Paris Police HQ knife attack

[Joohan]

You pay taxes and generally follow the law dont you?

I do. I know damn well not everyone does. I would even go so far as to say the majority don't.

Oh, and how do you know this?

[The Emerald Legion]

I do. I know damn well not everyone does. I would even go so far as to say the majority don't.

Oh, and how do you know this?

Because when you start cutting lawbreakers out of your life in order to get ahead you tend to end up alone.

People are constantly doing drugs, Dodging their taxes, or any number of other things.

[Ifreann]

Absolutely not! Police are needed in some form

Not if everyone is armed.

So it's forcing people to be armed against their will, eh? Very freedom.

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Oh, and how do you know this?

Because when you start cutting lawbreakers out of your life in order to get ahead you tend to end up alone.

People are constantly doing drugs, Dodging their taxes, or any number of other things.

"People are constantly having fun, the profligates"

[The Emerald Legion]

Not if everyone is armed.

So it's forcing people to be armed against their will, eh? Very freedom.

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Because when you start cutting lawbreakers out of your life in order to get ahead you tend to end up alone.

People are constantly doing drugs, Dodging their taxes, or any number of other things.

"People are constantly having fun, the profligates"

Well. I mean. They could also either.

A.) Be defenseless.
B.) Hire people to use guns FOR them.

[Gormwood]

So it's forcing people to be armed against their will, eh? Very freedom.

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"People are constantly having fun, the profligates"

Well. I mean. They could also either.

A.) Be defenseless.
B.) Hire people to use guns FOR them.

Forcing people to be armed and encouraging the use of firearms as the immediate solution to disputes. Very Needful Things of you.

[The Emerald Legion]

Well. I mean. They could also either.

A.) Be defenseless.
B.) Hire people to use guns FOR them.

Forcing people to be armed and encouraging the use of firearms as the immediate solution to disputes. Very Needful Things of you.

I mean. Having police is just that with extra steps.

Might as well cut out the middle man.

[Gormwood]

Forcing people to be armed and encouraging the use of firearms as the immediate solution to disputes. Very Needful Things of you.

I mean. Having police is just that with extra steps.

Might as well cut out the middle man.

No need for a polite society when all you need is to shoot everyone else first.

[Telconi]

I have to admit that being an American, my first thought is "how the fuck does a knife-wielding assailant even get off one stab without having 249 holes put in them in the next half-second?"

This applies in France too, have you seen the firepower they provide their cops?

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean. Having police is just that with extra steps.

Might as well cut out the middle man.

No need for a polite society when all you need is to shoot everyone else first.

I mean. I feel like society would be more polite. Not less.

[Andsed]

Forcing people to be armed and encouraging the use of firearms as the immediate solution to disputes. Very Needful Things of you.

I mean. Having police is just that with extra steps.

Might as well cut out the middle man.

No it’s not. It is removing any possibility for regulation of those who “enforce” the law and letting anyone with a gun do whatever they want. So yeah pretty bad idea.

[Telconi]

I mean. Having police is just that with extra steps.

Might as well cut out the middle man.

No it’s not. It is removing any possibility for regulation of those who “enforce” the law and letting anyone with a gun do whatever they want. So yeah pretty bad idea.

How are unpaid normal folks categorically less regulatable than paid cops?

[Andsed]

No it’s not. It is removing any possibility for regulation of those who “enforce” the law and letting anyone with a gun do whatever they want. So yeah pretty bad idea.

How are unpaid normal folks categorically less regulatable than paid cops?

Several ways. There is the fact that law enforcement is not their job and thus they cannot be fired. Also they can’t be arrested since in this fever dream the cops are not here.

[The Black Forrest]

Absolutely not! Police are needed in some form

Not if everyone is armed.

Hmmmm. Road rage, bar fights, drunken sports games, office rage, marital rage, etc., will get more interesting.

[Gormwood]

Not if everyone is armed.

Hmmmm. Road rage, bar fights, drunken sports games, office rage, marital rage, etc., will get more interesting.

Call of Duty and Fortnite become instruction manuals for real life.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not if everyone is armed.

Hmmmm. Road rage, bar fights, drunken sports games, office rage, marital rage, etc., will get more interesting.

I mean. They already do. My Uncle was killed in a bar fight a few years back.

[Gormwood]

Hmmmm. Road rage, bar fights, drunken sports games, office rage, marital rage, etc., will get more interesting.

I mean. They already do. My Uncle was killed in a bar fight a few years back.

Going to say he should have had a gun?

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

If we get rid of knives, these attacks won't happen. Heavily regulate them so that only chefs can wield knives.

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean. They already do. My Uncle was killed in a bar fight a few years back.

Going to say he should have had a gun?

He had one. He shouldn't have been drinking.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.

Not imo. If you catch any group of people off-guard enough, you'll always be able to be fairly effective. That's why I don't think these mass killings where people aren't concerned with their own safety can possibly be stopped. If your goal is just to kill as many people as possible without regard to your own survival, there's actually very little someone can do short of just straight up shooting you, and in Europe or even in confined spaces here in the US that's going to be a problem. Imo, that a police station was unprepared for this kind of attack is just confirmation of what historical accounts of battlefield actions confirm: that assailants unconcerned with their own life are shockingly effective at inflicting casualties on even well-prepared people.

[The Black Forrest]

If we get rid of knives, these attacks won't happen. Heavily regulate them so that only chefs can wield knives.

Oh how I missed shit posting. It's been what? Ten minutes?

[Gormwood]

If we get rid of knives, these attacks won't happen. Heavily regulate them so that only chefs can wield knives.

More dunks than an NBA contest here.

[Major-Tom]

If we get rid of knives, these attacks won't happen. Heavily regulate them so that only chefs can wield knives.

Agreed, if you want to, say, butter your toast, you're gonna have to use a spoon.

[Holy Tedalonia]

If we get rid of knives, these attacks won't happen. Heavily regulate them so that only chefs can wield knives.

More dunks than an NBA contest here.

I prefer my kitchen knifes, thank you. Lets me make well made food.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

More dunks than an NBA contest here.

I prefer my kitchen knifes, thank you. Lets me make well made food.

What if a child gets access to those knives?

[Dagnia]

French broadcaster BFM TV said the attacker had converted to Islam 18 months ago.

Six pages in this topic, yet this little fact seems to have escaped people? Somehow I doubt this is a knife problem.