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Paris Police HQ knife attack

Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:04 am

Four people have been killed in a knife attack on the Police HQ in Paris.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-franc ... WI16U?il=0

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/49921145

"A knife-wielding man has killed four officers at central police headquarters in Paris, French media report.

The attacker, who has not been named but is said to be a member of staff, was later shot dead by police.

There has been no official statement so far. The area in the île de la Cité - in the centre of Paris - has been sealed off.

The attack comes a day after police went on strike across France over increasing violence towards officers.

It happened at about 13:00 local time (11:00 GMT; 12:00 BST) in the courtyard of the building.

French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and Interior Minister Christophe Castaner are both at the scene."

Looks like it was a disgruntled employee rather than a terrorist attack. I might have disagreed vehemently with some of my colleagues, but I never felt that such disagreements were even close to making me want to kill them and get shot dead myself. It's an attitude I find hard to understand, work was never that serious a thing.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:08 am

Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:10 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter


I mean. Knives already kill more people a year than 'assault weapons' in AMERICA.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:11 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter


I mean. Knives already kill more people a year than 'assault weapons' in AMERICA.


In 2018, half the people killed in Ypsilanti where I lived at the time were killed by knife wielding assailants
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:12 am

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:16 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


What are we going to do now then?
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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:19 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


What are we going to do now then?

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:19 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


What are we going to do now then?

Given that this was an inside job? Not much. There isn't much that can be done when a member of staff goes rogue.
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:20 am

I have to admit that being an American, my first thought is "how the fuck does a knife-wielding assailant even get off one stab without having 249 holes put in them in the next half-second?"
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:21 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


What are we going to do now then?

Find some other tragic deaths to shitpost about? Maybe there was a car crash recently, you could say we need car control.

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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
What are we going to do now then?

Find some other tragic deaths to shitpost about? Maybe there was a car crash recently, you could say we need car control.

He was expecting le epic own on the leftist because leftists MUST be in favour of draconian state intervention
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:23 am

Alexiandra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Find some other tragic deaths to shitpost about? Maybe there was a car crash recently, you could say we need car control.

He was expecting le epic own on the leftist because leftists MUST be in favour of draconian state intervention


Liberals, not leftists. I'm a leftist
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:24 am

Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:25 am

Given how the French Police are about as militarized as the Americans, this is surprising and shocking.

Either way, I feel sorry for all involved and wish them the best.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.

Element of surprise. All the security there is probably aimed outward.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.


must be a quota system of sorts.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:29 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.

There must have been some unique circumstances to this case. He might have sneaked up behind them when they weren't paying attention, and it's entirely possible to inflict eventually fatal bleedout wounds on multiple unprepared people in a matter of seconds.
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Postby Joohan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:31 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter


The most British thing i've heard all morning.
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Postby Joohan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Guess it's time for knife control. You'll need a permit for a box cutter

It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


I know maybe it's because i'm an American, but that really does just seem ridiculous. I get that knives can be a weapon, but 999 times out of a 1000, it's just an everyday tool.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:42 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Pretty shocking that he managed to kill 4 people before getting stopped at a police HQ.

There must have been some unique circumstances to this case. He might have sneaked up behind them when they weren't paying attention, and it's entirely possible to inflict eventually fatal bleedout wounds on multiple unprepared people in a matter of seconds.

French broadcaster BFMTV reports that he stabbed two people inside two offices, one person on a stairway and the fourth person inside the building's courtyard - where the knifeman was shot dead.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 am

Joohan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's already illegal to carry a knife with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, on your person in France, unless for a good reason, and the authorities can designate any knife a prohibited weapon and confiscate it.


I know maybe it's because i'm an American, but that really does just seem ridiculous. I get that knives can be a weapon, but 999 times out of a 1000, it's just an everyday tool.


Not to mention basically unenforceable.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:There must have been some unique circumstances to this case. He might have sneaked up behind them when they weren't paying attention, and it's entirely possible to inflict eventually fatal bleedout wounds on multiple unprepared people in a matter of seconds.

French broadcaster BFMTV reports that he stabbed two people inside two offices, one person on a stairway and the fourth person inside the building's courtyard - where the knifeman was shot dead.

There we have it, that's another way that the body count can be racked up, targeting individuals when they were away from others, over a longer period.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:52 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I know maybe it's because i'm an American, but that really does just seem ridiculous. I get that knives can be a weapon, but 999 times out of a 1000, it's just an everyday tool.


Not to mention basically unenforceable.

How's that?

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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
What are we going to do now then?

Find some other tragic deaths to shitpost about? Maybe there was a car crash recently, you could say we need car control.

Why is it everyone always misses the obvious solution to all of this: death control.
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