New York abandons plans for mens shelter

[MineLegotia and Equestria]

I know right? It's like they're almost sexist!

I really, really want some good news in the world right now. Anyone got any wholesome news?

I heard somewhere that dogs dream about their humans.

thanks, needed that. Now, where were we lads?

[Antityranicals]

Yeah, but the dumbasses in power seem to believe men can't be victims of abuse

Some are willing to accept that men can be abused by other men but will still laugh at the idea that a man could be assaulted by his wife.

Despite the definite possibility of a woman assaulting a man, I still generally like to keep to the values of chivalry. Third wave feminism, however, isn't even real feminism, it's just women shooting themselves in the foot.

[Ors Might]

I heard somewhere that dogs dream about their humans.

thanks, needed that. Now, where were we lads?

Men don’t deserve help because penises.

[Ors Might]

Some are willing to accept that men can be abused by other men but will still laugh at the idea that a man could be assaulted by his wife.

Despite the definite possibility of a woman assaulting a man, I still generally like to keep to the values of chivalry. Third wave feminism, however, isn't even real feminism, it's just women shooting themselves in the foot.

I mean, if you wanna start challenging people to duels for the sake of honor, I’m all for that dude.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Just because someone has a job does not mean it will pay enough for him or her to afford a home. I'm not a supporter of 15 per hour, but eliminating it will not eliminate the need for homeless shelters.

That's another thing. New York has some of the most ridiculous building codes in the nation. Complying with these codes costs tons of money, in many cases doubling the cost of a project, thus driving up housing costs through the roof. That's not to mention certain types of low income housing which are downright prohibited. Were it not for these insane regulations, $7 an hour would be enough to pay rent.

I'm already for deregulation for the most part, but homeless shelters are still going to be required. The economy will not always be hot enough for everyone to have a job, and there will be always some people down on their luck.

I also don't know about 7 dollars an hour ever being enough to pay rent.

[Antityranicals]

That's another thing. New York has some of the most ridiculous building codes in the nation. Complying with these codes costs tons of money, in many cases doubling the cost of a project, thus driving up housing costs through the roof. That's not to mention certain types of low income housing which are downright prohibited. Were it not for these insane regulations, $7 an hour would be enough to pay rent.

$7 an hour is not enough to pay rent in ANY state.

That's because of the damn IBC. If the US were smart, it wouldn't enforce the International Building Codes. New York has the same problem, just to a greater extent.

[Bunker 51]

Coming from this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinio ... 462142.php

Potential solutions tossed out by the Trump administration — razing tent cities, putting the homeless in government facilities, using police to get people off the street — are widely seen as harmful or ineffective by advocates.

Is this the president we want in 2020?

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$7 an hour is not enough to pay rent in ANY state.

That's because of the damn IBC. If the US were smart, it wouldn't enforce the International Building Codes. New York has the same problem, just to a greater extent.

So you want slums made of cardboard that collapse in a strong breeze and go up in flames within seconds?

[Gormwood]

That's because of the damn IBC. If the US were smart, it wouldn't enforce the International Building Codes. New York has the same problem, just to a greater extent.

So you want slums made of cardboard that collapse in a strong breeze and go up in flames within seconds?

I can see why some would see that as a great solution to the homeless.

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Coming from this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinio ... 462142.php

Potential solutions tossed out by the Trump administration — razing tent cities, putting the homeless in government facilities, using police to get people off the street — are widely seen as harmful or ineffective by advocates.

Is this the president we want in 2020?

A good deal of Trump supporters wouldn't mind if the homeless were just rounded up and shot.

[Antityranicals]

That's another thing. New York has some of the most ridiculous building codes in the nation. Complying with these codes costs tons of money, in many cases doubling the cost of a project, thus driving up housing costs through the roof. That's not to mention certain types of low income housing which are downright prohibited. Were it not for these insane regulations, $7 an hour would be enough to pay rent.

I'm already for deregulation for the most part, but homeless shelters are still going to be required. The economy will not always be hot enough for everyone to have a job, and there will be always some people down on their luck.

I also don't know about 7 dollars ever being enough to pay rent.

The economy is messed up by government stimulus. Government stimulus encourages mal-investment, and in ten years or so, when everyone realizes that mal-investment happened on a huge scale, the economy crashes, and guess what? The government feels the need to stimulate it! The economy would always be relatively hot were it not for this constant government intervention. Poverty is the direct result of the government trying to prevent poverty.

[Antityranicals]

That's because of the damn IBC. If the US were smart, it wouldn't enforce the International Building Codes. New York has the same problem, just to a greater extent.

So you want slums made of cardboard that collapse in a strong breeze and go up in flames within seconds?

Not really, but it's better than nothing. We shouldn't ban something just because it's suboptimal. Don't make the best the enemy of the good.

[Nuclear Wastelands]

Absolutely disgusting.

For a city that's all about Gender Equality, NYC is pretty damn sexist.

[Ors Might]

Coming from this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinio ... 462142.php

Potential solutions tossed out by the Trump administration — razing tent cities, putting the homeless in government facilities, using police to get people off the street — are widely seen as harmful or ineffective by advocates.

Is this the president we want in 2020?

I imagine a lot of the people that prevented this mens shelter from opening as a mens shelter would be surprised to know how much they have in common with Trump.

[SD_Film Artists]

Why single men? Is sexual abuse suddenly ok if it's done as part of an affair?
Also *how* single do they have to be? Is it strictly 'married or unmarried' or can you have a recent girlfriend or friend with benefits?

So many questions..

[Bunker 51]

Absolutely disgusting.

For a city that's all about Gender Equality, NYC is pretty damn sexist.

I agree. People are pushing for new rights for women and gender but then throw out other values?

[Bunker 51]

The people who supported the decision to keep men out of a shelter just because it was near schools were being idiotic. With no established place to stay, who's to say the men that now can't live there won't sleep even closer to the aforementioned schools?

[Antityranicals]

So you want slums made of cardboard that collapse in a strong breeze and go up in flames within seconds?

Not really, but it's better than nothing. We shouldn't ban something just because it's suboptimal. Don't make the best the enemy of the good.

And besides, there's a lot in between what you described and what the strict IBCs require.

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So you want slums made of cardboard that collapse in a strong breeze and go up in flames within seconds?

Not really, but it's better than nothing. We shouldn't ban something just because it's suboptimal. Don't make the best the enemy of the good.

Living in slums and working for pennies is good?

Also, this isn't a dichotomy of living in slums vs. sleeping on the streets. As I said, we could just give homeless people homes. Apartments with electricity and running water that are safe to live in. We can easily give people homes at any time.

[MineLegotia and Equestria]

Absolutely disgusting.

For a city that's all about Gender Equality, NYC is pretty damn sexist.

I agree. People are pushing for new rights for women and gender but then throw out other values?

That's the problem with our human minds. When we focus on something, we tend to forget the rest. My mumma always said that women were better at focusing on many things at once, in comparision to man who focuses fully on thing and moves on to the next.

Is this proof that my mutha's statement was wrong? Or is it just an exception?

When advancing one ideal, one must pay attention to the other ideals already there

[Rojava Free State]

Some are willing to accept that men can be abused by other men but will still laugh at the idea that a man could be assaulted by his wife.

Despite the definite possibility of a woman assaulting a man, I still generally like to keep to the values of chivalry. Third wave feminism, however, isn't even real feminism, it's just women shooting themselves in the foot.

Screw chivalry, letting a woman hit you and abuse you doesn't make you a man. It makes you a coward. Real men let no one physically assault them. Not a soul. Third wave feminism uses the original ideas of chivalry and "man rules" against us. We have to completely abandon that sad shit if we wanna stand up for our rights.I

You're only allowed to hit me between 12 am and 12:30 on Christmas day and you have to pay me $300 first. Otherwise it's not a deal lmao

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm already for deregulation for the most part, but homeless shelters are still going to be required. The economy will not always be hot enough for everyone to have a job, and there will be always some people down on their luck.

I also don't know about 7 dollars ever being enough to pay rent.

The economy is messed up by government stimulus. Government stimulus encourages mal-investment, and in ten years or so, when everyone realizes that mal-investment happened on a huge scale, the economy crashes, and guess what? The government feels the need to stimulate it! The economy would always be relatively hot were it not for this constant government intervention. Poverty is the direct result of the government trying to prevent poverty.

The economy can also fail when some bankers commit fraud or there is wild speculation. Government is not the only thing that can shock the market. Regardless, there will never be a world without poverty. There will always be haves and have-nots.

Absolutely disgusting.

For a city that's all about Gender Equality, NYC is pretty damn sexist.

It's progressive one way "equality."

[MineLegotia and Equestria]

Despite the definite possibility of a woman assaulting a man, I still generally like to keep to the values of chivalry. Third wave feminism, however, isn't even real feminism, it's just women shooting themselves in the foot.

Screw chivalry, letting a woman hit you and abuse you doesn't make you a man. It makes you a coward. Real men let no one physically assault them. Not a soul. Third wave feminism uses the original ideas of chivalry and "man rules" against us. We have to completely abandon that sad shit if we wanna stand up for our rights.I

You're only allowed to hit me between 12 am and 12:30 on Christmas day and you have to pay me $300 first. Otherwise it's not a deal lmao

So, egalitraianism or however the fuck you spell it? I apologize for my shitty spellings, i suck at it

[Rojava Free State]

I agree. People are pushing for new rights for women and gender but then throw out other values?

That's the problem with our human minds. When we focus on something, we tend to forget the rest. My mumma always said that women were better at focusing on many things at once, in comparision to man who focuses fully on thing and moves on to the next.

Is this proof that my mutha's statement was wrong? Or is it just an exception?

When advancing one ideal, one must pay attention to the other ideals already there

Women are great multi taskers which is why they can be awesome workers. Unfortunately, when someone with a multitasking mind runs out of things to do, they become a busybody, always bugging into other people's business

[Rojava Free State]

Screw chivalry, letting a woman hit you and abuse you doesn't make you a man. It makes you a coward. Real men let no one physically assault them. Not a soul. Third wave feminism uses the original ideas of chivalry and "man rules" against us. We have to completely abandon that sad shit if we wanna stand up for our rights.I

You're only allowed to hit me between 12 am and 12:30 on Christmas day and you have to pay me $300 first. Otherwise it's not a deal lmao

So, egalitraianism or however the fuck you spell it? I apologize for my shitty spellings, i suck at it

Egalitarianism and civility through the threat of force. You don't hit me, I don't hit you. We all get along