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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Again I want to point out today that the Daily Wire is essentially saying "Because she has two mental disabilities, her exercising her right to freedom of speech and freedom of protest is child abuse."

Not what they're saying. What they're saying is "terrifying a child with hysterical doomsday prophesies to the point that they're waking up with nightmares is child abuse." which, yeah, that's fuckin abusive as hell.

Climate change is not a "hysterical doomsday prophesy", so already you've started off your argument with lies.

Children have nightmares about a bunch of stuff that's just as real as climate change. When a child becomes upset after learning about death itself, we don't accuse their parents of being abusive for it.

And while we are at it, you and your buddies should give not treating Thunberg like a drooling, easily manipulated imbecile a shot.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:59 am

Gormwood wrote:So has any right-wing outfit accused Greta Thunberg's parents of renting her out to Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:05 am

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Gormwood wrote:So has any right-wing outfit accused Greta Thunberg's parents of renting her out to Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?


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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:06 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Again I want to point out today that the Daily Wire is essentially saying "Because she has two mental disabilities, her exercising her right to freedom of speech and freedom of protest is child abuse."

Not what they're saying. What they're saying is "terrifying a child with hysterical doomsday prophesies to the point that they're waking up with nightmares is child abuse." which, yeah, that's fuckin abusive as hell.

You aware that Greta Thunberg is a 16-year-old, right
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Postby Nakena » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 am

Liriena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So has any right-wing outfit accused Greta Thunberg's parents of renting her out to Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?


Yes thats the best thing about it. Exactly as intended.

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Postby Torrocca » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 am

Liriena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So has any right-wing outfit accused Greta Thunberg's parents of renting her out to Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?


Today I learned that ISIS is anti-Fascist.

Could these chucklefucks be any more obtusely stupid?
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Postby Aclion » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:32 am

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Aclion wrote:Not what they're saying. What they're saying is "terrifying a child with hysterical doomsday prophesies to the point that they're waking up with nightmares is child abuse." which, yeah, that's fuckin abusive as hell.

Climate change is not a "hysterical doomsday prophesy", so already you've started off your argument with lies.

Children have nightmares about a bunch of stuff that's just as real as climate change. When a child becomes upset after learning about death itself, we don't accuse their parents of being abusive for it.

But we're not talking about climate change. We're talking about an apocalyptic fantasy based on climate change. It's like if you had a child that was terrified to go outside because they saw a news story that lead them to think they'd be abducted by pedophiles if they went, yeah that might happen, but it's an extreme exaggeration, and this exaggeration of the threat is preventing their child from having a normal life. It's the job of the parents to help their children cope with hysterical stories by explaining that the media exaggerates things, not egg them on and allow them to harm themselves over nonsense.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:44 am

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Gormwood wrote:So has any right-wing outfit accused Greta Thunberg's parents of renting her out to Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?

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Postby Torrocca » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:46 am

Aclion wrote:
Liriena wrote:Climate change is not a "hysterical doomsday prophesy", so already you've started off your argument with lies.

Children have nightmares about a bunch of stuff that's just as real as climate change. When a child becomes upset after learning about death itself, we don't accuse their parents of being abusive for it.

But we're not talking about climate change. We're talking about an apocalyptic fantasy based on climate change. It's like if you had a child that was terrified to go outside because they saw a news story that lead them to think they'd be abducted by pedophiles if they went, yeah that might happen, but it's an extreme exaggeration, and this exaggeration of the threat is preventing their child from having a normal life. It's the job of the parents to help their children cope with hysterical stories by explaining that the media exaggerates things, not egg them on and allow them to harm themselves over nonsense.


Behold, an apocalyptic fantasy based on complete and utter delusions and no actual science.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:52 am

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Aclion wrote:But we're not talking about climate change. We're talking about an apocalyptic fantasy based on climate change. It's like if you had a child that was terrified to go outside because they saw a news story that lead them to think they'd be abducted by pedophiles if they went, yeah that might happen, but it's an extreme exaggeration, and this exaggeration of the threat is preventing their child from having a normal life. It's the job of the parents to help their children cope with hysterical stories by explaining that the media exaggerates things, not egg them on and allow them to harm themselves over nonsense.


Behold, an apocalyptic fantasy based on complete and utter delusions and no actual science.

Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.
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Postby Ayissor » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:59 am

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Liriena wrote:Oh, even better. The brain worms got really creative this time.

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Isn't it remarkable how it's always right-wingers that go around fabricating and circulating this sort of insanity?

ISIS and Soros? They couldn't decide whether to paint her as a Jew Hater or a Jew Tool so they went for Both like an Old El Paso commercial. Brilliant.

I mean, what did you expect, doublethink is conservative policy.

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Postby Torrocca » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:00 am

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Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.


Y'know, I don't really give much of a fuck what you happen to think an exaggeration on global temperature change happens to be, since the science doesn't back you up on any level whatsoever.

Like that article so helpfully explains, it only took a 1-to-2 degree Celsius difference in global temperatures to cause the Little Ice Age, and just 5 degrees difference to cover most of the planet in glaciers for thousands of years. We're about to now hit a 1-to-2 degree difference in global temperatures, yet again, except this time shit's getting hotter; much of the planet's going to become unlivable. This isn't an exaggeration, it's simple scientific fact. You're absolutely welcome to go ahead and try to disprove decades of scientific observation and study into this particular matter, though, if it'd make you feel better.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:04 am

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Aclion wrote:Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.


Y'know, I don't really give much of a fuck what you happen to think an exaggeration on global temperature change happens to be, since the science doesn't back you up on any level whatsoever.

Like that article so helpfully explains, it only took a 1-to-2 degree Celsius difference in global temperatures to cause the Little Ice Age, and just 5 degrees difference to cover most of the planet in glaciers for thousands of years. We're about to now hit a 1-to-2 degree difference in global temperatures, yet again, except this time shit's getting hotter; much of the planet's going to become unlivable. This isn't an exaggeration, it's simple scientific fact. You're absolutely welcome to go ahead and try to disprove decades of scientific observation and study into this particular matter, though, if it'd make you feel better.


Things are soon getting really hot and wild.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:04 am

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Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.

Condescension is not an argument, and you are talking a lot of shit without much backing it up.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:10 am

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Aclion wrote:Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.

Condescension is not an argument, and you are talking a lot of shit without much backing it up.

Climate change deniers at their finest.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:21 am

Torrocca wrote:
Aclion wrote:Your parents need to sit you down and explain what exaggeration is as well.


Y'know, I don't really give much of a fuck what you happen to think an exaggeration on global temperature change happens to be, since the science doesn't back you up on any level whatsoever.

Exaggeration is when you talk about an apocalyptic event that cannot be averted when
1. it's not apocalyptic, just disruptive AF
2. we already know how to avert it and
3. you ignore that many countries, including the country you're giving you're speech in are already reducing their carbon emissions significantly, and are already below their 2020 targets

You want to talk to your kids about climate change fine. That's good. But don't exaggerate, don't ignore the work being done, and don't pretend we don't have solutions.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:32 am

Was it child abuse when children were forced to do nuclear drills in the cold war?

I mean back then the common held belief was "One day we're all going to die in a nuclear holocaust" and it was said with an extreme amount of certainty as climate change.
(In fact I think that might have played a role in not worrying about climate change, cause if you're going to have nuclear winter who has time to care about global warming).

I imagine the Gretta's of the 1950s to 1980s likely walked around with one eye looking at the sky expecting to see NATO\Soviet missiles raining down on them.

And I'm sure if they had gone before the UN back then it's likely that a few chickenhawks would have said she's worrying over nothing and possibly have made the same arguments. :eyebrow:
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New haven america wrote:Oh, I thought this was gonna be about the guy who said that if she's old enough to speak publicly then she's old enough to work for Epstein.

Who was that?
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:36 am

Aclion wrote:2. we already know how to avert it

Which is literally the whole point that Thunberg and most climate activists are trying to make??? That there are policies that could solve or at least mitigate these problems but not enough is being done to implement them??
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New haven america wrote:Oh, I thought this was gonna be about the guy who said that if she's old enough to speak publicly then she's old enough to work for Epstein.

Who was that?

Some weirdo.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:48 am

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Y'know, I don't really give much of a fuck what you happen to think an exaggeration on global temperature change happens to be, since the science doesn't back you up on any level whatsoever.

Exaggeration is when you talk about an apocalyptic event that cannot be averted when
1. it's not apocalyptic, just disruptive AF


If vast swathes of the planet become uninhabitable, staples of food sources become untenable, and devastating weather effects like hurricanes and dry spells become much more frequent, then that's not just "disruptive AF". That's literally doom for millions - if not outright billions - of people.

2. we already know how to avert it and


Knowing how to avert it and actually taking the actions necessary to avert it are two entirely different things. Also, that's literally the exact point Thunberg and numerous other activists have been making, so now you're just saying that your own point of people screaming about "doomsday fantasies" is a lie.

3. you ignore that many countries, including the country you're giving you're speech in are already reducing their carbon emissions significantly, and are already below their 2020 targets


Back your words up with some proof, then, champ, since you seem keen on disregarding the science showing how bad things are getting.

You want to talk to your kids about climate change fine. That's good. But don't exaggerate, don't ignore the work being done, and don't pretend we don't have solutions.


Nobody's fucking exaggerating, except perhaps for you, since you keep trying desperately to downplay the real, devastating effects climate change can and will have on the globe, the beginnings of which we're already starting to see.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:09 pm

Liriena wrote:
Aclion wrote:2. we already know how to avert it

Which is literally the whole point that Thunberg and most climate activists are trying to make??? That there are policies that could solve or at least mitigate these problems but not enough is being done to implement them??

A big thing everyone seems to miss is, you need to pressure more than just Europe and America.
The United States, the European Union, Canada, and Japan together barely stack up to China's emissions alone. Not only that, but America and the EU have seen a decrease in emissions since 1990; Canada and Japan saw a small increase, and China has gone up by almost a factor of five. In under thirty years, China went from half to double the US's emissions.

If you want to reduce global carbon emissions, a major source of global warming, something will have to be done about Chinese industry. Constantly ragging on America and Europe to do more will only get you so far.
Maybe talk to India, too, though more for the trash in their rivers, which as with greenhouse gas emissions, China is the worst offender for.
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Postby Hirota » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:17 pm

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3. you ignore that many countries, including the country you're giving you're speech in are already reducing their carbon emissions significantly, and are already below their 2020 targets


Back your words up with some proof, then, champ, since you seem keen on disregarding the science showing how bad things are getting.
Just passing through, but this piqued my interest, and luckily nat geo have done a summary.

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Gotta say, I'm impressed with India compared to other developing economies. But China, Russia and the Americans need to do better.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:21 pm

Hirota wrote:
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Back your words up with some proof, then, champ, since you seem keen on disregarding the science showing how bad things are getting.
Just passing through, but this piqued my interest, and luckily nat geo have done a summary.

There is also some more detail with the site nat geo worked with to get that summary.

Gotta say, I'm impressed with India compared to other developing economies. But China, Russia and the Americans need to do better.


Alright, so, for the most part, we have countries that don't have a major effect on the global CO2 output reaching their goals, and India's making very good headway toward its 2020 goals.

So, essentially, that leaves the rest of the major polluters as doing a shit job of fixing the problem, which is completely contrary to Aclion's claim.
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