Matt Bevin and bring your bible to school

[The Wasatch]

There are plenty of religious left wingers. It is a mischaracterization to associate religion simply with the right wing. Conservatives just tend to be more likely to assert religion into government.

I'm not associating the too.. or was the comma not enough? I'm not attacking you, but I'm asking a grammar question. Would a semicolon have been better? .. probably. Anyway, I hope I clarified that for you. On a personal note, I'm often placed on a political compass somewhere in the range of being center-left.

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You are aware that the US constitution holds true even at the state level through the 14th amendment right? The US Supreme Court has repeatedly held this to be true

I am. By all means, refer to my last post; if you feel so strongly about this topic send a lawsuit through the court system and put a stop to it. That's one reason why the judicial branch exists. Maybe you'll succeed, or maybe you won't. I'm not a fortune teller so may god be with you and good luck if you choose to do it.

Ok. I apologize if I mischaracterized your argument.

[Hakons]

Perhaps a borderline case, but come on, be a little less fragile about your secularism. An elected official encouraging kids to bring Bibles to school doesn't really do all that much, and doesn't break the 1st amendment. He's not forcing people to read the Bible or forcing people to bring Bibles, just giving his opinion on the matter. It was a social media video.

[Kaystein]

...I am unsure what the point of your response to me is. This is a discussion forum, where you know we discuss things. Also if you where aware that the US constitution applies, why did laugh about me mentioning the US constitution?

EDIT: But try searching through this.

[The Wasatch]

Perhaps a borderline case, but come on, be a little less fragile about your secularism. An elected official encouraging kids to bring Bibles to school doesn't really do all that much, and doesn't break the 1st amendment. He's not forcing people to read the Bible or forcing people to bring Bibles, just giving his opinion on the matter.

How would you feel if an elected official used an official platform to promote their atheist views? Would it not trouble you? Using an official government platform to promote a religious ideology is unconstitutional.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Perhaps a borderline case, but come on, be a little less fragile about your secularism. An elected official encouraging kids to bring Bibles to school doesn't really do all that much, and doesn't break the 1st amendment. He's not forcing people to read the Bible or forcing people to bring Bibles, just giving his opinion on the matter.

How would you feel if an elected official used an official platform to promote their atheist views? Would it not trouble you? Using an official government platform to promote a religious ideology is unconstitutional.

Is his twitter account an official platform?

[Hakons]

Perhaps a borderline case, but come on, be a little less fragile about your secularism. An elected official encouraging kids to bring Bibles to school doesn't really do all that much, and doesn't break the 1st amendment. He's not forcing people to read the Bible or forcing people to bring Bibles, just giving his opinion on the matter.

How would you feel if an elected official used an official platform to promote their atheist views? Would it not trouble you? Using an official government platform to promote a religious ideology is unconstitutional.

I would vote against him or her. Elected officials can talk about religion. This is before we get into why the heck religion is a big no no, but politics and philosophy aren't. If elected officials are supposed to be "neutral" figures, they shouldn't be able to promote any political philosophy or any idea where there is disagreement.

[The Wasatch]

How would you feel if an elected official used an official platform to promote their atheist views? Would it not trouble you? Using an official government platform to promote a religious ideology is unconstitutional.

Is his twitter account an official platform?

In most cases, they are.

[US-SSR]

Not only should they bring Christian Bibles to school, they should be made to read them. Actually reading the Christian Bible has made more atheists than anything else I know of.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Is his twitter account an official platform?

In most cases, they are.

Then we have a bigger fish to fry than some governor talking about bringing bibles to school.

[Kaystein]

How would you feel if an elected official used an official platform to promote their atheist views? Would it not trouble you? Using an official government platform to promote a religious ideology is unconstitutional.

It depends how it's expressed. Like Kentucky's Governor, or the president of the People's Republic of China? One way is simply expressing one's views and encouraging others to participate/share them willingly; the other systematically suppresses, imprisons, and murders people of certain faiths.

[The Wasatch]

In most cases, they are.

Then we have a bigger fish to fry than some governor talking about bringing bibles to school.

Yes. For example, the president's twitter is an official platform.

[Neutraligon]

In most cases, they are.

Then we have a bigger fish to fry than some governor talking about bringing bibles to school.

There is this thing where there are many lawyers and judges and where people can do multiple things at one time.

[Rojava Free State]

Then we have a bigger fish to fry than some governor talking about bringing bibles to school.

Yes. For example, the president's twitter is an official platform.

Remember when he tweeted a quote of some guy basically calling for a civil war if trump is impeached? That's the society we live in and that's the president. I don't care that much about what some governor said about his love for the greatest fantasy novel next to Lord of the rings or the chronicles of narnia. I do care when the president basically says "don't impeach me or I'll kill you."

[The Wasatch]

Yes. For example, the president's twitter is an official platform.

Remember when he tweeted a quote of some guy basically calling for a civil war if trump is impeached? That's the society we live in and that's the president. I don't care that much about what some governor said about his love for the greatest fantasy novel next to Lord of the rings or the chronicles of narnia. I do care when the president basically says "don't impeach me or I'll kill you."

Or the time he tweeted the quote calling himself "like the second coming for the Jews" and the "king of Israel."

[Rojava Free State]

Remember when he tweeted a quote of some guy basically calling for a civil war if trump is impeached? That's the society we live in and that's the president. I don't care that much about what some governor said about his love for the greatest fantasy novel next to Lord of the rings or the chronicles of narnia. I do care when the president basically says "don't impeach me or I'll kill you."

Or the time he tweeted the quote calling himself "like the second coming for the Jews" and the "king of Israel."

He said he was like the second coming of god. I swear trump must slouch all the time because of the weight of his ego.

[The Wasatch]

Or the time he tweeted the quote calling himself "like the second coming for the Jews" and the "king of Israel."

He said he was like the second coming of god. I swear trump must slouch all the time because of the weight of his ego.

So true! Do you remember, "I am the Chosen One?"

[Neutraligon]

If you want to talk about Trump please do so in the right thread (Not acting as a mod)

[The Wasatch]

If you want to talk about Trump please do so in the right thread (Not acting as a mod)

I apologize. I didn't mean to derail.

[The Alma Mater]

I don’t see any laws that promote a single religion anywhere, it seems equal enough

State governor promoting Evangelism in an official capacity isn't promoting a religion to you?

He is not saying people cannot bring their Qu'rans, vedas or gospels of the flying spaghetti monster to school.
Nor did he specify which version of the Bible, so the one where Jesus gives Judas a blowjob during the last orgy is also fine.

So promoting a religion ? Yes. Restricting others ? No.

[Kaystein]

State governor promoting Evangelism in an official capacity isn't promoting a religion to you?

He is not saying people cannot bring their Qu'rans, vedas or gospels of the flying spaghetti monster to school.
Nor did he specify which version of the Bible, so the one where Jesus gives Judas a blowjob during the last orgy is also fine.

[The Federated Soviets of North America]

By no means do i agree with this, but I feel like calling it a 1a violation is a bit of stretch.

[Kowani]

Perhaps a borderline case, but come on, be a little less fragile about your secularism. An elected official encouraging kids to bring Bibles to school doesn't really do all that much, and doesn't break the 1st amendment. He's not forcing people to read the Bible or forcing people to bring Bibles, just giving his opinion on the matter. It was a social media video.

Except it does. It was a social media video in his official capacity.

Now, although I personally don’t draw a line between the personal and the political, the law does. However, the governor was galaxybrained enough to do it in his political capacity.

[The Andromeda Archipelago]

Gov. Matt Bevin recently came out with a video encouraging students to bring their bibles to school for Bring your bible to school day (not a real holiday, something set u by Focus on the Family).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 843477002/

I think this should definitely be considered as against the first amendment, and should be treated as such. I am not sure this is sufficient to impeach the gov, but at the minimum he should pay a fine. Do you think that he violated the first amendment? What do you think should happen if he did?

Is the Kentucky Governor desperate? I know he's not popular, but this blatant pandering to Focus on the Family is just sad.

[Kyria]

Being from the UK, the American obsession with religion, specifically Christianity, utterly bewilders me. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Regardless, I can’t say I’m supportive of this, I hope he is punished. The Bible Belt has enough Christianity as is.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Being from the UK, the American obsession with religion, specifically Christianity, utterly bewilders me. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Regardless, I can’t say I’m supportive of this, I hope he is punished. The Bible Belt has enough Christianity as is.

t. lives in a country with a state religion