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Postby US-SSR » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Meligoland wrote:
US-SSR wrote:Not unlike Trump, Bloomberg is jealous.

what exactly is it that compels you to mention trump in every thread?


Because Trump, and Trump's chaotic, venal, amoral, anti-American, anti-small-d-democratic policies, are the Enablers-in-Chief for:

plutocrats suggesting those like Xi and the Chinese Communist Party exercise something less than dictatorial control over the Chinese people

isolationists eager to throw the Syrian Kurds under the Turkish bus (because Trump Towers Istanbul)

conspiracy theorists who think the story of the 2016 election was Ukrainian interference on behalf of Hillary and those giving Putin a free hand in Russia's "near abroad"

haemmoraghing US prestige and influence in the Middle East, Europe, the Korean penninsula, South Asia, Venezuela and around the world

to the point where NBA players with Chinese shoe endorsements can support Beijing vis-a-vis Hong Kong with zero fear of repercussions

unless something changes, and that soon, America's days as a world power are numbered.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:52 pm

Corporate neoliberal globalist admires Chinese authoritarianism and wishes to import it here? Color me shocked.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:52 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Meligoland wrote:what exactly is it that compels you to mention trump in every thread?


Because Trump, and Trump's chaotic, venal, amoral, anti-American, anti-small-d-democratic policies, are the Enablers-in-Chief for:

plutocrats suggesting those like Xi and the Chinese Communist Party exercise something less than dictatorial control over the Chinese people

isolationists eager to throw the Syrian Kurds under the Turkish bus (because Trump Towers Istanbul)

conspiracy theorists who think the story of the 2016 election was Ukrainian interference on behalf of Hillary and those giving Putin a free hand in Russia's "near abroad"

haemmoraghing US prestige and influence in the Middle East, Europe, the Korean penninsula, South Asia, Venezuela and around the world

to the point where NBA players with Chinese shoe endorsements can support Beijing vis-a-vis Hong Kong with zero fear of repercussions

unless something changes, and that soon, America's days as a world power are numbered.


Trump is such an enabler of Xi that his trade war is trashing China's economy.

Also when has the US ever had "prestige" (whatever that means) int he Middle East since 2003?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:54 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
Because Trump, and Trump's chaotic, venal, amoral, anti-American, anti-small-d-democratic policies, are the Enablers-in-Chief for:

plutocrats suggesting those like Xi and the Chinese Communist Party exercise something less than dictatorial control over the Chinese people

isolationists eager to throw the Syrian Kurds under the Turkish bus (because Trump Towers Istanbul)

conspiracy theorists who think the story of the 2016 election was Ukrainian interference on behalf of Hillary and those giving Putin a free hand in Russia's "near abroad"

haemmoraghing US prestige and influence in the Middle East, Europe, the Korean penninsula, South Asia, Venezuela and around the world

to the point where NBA players with Chinese shoe endorsements can support Beijing vis-a-vis Hong Kong with zero fear of repercussions

unless something changes, and that soon, America's days as a world power are numbered.


Trump is such an enabler of Xi that his trade war is trashing China's economy.

Also when has the US ever had "prestige" (whatever that means) int he Middle East since 2003?

Have to wonder what Donny did for China to get all those juicy patents for darling Ivanka.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:00 pm

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Did anyone not expect this?

Libertarians didn't...


Any remaining libertarians that didn't get redpilled post-Ron Paul are useless or rebranded neocons.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:01 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Lucid waters and lush mountains are invaluable assets. Long live Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era!


Maybe it's just because it sounds weird in English but there's no way Chinese people take an ideology actually called "Xi Jingping Thought" seriously. Again, maybe it sounds better in Chinese?
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Postby Sundiata » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:20 pm

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Postby Flawless Walruses » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:17 pm

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Postby Yuyencia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:37 am

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Postby Bolivarian Amerikwa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:09 am

US-SSR wrote:isolationists eager to throw the Syrian Kurds under the Turkish bus (because Trump Towers Istanbul)

...

unless something changes, and that soon, America's days as a world power are numbered.


The Kurds are a bunch of highland nomads who couldn't take and hold a city from Jihadists properly without the US bombing said jihadists to pieces prior. They are also literally communists. The Turks, on the other hand, have a long history of successful power projection in the region and are a part of NATO.

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Postby Flawless Walruses » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:26 am

Bolivarian Amerikwa wrote:
US-SSR wrote:isolationists eager to throw the Syrian Kurds under the Turkish bus (because Trump Towers Istanbul)

...

unless something changes, and that soon, America's days as a world power are numbered.


The Kurds are a bunch of highland nomads who couldn't take and hold a city from Jihadists properly without the US bombing said jihadists to pieces prior. They are also literally communists. The Turks, on the other hand, have a long history of successful power projection in the region and are a part of NATO.


^ This

The YPD leaders have all worked for Assad, even several years into the civil war. And they'll drop their American flags and re-embrace Assad within ten minutes of the last US helicopter leaving Syrian airspace. There'll be some tension with Ergodan, but money will change hands, lines will be drawn and redrawn, and Syria will go back to a normal level of being Syria.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:40 am

Xi's not a dictator, he's just the guy in charge who tells everyone what to do, and could tell them to do pretty much anything, but not literally anything because some other powerful people in China might replace him if he started messing with their interests too much.

You know. A dictator.


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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Lucid waters and lush mountains are invaluable assets. Long live Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era!


Maybe it's just because it sounds weird in English but there's no way Chinese people take an ideology actually called "Xi Jingping Thought" seriously. Again, maybe it sounds better in Chinese?

What's so strange about an ideology being named after a person? You never heard of Reagonomics?
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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:43 am

Ethel mermania wrote:He is not a dictator, he is the head of an oligarchy.

This.

Same for Kimmie the Third, by the way.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:45 am

Ifreann wrote:Xi's not a dictator, he's just the guy in charge who tells everyone what to do, and could tell them to do pretty much anything, but not literally anything because some other powerful people in China might replace him if he started messing with their interests too much.

You know. A dictator.


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Maybe it's just because it sounds weird in English but there's no way Chinese people take an ideology actually called "Xi Jingping Thought" seriously. Again, maybe it sounds better in Chinese?

What's so strange about an ideology being named after a person? You never heard of Reagonomics?

There's a lot more examples of ideologies or political stances. Marxism, Gaullism, Bolivarianism, Blairism.

There's actually a list right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ideologies_named_after_people
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Postby Bolivarian Amerikwa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:00 am

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The YPD leaders have all worked for Assad

Okay, hold your horses, a bunch of ISIS people worked for Saddam too.
The Middle East is all over the place.
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Postby James_xenoland » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:57 am

Bloomberg is a fucking wannabe totalitarian nitwit of the highest order.. How is anybody surprised by this?!
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Postby Beggnig » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:07 am

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Postby Neko-koku » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:06 am

Apparently dogs are not animals if Xi isn't a dictator.
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Postby Sangamonia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:12 pm

Gonna be fun to watch all the Dengists keep trying to insist the PRC is still socialist after it gets defended by a literal capitalist billionaire.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:19 pm

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Looking at the thread, and knowing the people who generally defend Xi, it would seem that people on the right are just as quick to defend him, especially as it relates to "authoritarian governance" and the situation with the Uyghurs.

Just sayin'.


Is everyone forgetting that trump congratulated China for 70 years of communism?


No, but Trump was never principled or ideologically consistent anyway.

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Postby Vetalia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:28 pm

Risottia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:He is not a dictator, he is the head of an oligarchy.

This.

Same for Kimmie the Third, by the way.


I think the criterion for dictator vs. oligarch is whether the dictator can kill or otherwise dispose of anyone else below them. E.g. Stalin, Hitler, Macias Nguema...dictators. Brezhnev or Deng? Not so much.

Also lol, I thought your sig said "Stalinist through and through". I thought that was quite a bold, uncompromising statement of your political beliefs.
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Postby James_xenoland » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm

Sangamonia wrote:Gonna be fun to watch all the Dengists keep trying to insist the PRC is still socialist after it gets defended by a literal capitalist billionaire.

No, this is just what you get when you try. As per the norm seen time and time and time again.. Not that what it is is any more capitalist than it is communist(*theory*). Either way.. what it is is a leftist totalitarian police state at all levels... economic included.
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James_xenoland wrote:
Sangamonia wrote:Gonna be fun to watch all the Dengists keep trying to insist the PRC is still socialist after it gets defended by a literal capitalist billionaire.

No, this is just what you get when you try. As per the norm seen time and time and time again.. Not that what it is is any more capitalist than it is communist(*theory*). Either way.. what it is is a leftist totalitarian police state at all levels... economic included.

I would recommend actually reading some political theory.
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Postby James_xenoland » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:31 pm

Kowani wrote:
James_xenoland wrote:No, this is just what you get when you try. As per the norm seen time and time and time again.. Not that what it is is any more capitalist than it is communist(*theory*). Either way.. what it is is a leftist totalitarian police state at all levels... economic included.

I would recommend actually reading some political theory.

And I would recommend actually reading some political history.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:33 pm

James_xenoland wrote:
Kowani wrote:I would recommend actually reading some political theory.

And I would recommend actually reading some political history.

Oh, I have. Calling China leftist makes about as much sense as calling Babylon leftist.
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