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Postby Gormwood » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:00 pm

Dagnia wrote:
French broadcaster BFM TV said the attacker had converted to Islam 18 months ago.


Six pages in this topic, yet this little fact seems to have escaped people? Somehow I doubt this is a knife problem.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:09 pm

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French broadcaster BFM TV said the attacker had converted to Islam 18 months ago.


Six pages in this topic, yet this little fact seems to have escaped people? Somehow I doubt this is a knife problem.

And I doubt that this is due to Islam since aside from that there is nothing else suggesting that is the case. It is a possibility but unless new facts come out it is just as likely the man was just mentally ill or was politically motivated. The point is we have no proof on the motivation of this man did this and it seems pretty dumb to be saying that it was this or that.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Dagnia wrote:
French broadcaster BFM TV said the attacker had converted to Islam 18 months ago.


Six pages in this topic, yet this little fact seems to have escaped people? Somehow I doubt this is a knife problem.

Tbh I'm waiting for English-language news sources (BBC) to make an update on the motive part, since it hasn't. That's why I'm refraining from posting in this thread before - to see what kind of motive that inspire this attack.

Anyway, condolences to the victims.

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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:29 pm

Andsed wrote:
Dagnia wrote:
Six pages in this topic, yet this little fact seems to have escaped people? Somehow I doubt this is a knife problem.

And I doubt that this is due to Islam since aside from that there is nothing else suggesting that is the case. It is a possibility but unless new facts come out it is just as likely the man was just mentally ill or was politically motivated. The point is we have no proof on the motivation of this man did this and it seems pretty dumb to be saying that it was this or that.

The man was deaf.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:31 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS
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Postby New Sukberia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:34 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS

Quick reminder that the FAMAS is being replaced in the Armed Forces.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS


France has basically the same knife laws that the UK does...

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Postby Risastorstein » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS


The issue isn't really a lack of equipment, since it was a surprise attack from someone working there. So, maybe more security checks at the entrance?...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:51 pm

Risastorstein wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS


The issue isn't really a lack of equipment, since it was a surprise attack from someone working there. So, maybe more security checks at the entrance?...


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Postby Risastorstein » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:05 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:A blade doesn't have to be metal. Of course I forget the other material I have seen.

A full pat down doesn't make for a happy work environment.


Neither does an office turning into a crime scene.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:06 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:A blade doesn't have to be metal. Of course I forget the other material I have seen.

A full pat down doesn't make for a happy work environment.


Neither does an office turning into a crime scene.


It happens. Not always common but it happens.

Still I think you will see people get tired of full pat downs faster then the fear of a possible crime. Especially in a police department.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:53 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter


People control is a better solution.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:54 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:A blade doesn't have to be metal. Of course I forget the other material I have seen.

A full pat down doesn't make for a happy work environment.


Neither does an office turning into a crime scene.


I've worked in offices that were crime scenes.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:55 pm

New Sukberia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS

Quick reminder that the FAMAS is being replaced in the Armed Forces.


Which frees up plenty of available FAMAS for the police.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:20 pm

New Sukberia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS

Quick reminder that the FAMAS is being replaced in the Armed Forces.

Police Nationale isn’t the armed forces last time I checked
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:25 pm

Funny that a criminal didn't abide by the law on two counts:

- You can't carry a knife like that
- And you certainly can't stab people!

Anyone generally calling for knife control as a result of this attack only has to look towards "Great" Britian to see what comes out of it... Two parts of frick all.

What we really need is restrictions on death. If you're legally not allowed to die, then hell, attacks like this won't be so successful.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

France unlike the Authoritarian Isles isn’t going to ban knives. Also guns aren’t banned in France anyway. All this is going to do is increase the amount of police wearing body armor and carrying FAMAS


France is about to have another state of emergency
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:36 pm

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New Sukberia wrote:Quick reminder that the FAMAS is being replaced in the Armed Forces.


Which frees up plenty of available FAMAS for the police.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:18 pm

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Page wrote:I have to admit that being an American, my first thought is "how the fuck does a knife-wielding assailant even get off one stab without having 249 holes put in them in the next half-second?"


This applies in France too, have you seen the firepower they provide their cops?

What firepower do they provide their cops?


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Neither does an office turning into a crime scene.


I've worked in offices that were crime scenes.

I work in a liquor store that's been a crime scene. Several times.


Loben The 2nd wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Which frees up plenty of available FAMAS for the police.


Worn out and nigh irreplaceable.

Break out the ye old M93s.

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Postby Arkhane » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:21 pm

Well none of this would have happened if we banned people from killing each other.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:22 pm

The person ought to have been fired 18 months ago when he converted to Islam for being a security risk. France has fallen far in my view, since the days of Charles Martel. What happened to when the French under the Frankish kingdom knew what to do about invaders and traitors?
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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:23 pm

Saiwania wrote:The person ought to have been fired 18 months ago when he converted to Islam. France has fallen far in my view, since the days of Charles Martel. What happened to when the French under the Frankish kingdom knew what to do about invaders?

How exactly does one converting to Islam make them less fit for working as officer?

Also implying that all Muslims even ones born in France to legal immigrants are “traitors and invaders” is just a whole lot of yikes.
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Postby Pretty Much God » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:24 pm

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Postby Pretty Much God » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:The person ought to have been fired 18 months ago when he converted to Islam for being a security risk. France has fallen far in my view, since the days of Charles Martel. What happened to when the French under the Frankish kingdom knew what to do about invaders and traitors?

I'm sure that once a man converts to Islam, Allah sends down sticks of dynamite and tells them to blow themselves up.

There's a lot of yikes between that really dumb statement and whatever you said about France not being the Frankish Kingdom or whatever.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:31 pm

Saiwania wrote:The person ought to have been fired 18 months ago when he converted to Islam for being a security risk. France has fallen far in my view, since the days of Charles Martel. What happened to when the French under the Frankish kingdom knew what to do about invaders and traitors?


Imagine being so against one middle eastern religion, you reminisce over the good old days when Europeans worshipped another foreign religion from the near east.

If you really wanna be a white nationalist, be an odinist or pagan or something. Be authentically European in culture. Christianity is not european. It's as foreign to Europe as islam. And besides that point, why should being Muslim make one a security risk? Most Muslims are not terrorists and do not intend to be terrorists. This is not my opinion, this is a fact.
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