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Ten Officers Shoot and Kill Armed Man in Hyattsville, MD

Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:59 pm

This is my first time making a topic. I want to ask everyone to please share their personal views in a respectful, civilized way. There will be people who disagree with you on police action.
(edit) SOURCE: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/loca ... 23731.html

On Thursday, September 24, Hyattsville police were called out to an emergency situation with an African-American man who had previous aggressive behavior. He had returned to the location and was threatening others with a pair of pocket knives.
Twenty-eight minutes elapsed on scene as officers used nonlethal methods to disarm the man: Three Tasers were deployed, Pepper spray, a bean-bag shottie, and finally a flash-bang grenade. Ignoring all attempts, the man eventually charged the supervisor on scene and was quoted saying "I embrace death" before being gunned down by the officers.

With these facts in mind, I believe that the officers on scene had exhausted their options and reasonably eliminated this threat to the public. It is regrettable that the man had to die, but these situations occur.

What are your thoughts? I am unfamiliar with Maryland law, or the department's enforcement regulations, so if anyone has experience in those areas I appreciate your comments.
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:02 pm

Bunker 51 wrote:This is my first time making a topic. I want to ask everyone to please share their personal views in a respectful, civilized way. There will be people who disagree with you on police action.

On Thursday, September 24, Hyattsville police were called out to an emergency situation with an African-American man who had previous aggressive behavior. He had returned to the location and was threatening others with a pair of pocket knives.
Twenty-eight minutes elapsed on scene as officers used nonlethal methods to disarm the man: Three Tasers were deployed, Pepper spray, a bean-bag shottie, and finally a flash-bang grenade. Ignoring all attempts, the man eventually charged the supervisor on scene and was quoted saying "I embrace death" before being gunned down by the officers.

With these facts in mind, I believe that the officers on scene had exhausted their options and reasonably eliminated this threat to the public. It is regrettable that the man had to die, but these situations occur.

What are your thoughts? I am unfamiliar with Maryland law, or the department's enforcement regulations, so if anyone has experience in those areas I appreciate your comments.


Officers on scene could have left.
And a dude may still be alive.
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:05 pm

Meligoland wrote:but why didn't they taze his feet or pepper spray his legs?

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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:06 pm

Meligoland wrote:
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Officers on scene could have left.
And a dude may still be alive.

yeah, that's what police are totally supposed to do.

leave when someone is committing a crime and threatening innocent people. :roll:


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My source for the day is NBC Washington
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/loca ... 23731.html
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:06 pm

Could we have an article link?

EDIT: And there it is. Could it be edited into the OP? Links tend to get lost in the general thread noise if they aren't in the OP.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:07 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
Officers on scene could have left.
And a dude may still be alive.

yeah, that's what police are totally supposed to do.

leave when someone is committing a crime and threatening innocent people. :roll:


They could have just not shot things at him in the first place and waited him out. 28 minutes isn't a long time, maybe if they'd just chilled out a bit then he would have calmed down too. It seems like there was a bunch of them so it's not like he was going anywhere.
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:08 pm

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Better than murder.

I'm gonna go ahead and point out that this man was looking for someone to kill. If left to his own means, it's highly likely that as a mentally unstable person he would have committed murder himself. I hope you're being satirical :)
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:08 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Could we have an article link?

EDIT: And there it is. Could it be edited into the OP? Links tend to get lost in the general thread noise if they aren't in the OP.

Thanks for the tip. I'll do that
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They did their best to avoid deadly force. It was a last resort
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:10 pm

Bunker 51 wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
Better than murder.

I'm gonna go ahead and point out that this man was looking for someone to kill. If left to his own means, it's highly likely that as a mentally unstable person he would have committed murder himself. I hope you're being satirical :)


The state has no right to kill in any circumstances.
Civilians do in self defence.
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Samadhi wrote:The state has no right to kill in any circumstances.
Civilians do in self defence.

Police cannot intervene in a school shooting then? :eyebrow:
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:12 pm

Samadhi wrote:
The state has no right to kill in any circumstances.
Civilians do in self defence.

I can give you some resources in case you're curious about situations where government employed law enforcers have authority to end another person's life.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:12 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
They could have just not shot things at him in the first place and waited him out. 28 minutes isn't a long time, maybe if they'd just chilled out a bit then he would have calmed down too. It seems like there was a bunch of them so it's not like he was going anywhere.

they shot him because he charged at an officer. waiting him out was not an option.


He charged an officer after being hit with tasers, bean bags, and a flash bang. I'd have been pissed off too.

Just chill a bit in the first place and maybe he wouldn't have charged anyone.
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:13 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Samadhi wrote:The state has no right to kill in any circumstances.
Civilians do in self defence.

Police cannot intervene in a school shooting then? :eyebrow:

No the staff and students should be armed
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Samadhi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Police cannot intervene in a school shooting then? :eyebrow:

No the staff and students should be armed

Oh dearie me.
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:13 pm

Bunker 51 wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
The state has no right to kill in any circumstances.
Civilians do in self defence.

I can give you some resources in case you're curious about situations where government employed law enforcers have authority to end another person's life.


I can give you that now.

“Never”
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:17 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
He charged an officer after being hit with tasers, bean bags, and a flash bang. I'd have been pissed off too.

Just chill a bit in the first place and maybe he wouldn't have charged anyone.

the dude had just beaten a coffee shop worker with a metal pole.

youd have been pissed that police were messing with you after beating an innocent person?


That's just not true. The incident with the pole was 3 days before he got shot.
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:17 pm

Samadhi wrote:
I can give you that now.

“Never”

I'm glad that you have such firm beliefs in your moral standing, but many countries have clearly stated regulations in this category.
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
That's just not true. The incident with the pole was 3 days before he got shot.

Good correction.
However, he was looking for the same person, and police had reasonable suspicion that his intent was to kill.
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:19 pm

Bunker 51 wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
I can give you that now.

“Never”

I'm glad that you have such firm beliefs in your moral standing, but many countries have clearly stated regulations in this category.


Yes, they’re wrong.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:20 pm

Samadhi wrote:
Bunker 51 wrote:I'm glad that you have such firm beliefs in your moral standing, but many countries have clearly stated regulations in this category.


Yes, they’re wrong.

Why?
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Postby Bunker 51 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:21 pm

Samadhi wrote:Yes, they’re wrong.

great
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Postby Samadhi » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:21 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
Yes, they’re wrong.

Why?


Because governments have a long history of killing people.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:23 pm

Samadhi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Why?


Because governments have a long history of killing people.

Because they have done it isn't an answer to the question of why you think they shouldn't have the right to do it in certain circumstances.
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