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Could eldtrich abominations exist?

No, they definitely don't
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They probably don't but I can't rule it out
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They probably do exist but maybe they don't
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They definitely exist and I'm in fear for my life
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Fire the space nukes
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:59 pm

Aclion wrote:Well we are probably eldritch abominations by the standard of most life on earth. It would be the height of arrogance to assume that there's nothing that can put us in the same place that we put ants.

Daarwyrth wrote:What does fascinate me about subjects like these is that humans always think up of such things as something terrible , bad and evil. It begs the question whether it reveals more about us than any other lifeform.

If there were such a creature out there, I'd prefer to think of it as something good, or at least, not an abomination. I'd prefer to see it as a creature whose knowledge and curiosity are never sated, who studies planets from afar but never interferes or destroys. I'd prefer to see it as something that has seen so much empty space in the universe that it values life beyond anything and would never seek to destroy it or harm it. But study its enigma instead.

Eldritch abomination aren't always, or even usually evil. Just scary, because you're dealing with an entity that views you as an ant, if it recognizes you at all, and certainly doesn't see you as an equal, or even as intelligent..


As I said before, imagine a giant monster travelling through space and it accidentally smashes earth like a dust speck
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Postby Nakena » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:28 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Aclion wrote:Well we are probably eldritch abominations by the standard of most life on earth. It would be the height of arrogance to assume that there's nothing that can put us in the same place that we put ants.


Eldritch abomination aren't always, or even usually evil. Just scary, because you're dealing with an entity that views you as an ant, if it recognizes you at all, and certainly doesn't see you as an equal, or even as intelligent..


As I said before, imagine a giant monster travelling through space and it accidentally smashes earth like a dust speck


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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:38 pm

I mean, a gamma ray burst or supernova could wipe us all out with zero warning. So there's that.

I wouldn't waste too much time stressing about giant monsters rising up from the sea though. Unless you're a film critic.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:41 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:I mean, a gamma ray burst or supernova could wipe us all out with zero warning. So there's that.

I wouldn't waste too much time stressing about giant monsters rising up from the sea though. Unless you're a film critic.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:02 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
As I said before, imagine a giant monster travelling through space and it accidentally smashes earth like a dust speck

then it has some pretty shitty aim. if i can avoid stepping on ant hills when i walk then it can avoid earth.


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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I don't think a creature like this would be something that's looking for an invitation to a Barbecue. Unless it's a barbecue of planet Earth with a side of humans.


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That's only because humans invented the idea of that creature, and have thus given it the instincts and behaviors of Earth animals, as that's all we know.

But the problem is, is that it ain't from Earth.

If there’s complex life elsewhere in the universe then animalistic instinct likely isn’t something that’s exclusive to life on Earth, and if there’s intelligent life elsewhere in the universe then malevolence likely wouldn’t be exclusive to Earth either.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:23 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's only because humans invented the idea of that creature, and have thus given it the instincts and behaviors of Earth animals, as that's all we know.

But the problem is, is that it ain't from Earth.

If there’s complex life elsewhere in the universe then animalistic instinct likely isn’t something that’s exclusive to life on Earth, and if there’s intelligent life elsewhere in the universe then malevolence likely wouldn’t be exclusive to Earth either.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:26 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:All hail The Great Spaghetti Monster. Something like this has absolutely no use for humans. We are interesting chimps to a creature like this, curiosities, little more. If we do something bizarre and strange like blow up a nuke on the moon, we might attract its attention for a bit, but why would we? Leave it alone and don't try and attract strangeness.


I doubt a nuke would interest it. We are talking about creatures that span galaxies filled with exploding stars.
The idea that we are of any interest to such a being is.. well... rather arrogant ;)
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:36 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:If there’s complex life elsewhere in the universe then animalistic instinct likely isn’t something that’s exclusive to life on Earth, and if there’s intelligent life elsewhere in the universe then malevolence likely wouldn’t be exclusive to Earth either.

How do you know that?

If there are alien animals on a distant planet somewhere or free floating among the stars then it’s logical to assume that they would do similar things Earth animals do like consume things as food to provide themselves with energy and procreate (in one way or another) to continue their species, there’s no reason to believe otherwise.
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Postby Page » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:45 am

To me, the possibility of us ever encountering an eldtritch abomination is dependent on this question: Can light speed be exceeded? If there is no way that even the most technologically advanced or powerful beings can travel faster than light, if there is no way to circumvent this, if wormholes aren't real, if there is no sort of hyperspace or warp or some kind of dimension one can pass through, if it is physically impossible to create a warp drive, etc., then I think we are safe from aliens and eldtritch abominations. In my opinion this is probably the answer to the Fermi Paradox. There could be thousands of alien civilizations in our galaxy, even some in our neighborhood, but the impossibility of FTL means we will never encounter one another even if our civilizations persist for millions of years.

On the other hand, if FTL is possible, either via technology or because there are beings from other dimensions not bound to the laws of physics of our observable universe, then we may very well meet our doom at the hands of a powerful race or entity.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:49 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
New haven america wrote:How do you know that?

If there are alien animals on a distant planet somewhere or free floating among the stars then it’s logical to assume that they would do similar things Earth animals do like consume things as food to provide themselves with energy and procreate (in one way or another) to continue their species, there’s no reason to believe otherwise.

No it's not, because they're not from Earth.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:14 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
New haven america wrote:How do you know that?

If there are alien animals on a distant planet somewhere or free floating among the stars then it’s logical to assume that they would do similar things Earth animals do like consume things as food to provide themselves with energy and procreate (in one way or another) to continue their species, there’s no reason to believe otherwise.


You're wrong.

Life on Earth behaves like it does because it envolved under the specific circumstances that Earth provides. Life that evolves on a different planet will have completely different circumstances and therefore never can be the same as on Earth. Say that the atmosphere composition will be completely different, that already will be a gigantic factor that will influence the life evolving on that planet differently than on Earth.

We assume life elsewhere will be similar to life on Earth because it's all we know. Until we encounter something completely different, our minds cannot fathom a different form of life than what we know here. But just because we can't think of it doesn't meant it can't exist. The universe is not humanocentric and to think that the cosmos works as humans have deduced it does is folly.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:34 am

Probably not because the universe is way, way less interesting than we make it out to be.

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Postby Mettaton-EX » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:58 am

Daarwyrth wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Everybody's gangster till you need a space fleet and the alien can just fly around by itself in space and destroy planets


But why would it destroy planets? Why wouldn't it be simply studying planets from afar? A creature capable of living in the vacuum of space, or entity might be a better word, would likely understand the uniqueness of life. Surrounded by the vast emptiness of space, it likely wouldn't be so careless to destroy a planet full of life on a whim.


why do almost all humans routinely destroy entire ecosystems that spring up when we leave our leftovers in the fridge for too long? don't we recognize the uniqueness of life?
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Cekoviu wrote:Cthulhu is a qtπ, just sayin'.

glad someone has taste around here
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:39 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Cthulhu is a qtπ, just sayin'.

glad someone has taste around here

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Fartsniffage wrote:...Pretty sure this belongs in the Trump thread. :p


Literally the first fucking post I don't believe it.

Is it really that hard not talk about him even when it's for something completely unrelated? Jesus fucking Christ.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:09 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:...Pretty sure this belongs in the Trump thread. :p


Literally the first fucking post I don't believe it.

Is it really that hard not talk about him even when it's for something completely unrelated? Jesus fucking Christ.


I'm seeing him everywhere now due both to his fans and foes. It's like saddam Hussein Iraq where broski's face was all over
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Postby The Eldritch Abomination » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:56 am

Rojava Free State wrote:As a pretty ardent atheist, I don't really concern myself with religious dogma or beliefs. I tend to view the major monotheistic religions of the world as tyrannical and oppressive and think the morality of their God is deeply flawed and horrific. I have more of a soft spot for eastern religions such as buddhism, but overall it's pretty clear I'm no fan of religion. While I and my closest friend all but discount the existence of the biblical God, one thing we have debated time and time again is the possibility of there being a god-like entity out there somewhere in the universe. However, this being would likely be nothing like our conception of "god," in the sense of wouldn't be omnipresent or the creator of reality itself, but compared to puny mankind, it would be of a divine nature. It's power could destroy an entire world in seconds. It's very presence could drive a person insane. Behold, the concept of the eldtritch abomination, developed by cosmic horror writers such as Hp Lovecraft.

The question is, could such a being exist? Might there be a creature out there in the universe that is so utterly powerful and downright horrifying, it might bring about the apocalypse simply due to its discovery alone? How would your life change upon realizing that such an all powerful creature was out there? Do you ever even for a moment worry about such a thing happening? I don't worry myself all that much over it, but I don't discount that a powerful life form could exist out there in space and that if we discovered it,or it discovered us, it could bring about the end of our society. Let me know your thoughts below.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:10 am

The Eldritch Abomination wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:As a pretty ardent atheist, I don't really concern myself with religious dogma or beliefs. I tend to view the major monotheistic religions of the world as tyrannical and oppressive and think the morality of their God is deeply flawed and horrific. I have more of a soft spot for eastern religions such as buddhism, but overall it's pretty clear I'm no fan of religion. While I and my closest friend all but discount the existence of the biblical God, one thing we have debated time and time again is the possibility of there being a god-like entity out there somewhere in the universe. However, this being would likely be nothing like our conception of "god," in the sense of wouldn't be omnipresent or the creator of reality itself, but compared to puny mankind, it would be of a divine nature. It's power could destroy an entire world in seconds. It's very presence could drive a person insane. Behold, the concept of the eldtritch abomination, developed by cosmic horror writers such as Hp Lovecraft.

The question is, could such a being exist? Might there be a creature out there in the universe that is so utterly powerful and downright horrifying, it might bring about the apocalypse simply due to its discovery alone? How would your life change upon realizing that such an all powerful creature was out there? Do you ever even for a moment worry about such a thing happening? I don't worry myself all that much over it, but I don't discount that a powerful life form could exist out there in space and that if we discovered it,or it discovered us, it could bring about the end of our society. Let me know your thoughts below.

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/thread right there folks. The abomination has spoken and considering its lack of actual care and indifference to mankind, this is probably just a factual statement
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nolo gap » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:15 am

abomination is defined by personal prejudice,
but we are all in danger of the harm that is caused,
by ignorant hatred of logic.

bear in mind that selfish logic is illogical,
because we all have to live in the same kind of world we all create by how we live in it.

the unknown being unknown does not stop anything from existing,
so sure, there's more things exist then ever all of us together, any of us, any future any of anything self aware,
well ever individually know,

so fine, but danger, statistically, what we take for granted out of familairity, is 99.999999999... you get the idea,
is more dangerous then everything we know nothing about, however daunting or embarassing ignorance might be to the ego.

so go ahead and believe anything you can imagine,
just remember that whatever you do,
there are infinity minus one, other possibilities just as likely,
none of them owe anything to anything people tell each other,
and goodness and the desire to be feared, are absolute binary opposites.

billions of things that are neither physical nor imaginary might exist,
but there's absolutely no point, and nothing to be gained,
by worrying about them.

and again, whatever they might do,
its on us, what we do,
and how everything that we do,
affects each other.

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Postby The Eldritch Abomination » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:22 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:OP, stop reading scary stories

There are no monsters under the bed, just like there are no Eldritch Abominations in this universe

Few, you mean.

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Postby Vivolkha » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:35 am

The limits of an "all-powerful" civilization are still the laws of physics regardless. Hell, we do not even know if FTL travel is possible in the first place, and if it is not our possibilities of direct contact with any extraterrestrial creature in the Universe would be severely limited.
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Postby The Eldritch Abomination » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:56 am

Aclion wrote:Well we are probably eldritch abominations by the standard of most life on earth. It would be the height of arrogance to assume that there's nothing that can put us in the same place that we put ants.

One of us is, for sure.

Aclion wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:What does fascinate me about subjects like these is that humans always think up of such things as something terrible , bad and evil. It begs the question whether it reveals more about us than any other lifeform.

If there were such a creature out there, I'd prefer to think of it as something good, or at least, not an abomination. I'd prefer to see it as a creature whose knowledge and curiosity are never sated, who studies planets from afar but never interferes or destroys. I'd prefer to see it as something that has seen so much empty space in the universe that it values life beyond anything and would never seek to destroy it or harm it. But study its enigma instead.

Eldritch abomination aren't always, or even usually evil. Just scary, because you're dealing with an entity that views you as an ant, if it recognizes you at all, and certainly doesn't see you as an equal, or even as intelligent..

We don't necessarily have the same morality as you either, or any morality at all, and is an uncaring entity good or evil?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am

I'm sad that I'm the only one who voted that they definitely exist.
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