Paris Police HQ knife attack

[Risottia]

Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.

Mais... mais... mon deuxiéme avenant!

[Joohan]

Find some other tragic deaths to shitpost about? Maybe there was a car crash recently, you could say we need car control.

Why is it everyone always misses the obvious solution to all of this: death control.

* Police officer kicks in door to hospice ward *

Excuse me old man, I don't suppose you've renewed your

D E A T H L I C E N S E ?

[Risottia]

It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.

I know maybe it's because i'm an American, but that really does just seem ridiculous. I get that knives can be a weapon, but 999 times out of a 1000, it's just an everyday tool.

You need a legal motive and a legal discrimination between legal knives and illegal knives to stop that 1/1000 who walk into a crowded train station with a bloody bayonet for a Mauser Karabiner 1898, while leaving the 999/1000 who are just carrying their Swiss Army knife for their lunch.

[Ifreann]

I know maybe it's because i'm an American, but that really does just seem ridiculous. I get that knives can be a weapon, but 999 times out of a 1000, it's just an everyday tool.

You need a legal motive and a legal discrimination between legal knives and illegal knives to stop that 1/1000 who walk into a crowded train station with a bloody bayonet for a Mauser Karabiner 1898, while leaving the 999/1000 who are just carrying their Swiss Army knife for their lunch.

But I need that bayonet for legitimate reasons!

[Loben The 2nd]

You need a legal motive and a legal discrimination between legal knives and illegal knives to stop that 1/1000 who walk into a crowded train station with a bloody bayonet for a Mauser Karabiner 1898, while leaving the 999/1000 who are just carrying their Swiss Army knife for their lunch.

But I need that bayonet for legitimate reasons!

considering the person carrying it is a private citizen what business is it of the state?

[Ifreann]

But I need that bayonet for legitimate reasons!

considering the person carrying it is a private citizen what business is it of the state?

L'etat, c'est moi.

[Joohan]

But I need that bayonet for legitimate reasons!

considering the person carrying it is a private citizen what business is it of the state?

What the hell is a private citizen? Does the state not have authority over this person? Is there a public citizen in this scenario?

[Loben The 2nd]

considering the person carrying it is a private citizen what business is it of the state?

What the hell is a private citizen? Does the state not have authority over this person? Is there a public citizen in this scenario?

someone who is not in the public sphere.

[Joohan]

What the hell is a private citizen? Does the state not have authority over this person? Is there a public citizen in this scenario?

someone who is not in the public sphere.

so what, like Ted kaczynski? Recluses who live out away from society?

[Loben The 2nd]

someone who is not in the public sphere.

so what, like Ted kaczynski? Recluses who live out away from society?

no.

google is at your finger tips.

[Ifreann]

What the hell is a private citizen? Does the state not have authority over this person? Is there a public citizen in this scenario?

someone who is not in the public sphere.

So you, a private citizen, can roll around with your Seitengewehr freely, but if you get famous and enter the public sphere, you'd have to give it up.

[Joohan]

so what, like Ted kaczynski? Recluses who live out away from society?

no.

google is at your finger tips.

Yeah, and here's what google has to say about the Public Sphere:

" The “public sphere” is generally conceived as the social space in which different opinions are expressed, problems of general concern are discussed, and collective solutions are developed communicatively. Thus, the public sphere is the central arena for societal communication. "

I don't think you had a debate forum in mind when you said public sphere, right? So why don't you actually explain your opinion?

[Loben The 2nd]

someone who is not in the public sphere.

So you, a private citizen, can roll around with your Seitengewehr freely, but if you get famous and enter the public sphere, you'd have to give it up.

personally i'd advocate carrying firearms over knives as they are more effective at range.

and if you hold a public position, arnt there normally a group of people charged with protecting you anyway?

[Loben The 2nd]

no.

google is at your finger tips.

Yeah, and here's what google has to say about the Public Sphere:

" The “public sphere” is generally conceived as the social space in which different opinions are expressed, problems of general concern are discussed, and collective solutions are developed communicatively. Thus, the public sphere is the central arena for societal communication. "

I don't think you had a debate forum in mind when you said public sphere, right? So why don't you actually explain your opinion?

Oh god fucking damn it.
private citizen - a citizen who does not hold any official or public position.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So, when you ban guns you get a big mass shooting, ban knives and get a mass stabbing. Well done France, well done

[Ifreann]

So you, a private citizen, can roll around with your Seitengewehr freely, but if you get famous and enter the public sphere, you'd have to give it up.

personally i'd advocate carrying firearms over knives as they are more effective at range.

and if you hold a public position, arnt there normally a group of people charged with protecting you anyway?

Usually only if you hire them.

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Yeah, and here's what google has to say about the Public Sphere:

" The “public sphere” is generally conceived as the social space in which different opinions are expressed, problems of general concern are discussed, and collective solutions are developed communicatively. Thus, the public sphere is the central arena for societal communication. "

I don't think you had a debate forum in mind when you said public sphere, right? So why don't you actually explain your opinion?

Oh god fucking damn it.
private citizen - a citizen who does not hold any official or public position.

So...disarm the police? Cool.

[Ifreann]

So, when you ban guns you get a big mass shooting, ban knives and get a mass stabbing. Well done France, well done

France hasn't banned knives. I don't think they've banned guns either.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So, when you ban guns you get a big mass shooting, ban knives and get a mass stabbing. Well done France, well done

France hasn't banned knives. I don't think they've banned guns either.

They've banned them to the extent that you can't just go walking down the street with one.

[Loben The 2nd]

personally i'd advocate carrying firearms over knives as they are more effective at range.

and if you hold a public position, arnt there normally a group of people charged with protecting you anyway?

Usually only if you hire them.

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Oh god fucking damn it.
private citizen - a citizen who does not hold any official or public position.

So...disarm the police? Cool.

Cute.

[Ifreann]

France hasn't banned knives. I don't think they've banned guns either.

They've banned them to the extent that you can't just go walking down the street with one.

Exactly, they're not banned.

[Ifreann]

Usually only if you hire them.

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So...disarm the police? Cool.

Cute.

Thanks ^_^

[Joohan]

Yeah, and here's what google has to say about the Public Sphere:

" The “public sphere” is generally conceived as the social space in which different opinions are expressed, problems of general concern are discussed, and collective solutions are developed communicatively. Thus, the public sphere is the central arena for societal communication. "

I don't think you had a debate forum in mind when you said public sphere, right? So why don't you actually explain your opinion?

Oh god fucking damn it.
private citizen - a citizen who does not hold any official or public position.

I didn't know the law only affected politician and state employees.

Silly me

[Loben The 2nd]

They've banned them to the extent that you can't just go walking down the street with one.

Exactly, they're not banned.

just restricted.

which doesnt really solve the problem of violence, if you ask the charlie hebdo crowd or people who were in paris a couple years back.....

[Gormwood]

Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

I mean. Knives already kill more people a year than 'assault weapons' in AMERICA.

This guy would have easily killed way more than 4 with a gun, but why ruin a chance to dunk on gun regulation advocates?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Oh god fucking damn it.
private citizen - a citizen who does not hold any official or public position.

I didn't know the law only affected politician and state employees.

Silly me

It's no business of the state what weaponry anybody is carrying on their person. The state doesn't know their reasoning for it, nor does it need to.