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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
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2. Life in prison but in gen pop
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23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
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16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
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Total votes : 132

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:11 am

Surkiea II wrote:

Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:11 am

Kowani wrote:
Fahran wrote:Y'all are two for two since Franco.

Juan Carlos started out good, and became shit.

I think the one bad thing he did involved that elephant hunting trip to Botswana as unemployment surged. I don't really fault him for snapping at the presidents of Venezuela and Nicaragua given how insufferable and petty they were being. Of course, he was never altogether popular in Catalonia. I believe y'all burnt his picture back when he was the most popular Spanish-speaking leader globally. You're Catalan if I remember correctly, right?
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:13 am

Meligoland wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:

poland really is one of the best countries in Europe

Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:13 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:

Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

Maybe if you like oligarchs, krokodil, and pining over Bolshevism.

Don't get me wrong. Russian culture is often breath-taking, elegant, and beautiful, but the current political and social situation leaves much to be desired. Putin is probably the best leader the country has had in decades and even he can't manage to cut out the rot and corruption.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:15 am

Kowani wrote:
Meligoland wrote:poland really is one of the best countries in Europe

Nah. It’s like the bratty spoiled kid of Europe.

The fact this isn't the mainstream view on Poland yet is a sad truth about life tbh.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:16 am

Fahran wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

Maybe if you like oligarchs, krokodil, and pining over Bolshevism.

Don't get me wrong. Russian culture is often breath-taking, elegant, and beautiful, but the current political and social situation leaves much to be desired. Putin is probably the best leader the country has had in decades and even he can't manage to cut out the rot and corruption.

Putin is part of that corruption.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:24 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:

Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

Ew no, fuck Russia.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Meligoland wrote:poland really is one of the best countries in Europe

Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:25 am

Surkiea II wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

Ew no, fuck Russia.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

What values is Poland "found on" exactly?
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:26 am

Surkiea II wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Yes...but Russia is MORE based...

Ew no, fuck Russia.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

Novus, is that you?

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Postby Xuloqoia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:28 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Ew no, fuck Russia.


Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

Novus, is that you?


I don't think that Novus and Surkiea are the same user, Nea. They merely have the same flag.
I may return for somewhat longer than I was initially expecting. Why am I here? No idea whatsoever. I really ought to find some way out of this place.

Also, the NS stats don't reflect my RL views, just to clarify.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am

North German Realm wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Ew no, fuck Russia.


Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

What values is Poland "found on" exactly?

Egregious Catholicism and Winged Hussars arriving. :p

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Ew no, fuck Russia.


Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

Novus, is that you?

Their political positions certainly don't seem to be close.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:30 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Fahran wrote:Maybe if you like oligarchs, krokodil, and pining over Bolshevism.

Don't get me wrong. Russian culture is often breath-taking, elegant, and beautiful, but the current political and social situation leaves much to be desired. Putin is probably the best leader the country has had in decades and even he can't manage to cut out the rot and corruption.

Putin is part of that corruption.

I mean... I don't disagree.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:30 am

North German Realm wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Ew no, fuck Russia.


Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

What values is Poland "found on" exactly?

Christianity.

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Ew no, fuck Russia.


Because they want to protect the values their nation was founded on and don't want their Children to be corrupted by degeneracy. If only America would do the same.

Novus, is that you?

Meh, I agree with Novus on foreign policy but he needs to embrace traditionalism and social conservatism more.

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:34 am

Surkiea II wrote:
North German Realm wrote:What values is Poland "found on" exactly?

Christianity.
Not an answer. What "values" was Poland (honestly, either iteration of the Polish State) founded on?

Fahran wrote:
North German Realm wrote:What values is Poland "found on" exactly?

Egregious Catholicism and Winged Hussars arriving. :p

Fair enough
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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:42 am

North German Realm wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Christianity.
Not an answer. What "values" was Poland (honestly, either iteration of the Polish State) founded on?

The values of upholding god's law upon the land, defending Christianity against all enemies, to enforces what the bible says. All of Europe was founded upon this at one time. Sadly, through secularisation, Europe has lost touch with it's true-self and is now a nihilistic shadow of filth.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:44 am

Fahran wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Putin is part of that corruption.

I mean... I don't disagree.

There is even the possibility that Putin and the FSB bombed their own people in the Russian Apartment Bombings. If that is true, then Putin is certainly not a good leader, but rather staged to look like one.

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:47 am

Surkiea II wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Not an answer. What "values" was Poland (honestly, either iteration of the Polish State) founded on?

The values of upholding god's law upon the land, defending Christianity against all enemies, to enforces what the bible says. All of Europe was founded upon this at one time. Sadly, through secularisation, Europe has lost touch with it's true-self and is now a nihilistic shadow of filth.

That's not what the Polish Constitution says though. The closest things resembling "values" are "the inherent dignity of the person, his or her right to freedom, the obligation of solidarity with others, and respect for these principles as the unshakeable foundation of the Republic of Poland"
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:47 am

Surkiea II wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Not an answer. What "values" was Poland (honestly, either iteration of the Polish State) founded on?

The values of upholding god's law upon the land, defending Christianity against all enemies, to enforces what the bible says. All of Europe was founded upon this at one time. Sadly, through secularisation, Europe has lost touch with it's true-self and is now a nihilistic shadow of filth.

Poland is not and has never been a Christian theocracy so it's absurd to go straight to Christianity as THE foundation of Poland.

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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:49 am

Genivaria wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:The values of upholding god's law upon the land, defending Christianity against all enemies, to enforces what the bible says. All of Europe was founded upon this at one time. Sadly, through secularisation, Europe has lost touch with it's true-self and is now a nihilistic shadow of filth.

Poland is not and has never been a Christian theocracy so it's absurd to go straight to Christianity as THE foundation of Poland.

One can't deny that Poland as a nation-state has a very very obvious Christian heritage though. One that's bolder and more obvious than most other states in modern Europe.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:50 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Meligoland wrote:poland really is one of the best countries in Europe

Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

I don't know why the far-right wants to turn eastern Europe into some Catholic version of Iran.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:53 am

Genivaria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

I don't know why the far-right wants to turn eastern Europe into some Catholic version of Iran.

I'm sure the elite in those movements don't always follow their faux moralism either.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:53 am

Genivaria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because they want to outlaw people doing what they want in their own bedroom?

I don't know why the far-right wants to turn eastern Europe into some Catholic version of Iran.

I just want the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and being nice to my people to come back.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:57 am

North German Realm wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Poland is not and has never been a Christian theocracy so it's absurd to go straight to Christianity as THE foundation of Poland.

One can't deny that Poland as a nation-state has a very very obvious Christian heritage though. One that's bolder and more obvious than most other states in modern Europe.

Perhaps once, but Poland's experiences over the last 200 years are rather traumatizing, from occupation by Austria, Germany, and Russia before WW1, of sudden independence, of being subjected to the Holocaust, German occupation, partition between Germany and the Soviets and then subjugation under communism.

Ancient history is important, but so is recent history.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:00 am

Genivaria wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:The values of upholding god's law upon the land, defending Christianity against all enemies, to enforces what the bible says. All of Europe was founded upon this at one time. Sadly, through secularisation, Europe has lost touch with it's true-self and is now a nihilistic shadow of filth.

Poland is not and has never been a Christian theocracy so it's absurd to go straight to Christianity as THE foundation of Poland.


Christianity has been essential to the construction of Polish culture & identity for hundreds of years and this strong merger of religion and nationalism can still be observed today.
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