - The Quakers to everyone else

Hey, don't knock the Quakers! They founded my home state of Pennsylvania...

Okay, you can knock on them for that. It's a real (pardon my language) shithole in most of the state, such as where I grew up.

[South Central South-Park]

Nothing wrong with decentralization buddy, I dont need to listen to some Pope in Rome or the Patriarch in Constantinople.

Decentralization is a very different thing from constantly splitting and schisming over the smallest doctrinal difference.

The Pope and the Patriarch of Constantinople are not parallels. Orthodoxy is also very decentralized, and Constantinople doesn't have authority throughout the Eastern Church.

Nothing wrong with being to break off from those who corrupt the faith and preach falsities and practice blasphemy, like the catholics Pope who said gays go to heaven. And I dont give two licks about the Orthodox church, every single orthodox country is full of drunks and lazy people. They call it protestant work ethic for a reason, just look at the countries who practice it, orthodoxy dont teach any valuable lessons.

[Nea Byzantia]

Decentralization is a very different thing from constantly splitting and schisming over the smallest doctrinal difference.

The Pope and the Patriarch of Constantinople are not parallels. Orthodoxy is also very decentralized, and Constantinople doesn't have authority throughout the Eastern Church.

Nothing wrong with being to break off from those who corrupt the faith and preach falsities and practice blasphemy, like the catholics Pope who said gays go to heaven. And I dont give two licks about the Orthodox church, every single orthodox country is full of drunks and lazy people. They call it protestant work ethic for a reason, just look at the countries who practice it, orthodoxy dont teach any valuable lessons.

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

[Hanafuridake]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmykia

Best Russia.

I didn't know that you were into Chess, Hana. I always thought of you as more of a Go person.

Well that too, I definitely love a game of chess. But it's also the only Buddhist-majority place in Europe. My best friend lived near there for most of his early life.

[Diopolis]

Nothing wrong with being to break off from those who corrupt the faith and preach falsities and practice blasphemy, like the catholics Pope who said gays go to heaven. And I dont give two licks about the Orthodox church, every single orthodox country is full of drunks and lazy people. They call it protestant work ethic for a reason, just look at the countries who practice it, orthodoxy dont teach any valuable lessons.

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

The Faroe Islands are technically not an independent country, but are likely the most socially conservative part of Europe despite being very Protestant.

[Nea Byzantia]

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

The Faroe Islands are technically not an independent country, but are likely the most socially conservative part of Europe despite being very Protestant.

They belong to Denmark; so they don't count, even though they're autonomous.

[Xuloqoia]

I didn't know that you were into Chess, Hana. I always thought of you as more of a Go person.

Well that too, I definitely love a game of chess. But it's also the only Buddhist-majority place in Europe. My best friend lived near there for most of his early life.

Neat.

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

The Faroe Islands are technically not an independent country, but are likely the most socially conservative part of Europe despite being very Protestant.

Faroe Islands... it's been a while since I've looked at a map. Aren't they part of Denmark, if I'm not mistaken?

[Nea Byzantia]

Well that too, I definitely love a game of chess. But it's also the only Buddhist-majority place in Europe. My best friend lived near there for most of his early life.

Neat.

The Faroe Islands are technically not an independent country, but are likely the most socially conservative part of Europe despite being very Protestant.

Faroe Islands... it's been a while since I've looked at a map. Aren't they part of Denmark, if I'm not mistaken?

Yup.

[Hanafuridake]

Nothing wrong with being to break off from those who corrupt the faith and preach falsities and practice blasphemy, like the catholics Pope who said gays go to heaven. And I dont give two licks about the Orthodox church, every single orthodox country is full of drunks and lazy people. They call it protestant work ethic for a reason, just look at the countries who practice it, orthodoxy dont teach any valuable lessons.

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

Kowani can correct me if I'm wrong, but Spain, Italy, and France all seem pretty liberal by most standards. I've not seen Macron cry Deus Vult yet at least. In regard to Orthodox countries, decriminalizing spousal battery and constantly badgering Germany for reparation money aren't particularly impressive.

[Diopolis]

Well that too, I definitely love a game of chess. But it's also the only Buddhist-majority place in Europe. My best friend lived near there for most of his early life.

Neat.

The Faroe Islands are technically not an independent country, but are likely the most socially conservative part of Europe despite being very Protestant.

Faroe Islands... it's been a while since I've looked at a map. Aren't they part of Denmark, if I'm not mistaken?

They are an autonomous part of Denmark, sort of similar to Puerto Rico and the US.

[Nea Byzantia]

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

Kowani can correct me if I'm wrong, but Spain, Italy, and France all seem pretty liberal by most standards. I've not seen Macron cry Deus Vult yet at least. In regard to Orthodox countries, decriminalizing spousal battery and constantly badgering Germany for reparation money aren't particularly impressive.

That's why I put the qualification "those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many". I apologize if it was unclear. But one thing I am certain of is that you won't find any Protestant countries on that list.

[South Central South-Park]

Nothing wrong with being to break off from those who corrupt the faith and preach falsities and practice blasphemy, like the catholics Pope who said gays go to heaven. And I dont give two licks about the Orthodox church, every single orthodox country is full of drunks and lazy people. They call it protestant work ethic for a reason, just look at the countries who practice it, orthodoxy dont teach any valuable lessons.

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

The governments did that, protestant churches were tied to the state and back in the old days that was great. But then democracy happened and liberal hippies who became the elected officials that became the state started making a ton of shitty changes to church doctrine and rules until the separation of state and church happened, which still hasnt happened in some protestant countries. Its the politicians who have ruined the protestant churches and caused fragmentation. Orthodox countries have had different history and experience and havent been infected with the cancer that is liberalism, which is at fault for this. If this poison take hold in orthodox countries trust me itll have the same effect. But it aint the churchs fault, its been corrupted, not all branches on the tree ofcourse.

[Xuloqoia]

Neat.



Faroe Islands... it's been a while since I've looked at a map. Aren't they part of Denmark, if I'm not mistaken?

They are an autonomous part of Denmark, sort of similar to Puerto Rico and the US.

Ah, okay then. I take it that there's some cultural differences, then, between the Danish "core" and the Faroe Islands?

[Nea Byzantia]

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

The governments did that, protestant churches were tied to the state and back in the old days that was great. But then democracy happened and liberal hippies who became the elected officials that became the state started making a ton of shitty changes to church doctrine and rules until the separation of state and church happened, which still hasnt happened in some protestant countries. Its the politicians who have ruined the protestant churches and caused fragmentation. Orthodox countries have had different history and experience and havent been infected with the cancer that is liberalism, which is at fault for this. If this poison take hold in orthodox countries trust me itll have the same effect. But it aint the churchs fault, its been corrupted, not all branches on the tree ofcourse.

Well, let's recall which country was the first to overthrow their Monarch and impose a Parliamentary "Democracy". HINT: It was Protestant England in the 1640s.

[Hanafuridake]

Kowani can correct me if I'm wrong, but Spain, Italy, and France all seem pretty liberal by most standards. I've not seen Macron cry Deus Vult yet at least. In regard to Orthodox countries, decriminalizing spousal battery and constantly badgering Germany for reparation money aren't particularly impressive.

That's why I put the qualification "those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many". I apologize if it was unclear. But one thing I am certain of is that you won't find any Protestant countries on that list.

Which countries are you referring to then? If you're referring to South America, they have secular movements of their own and folk Catholicism can be deeply heretical (e.g. Santa Muerte).

Globalism is pretty much a bogeyman to begin with.

[Nea Byzantia]

They are an autonomous part of Denmark, sort of similar to Puerto Rico and the US.

Ah, okay then. I take it that there's some cultural differences, then, between the Danish "core" and the Faroe Islands?

Probably.

[Xuloqoia]

The governments did that, protestant churches were tied to the state and back in the old days that was great. But then democracy happened and liberal hippies who became the elected officials that became the state started making a ton of shitty changes to church doctrine and rules until the separation of state and church happened, which still hasnt happened in some protestant countries. Its the politicians who have ruined the protestant churches and caused fragmentation. Orthodox countries have had different history and experience and havent been infected with the cancer that is liberalism, which is at fault for this. If this poison take hold in orthodox countries trust me itll have the same effect. But it aint the churchs fault, its been corrupted, not all branches on the tree ofcourse.

Well, let's recall which country was the first to overthrow their Monarch and impose a Parliamentary "Democracy". HINT: It was Protestant England in the 1640s.

May one of the British users correct me if I'm mistaken but Cromwell's regime was (for all practical purposes, ideology aside) an autocracy in all but name, no?

[Hanafuridake]

I just realized that despite enduring an even more intense anti-religious campaign than the Soviet Union, Cambodians are actually way more religious than modern Orthodox Russians. This pleases me greatly.

[Nea Byzantia]

Well, let's recall which country was the first to overthrow their Monarch and impose a Parliamentary "Democracy". HINT: It was Protestant England in the 1640s.

May one of the British users correct me if I'm mistaken but Cromwell's regime was (for all practical purposes, ideology aside) an autocracy in all but name, no?

Hence the giant air quote around Democracy...

[South Central South-Park]

The governments did that, protestant churches were tied to the state and back in the old days that was great. But then democracy happened and liberal hippies who became the elected officials that became the state started making a ton of shitty changes to church doctrine and rules until the separation of state and church happened, which still hasnt happened in some protestant countries. Its the politicians who have ruined the protestant churches and caused fragmentation. Orthodox countries have had different history and experience and havent been infected with the cancer that is liberalism, which is at fault for this. If this poison take hold in orthodox countries trust me itll have the same effect. But it aint the churchs fault, its been corrupted, not all branches on the tree ofcourse.

Well, let's recall which country was the first to overthrow their Monarch and impose a Parliamentary "Democracy". HINT: It was Protestant England in the 1640s.

Yeah sure England was the first to overthrow their monarchy but just cause you advocate for protestantism doesnt mean you have to advocate for democracy. And that was the English, not every protestant is English.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

May one of the British users correct me if I'm mistaken but Cromwell's regime was (for all practical purposes, ideology aside) an autocracy in all but name, no?

Hence the giant air quote around Democracy...

It would have turned out better if there was a better leader at the helm.

[Xuloqoia]

May one of the British users correct me if I'm mistaken but Cromwell's regime was (for all practical purposes, ideology aside) an autocracy in all but name, no?

Hence the giant air quote around Democracy...

Ah. Understood. Do you remember the discourse a while back regarding the concept of a "popular autocracy"? Would that apply to the Interregnum (or whatever one wishes to call the period)?

[Nea Byzantia]

Hence the giant air quote around Democracy...

It would have turned out better if there was a better leader at the helm.

I view the American Revolution in many ways as the sequel to the English Civil War, but maybe that's just me?

[Kowani]

The Protestant countries, you mean? Yeah, they're all a bunch of secular, liberal, hellholes, thanks to Protestantism...At least most of the Catholic and Orthodox countries still have some semblance of traditional values and Western Civilization - those countries that haven't sold out to Globalism and Secularism; which aren't many. But I can't think of one Protestant country that that applies to.

Kowani can correct me if I'm wrong, but Spain, Italy, and France all seem pretty liberal by most standards. I've not seen Macron cry Deus Vult yet at least. In regard to Orthodox countries, decriminalizing spousal battery and constantly badgering Germany for reparation money aren't particularly impressive.

We are…split. Although the standard for what is considered conservatism in Spain is made more confusing by regional factionalism and economic thought.