Paris Police HQ knife attack

[Loben The 2nd]

Lots of people care about all sorts of things, doesn't mean we should all be forcibly subjected to those things.

Ah yes the horrable subjectation of being safe.

Not haveing you or your property dammaged.

What a evil nightmare.

not being able to defend yourself when your life or property being threatened is a nightmare.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Lots of people care about all sorts of things, doesn't mean we should all be forcibly subjected to those things.

Ah yes the horrable subjectation of being safe.

Not haveing you or your property dammaged.

What a evil nightmare.

I'd hate to think that I was so weak I had to have someone watching me from the big and friendly government at all times.

I'd also hate to think I'd care if something bad happened to me.

[Ifreann]

This guy would have easily killed way more than 4 with a gun, but why ruin a chance to dunk on gun regulation advocates?

Bullshit. He would have killed one, then the alarm would have gone up from shots fired.

Knives are quiet and enable you to maintain the element of surprise like happened here until he was spotted and killed.

As we all know, it's very difficult to use a gun to kill more than one person in quick succession. Almost impossible.

[Kragholm Free States]

I was rather hoping we could talk about whether workplaces are becoming increasingly toxic before we jumped straight into a gun debate.

Where do you think you are?

[Gormwood]

If it bothers you that much go file a report already.

and here i thought i was going to get a lecture on 'concern trolling'.

it doesnt bother me much gauth, but try to be more honest when it comes to naming people.

So you were just virtue signalling. Now that that's out of the way back to topic.

[The Emerald Legion]

Security is unimportant to me. I couldn't care less what the murder rate is.

And where's this social contract? Does it come with a cooling-off period? I don't remember signing.

Kind of implied - seeing as how you've been living off the collective efforts of society's labor. You know, police and military to protect you, environmental regulations to give you clean water and air, roads, electricity, education, food, healthcare, etc.

You know , things you've been utilizing your entire life, and are expected to contribute to.

Course - if you dont like all the prosperity - you're free to leave the social contract. All you gotta do is move out of the country to somewhere with no government

Or find some pals and overthrow it. But that's hard mode on an already hard game.

[Joohan]

Ah yes the horrable subjectation of being safe.

Not haveing you or your property dammaged.

What a evil nightmare.

not being able to defend yourself when your life or property being threatened is a nightmare.

Yeah, that's why the state provides us with the police and military. So that you are defended from those who would do you harm

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Bullshit. He would have killed one, then the alarm would have gone up from shots fired.

Knives are quiet and enable you to maintain the element of surprise like happened here until he was spotted and killed.

As we all know, it's very difficult to use a gun to kill more than one person in quick succession. Almost impossible.

It is if people are in small offices, isolated from anyone else.

To kill the most people, he'd have had to go where a lot of people were. When he did that with his knife he got shot.

[The Emerald Legion]

Bullshit. He would have killed one, then the alarm would have gone up from shots fired.

Knives are quiet and enable you to maintain the element of surprise like happened here until he was spotted and killed.

As we all know, it's very difficult to use a gun to kill more than one person in quick succession. Almost impossible.

In the specific situation where you encounter and kill one person, then have to go elsewhere to encounter and kill another.... Yes. Yes it is hard to kill multiple people in quick succession when only one is present.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

not being able to defend yourself when your life or property being threatened is a nightmare.

Yeah, that's why the state provides us with the police and military. So that you are defended from those who would do you harm

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

[Joohan]

Kind of implied - seeing as how you've been living off the collective efforts of society's labor. You know, police and military to protect you, environmental regulations to give you clean water and air, roads, electricity, education, food, healthcare, etc.

You know , things you've been utilizing your entire life, and are expected to contribute to.

Course - if you dont like all the prosperity - you're free to leave the social contract. All you gotta do is move out of the country to somewhere with no government

Or find some pals and overthrow it. But that's hard mode on an already hard game.

NAP M I L I T A N T S

[Gormwood]

Bullshit. He would have killed one, then the alarm would have gone up from shots fired.

Knives are quiet and enable you to maintain the element of surprise like happened here until he was spotted and killed.

As we all know, it's very difficult to use a gun to kill more than one person in quick succession. Almost impossible.

Having to pour in gunpowder, drop in a bullet, tamp them down...

[The Emerald Legion]

Yeah, that's why the state provides us with the police and military. So that you are defended from those who would do you harm

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

Or simply aren't present. Unless of course you advocate for a big brother police state.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I was rather hoping we could talk about whether workplaces are becoming increasingly toxic before we jumped straight into a gun debate.

Where do you think you are?

In the kitchen.

[Joohan]

Yeah, that's why the state provides us with the police and military. So that you are defended from those who would do you harm

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

Depends. If its warranted harm, like what happened to the knife guy, then screw you buddy.

If its unwarrented, and was at the official behest of the state, then they've violated the social contract and you are free to revolt.

[Gormwood]

Yeah, that's why the state provides us with the police and military. So that you are defended from those who would do you harm

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

You can stop them by waving a gun and yelling "WOLVERIIINES!!"

[Joohan]

As we all know, it's very difficult to use a gun to kill more than one person in quick succession. Almost impossible.

Having to pour in gunpowder, drop in a bullet, tamp them down...

Ever heard of the Trifecta?

[Ors Might]

Security is unimportant to me. I couldn't care less what the murder rate is.

And where's this social contract? Does it come with a cooling-off period? I don't remember signing.

Kind of implied - seeing as how you've been living off the collective efforts of society's labor. You know, police and military to protect you, environmental regulations to give you clean water and air, roads, electricity, education, food, healthcare, etc.

You know , things you've been utilizing your entire life, and are expected to contribute to.

Course - if you dont like all the prosperity - you're free to leave the social contract. All you gotta do is move out of the country to somewhere with no government

Social contract sounds kinda unethical when you put it like that. Certainly wouldn’t hold up in court, which is a delicious irony of it’s own.

[Joohan]

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

Or simply aren't present. Unless of course you advocate for a big brother police state.

I'd hope the state would let us own guns.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Security is unimportant to me. I couldn't care less what the murder rate is.

And where's this social contract? Does it come with a cooling-off period? I don't remember signing.

Kind of implied - seeing as how you've been living off the collective efforts of society's labor. You know, police and military to protect you, environmental regulations to give you clean water and air, roads, electricity, education, food, healthcare, etc.

You know , things you've been utilizing your entire life, and are expected to contribute to.

Course - if you dont like all the prosperity - you're free to leave the social contract. All you gotta do is move out of the country to somewhere with no government

I'll break it down for you:

Police and military: could do without
Environmental protections: just serves to restrain businesses, we're better off without them.
Roads: could be private toll roads
Electricity: already is private
Education: I went to a private school
Food: The days of government-run farming collectives are over, comrade.
Healthcare: I'll never support single-payer. It's terrible and hurts choice.

Got any more? This is fun!

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Ah yes the horrable subjectation of being safe.

Not haveing you or your property dammaged.

What a evil nightmare.

I'd hate to think that I was so weak I had to have someone watching me from the big and friendly government at all times.

I'd also hate to think I'd care if something bad happened to me.

Ah so beacuse you feel weak therefor everyone else doesn't need to be safe. Good logic 10/10 logical debate.

This part of the post is non scarsatic and not trying to poke holes in your arugement or logic, not careing when something bad happens to you is not a normal way to feel. Are you ok? If your not feeling ok please go see a doctor.

[The Emerald Legion]

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

You can stop them by waving a gun and yelling "WOLVERIIINES!!"

You forgot the spray paint.

[Joohan]

Kind of implied - seeing as how you've been living off the collective efforts of society's labor. You know, police and military to protect you, environmental regulations to give you clean water and air, roads, electricity, education, food, healthcare, etc.

You know , things you've been utilizing your entire life, and are expected to contribute to.

Course - if you dont like all the prosperity - you're free to leave the social contract. All you gotta do is move out of the country to somewhere with no government

Social contract sounds kinda unethical when you put it like that. Certainly wouldn’t hold up in court, which is a delicious irony of it’s own.

Sorry bud, court systems are reserved for members of the social contract.

Cause you know, benefitting from the labor of others without contributing anything yourself would be unethical.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What about when the police or military wish to do us harm?

Depends. If its warranted harm, like what happened to the knife guy, then screw you buddy.

If its unwarrented, and was at the official behest of the state, then they've violated the social contract and you are free to revolt.

How do the dead revolt?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I'd hate to think that I was so weak I had to have someone watching me from the big and friendly government at all times.

I'd also hate to think I'd care if something bad happened to me.

Ah so beacuse you feel weak therefor everyone else doesn't need to be safe. Good logic 10/10 logical debate.

This part of the post is non scarsatic and not trying to poke holes in your arugement or logic, not careing when something bad happens to you is not a normal way to feel. Are you ok? If your not feeling ok please go see a doctor.

Did you read my post?

I would hate to think (i.e. I don't) that I felt so weak that I needed somebody from the government protecting me. I don't feel so under threat that I need to be looked out for by a police officer.