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Postby Napkizemlja » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:12 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:It's pretty disgusting to attack her, imo. Even if you disagree with her, it's just a shitty thing to do.

Well, like what you've seen it'll be equated to people's response on what the Covington kids have apparently done.

They didn't deserve the dog piling they got either.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:26 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:It's pretty disgusting to attack her, imo. Even if you disagree with her, it's just a shitty thing to do.

if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.

I disagree when it comes to non-adult figures. Plus characterizing it as child abuse is just...yeah. A teenager having passion over an issue isn't indicative of child abuse.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:28 pm

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Napkizemlja wrote:It's pretty disgusting to attack her, imo. Even if you disagree with her, it's just a shitty thing to do.

if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.


she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:30 pm

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Meligoland wrote:if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.


she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious


it aint any more vicious then the discourse of today.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:31 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Meligoland wrote:if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.


she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious


I did like her answer to it earlier. She’s taking it as a compliment. She feels the reason for said attacks it’s because she struck a nerve. I happen to agree. She’s making the opposition nervous.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:36 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Meligoland wrote:if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.


she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious


Call me when someone holds up a facsimile of her severed head on live TV.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:36 pm

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Mettaton-EX wrote:
she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious

not any more viscous than the attacks on the Covington kids or Brett Kavanaugh's family having their lives threatened.

this is not as unique as you make it out to be, unfortunately. she is not special.


to certain people shes the resurrection of christ.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:37 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:
she is not being "attacked like a political figure", it's far more vicious

not any more viscous than the attacks on the Covington kids or Brett Kavanaugh's family having their lives threatened.

this is not as unique as you make it out to be, unfortunately. she is not special.


these are... not political figures
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:38 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
to certain people shes the resurrection of christ.

she's a screaming 16-year old but we're supposed to act like she's a policy expert.


Are people really acting as if she’s a policy expert? I haven’t heard her act like one. You may be exaggerating a smidge here.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:39 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Meligoland wrote:not any more viscous than the attacks on the Covington kids or Brett Kavanaugh's family having their lives threatened.

this is not as unique as you make it out to be, unfortunately. she is not special.


these are... not political figures


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Postby Napkizemlja » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:40 pm

Meligoland wrote:
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these are... not political figures

the Covington kids became political figures and Kavanaugh's family was only attacked because of their dad... who is a political figure... because he's a supreme court justice

That doesn't justify the abuse she is receiving.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:40 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Meligoland wrote:she's a screaming 16-year old but we're supposed to act like she's a policy expert.


Are people really acting as if she’s a policy expert? I haven’t heard her act like one. You may be exaggerating a smidge here.


tbh if she demanded people to stop eating meat i'd be the first to tell her to eat shit.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:42 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Are people really acting as if she’s a policy expert? I haven’t heard her act like one. You may be exaggerating a smidge here.

she sure acts like it with all the policy changes she demands.


She doesn’t seem like one.

And let me stress that it was wrong to attack Kavanaugh’s family just because he is a public figure. And I think it’s deplorable that grownass adults attack this 16 year old because they disagree with her.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:43 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Are people really acting as if she’s a policy expert? I haven’t heard her act like one. You may be exaggerating a smidge here.


tbh if she demanded people to stop eating meat i'd be the first to tell her to eat shit.


Please, tell me you have more sense in you and you aren’t buying into the vegetarian deathsquads?
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:45 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Are people really acting as if she’s a policy expert? I haven’t heard her act like one. You may be exaggerating a smidge here.


tbh if she demanded people to stop eating meat i'd be the first to tell her to eat shit.

Pardon, but you seem to said that she is not a policy maker (that I think none see her as that) while taking her demands personally?

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:
these are... not political figures


everything is political.

And your statement of this, I can agree with. Many things seem to turn political these days.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:46 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
She doesn’t seem like one.

And let me stress that it was wrong to attack Kavanaugh’s family just because he is a public figure. And I think it’s deplorable that grownass adults attack this 16 year old because they disagree with her.

because she's demanding that grown adults radically change the ways they live.

and there's nothing wrong with attacking what she says. everyone has the right to disagree with her. she's not more morally virtuous just because she's an angry kid.


They’re not attacking her statements. They’re dog piling on her for being autistic and insist her parents are abusing her.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:46 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
tbh if she demanded people to stop eating meat i'd be the first to tell her to eat shit.


Please, tell me you have more sense in you and you aren’t buying into the vegetarian deathsquads?


hell no.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:46 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Please, tell me you have more sense in you and you aren’t buying into the vegetarian deathsquads?


hell no.

viva la meat.


Good boyo. Go eat your steak. For me. I can’t.
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Postby The Wasatch » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:55 pm

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Meligoland wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:It's pretty disgusting to attack her, imo. Even if you disagree with her, it's just a shitty thing to do.

if you make yourself a political figure then you'll be attacked like one. just the way it is.


Calling her a child abuse victim is not a normal poltical attack.

It's a dirty trick to desperetly try to delegitimize her very valid points.

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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:27 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Calling her a child abuse victim is not a normal poltical attack.

It's a dirty trick to desperetly try to delegitimize her very valid points.

nor were the attacks on the Covington kids or sending death threats to Kavanaugh's family. this is the environment that the vitriolic divide in the country has created. this is what political attacks look like now.

and don't pretend as if your side has not contributed greatly to that divide.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:31 pm

Imbalistan wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, it is Child Abuse. You don't send children out to fight wars adults should be fighting.

Believe or not, but Greta should not be part of this for another two years.

Well, let's see where that's gotten us..nowhere now, huh? We don't really have alot of time when it comes to climate change.

Realistically if climate change is going to be as bad as Gretta thinks it is.

Then there literally is nothing we can do but bend over and kiss our butts goodbye cause we're not going to be able to restructure our entire society in a way that won't suck for people.

(And I'm not talking about a Green New Deal because it (Even the Right Wing Strawman version of it that banned all meat and planes)) would have barely made a dent in stopping climate change because even if the US somehow went Carbon neutral EVERYONE ELSE WOULDN'T)

For the actual supposed level of work we'd have to do to really stop climate change, we'd likely have to stick large parts of the world under some sort of massive rationing system where electricity, pollution, and trash production was heavily regulated.

And we'd need a massive surveillance and police state to back such a system up. (And then we'd have to deal in the meat black market and people refusing to comply, likely even violently in some cases)

And even then it wouldn't actually stop climate change because the damage has been done. Yes even if every nation on the planet became carbon neutral by the end of the year climate change is still going to happen and it's still going to suck.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:37 pm

Meligoland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Calling her a child abuse victim is not a normal poltical attack.

It's a dirty trick to desperetly try to delegitimize her very valid points.

nor were the attacks on the Covington kids or sending death threats to Kavanaugh's family. this is the environment that the vitriolic divide in the country has created. this is what political attacks look like now.

and don't pretend as if your side has not contributed greatly to that divide.

Yes, and that is why I have not sent anyone I dissagree with death threats or atacking the Covington kids.
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Postby Happsborough » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:42 pm

If you went to the Daily Wire expecting logical reasoning or anything not written by a 10 year old with a thesaurus then that would be your first mistake. But in any case, This is quite stupid. Although I'm far more partial to right wing politics myself (right wing = capitalism, btw, left wing = socialism/communism/etc) many right wing news outlets, along with media as a whole, tend to write more about emotion and opinion rather than fact.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:45 pm

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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I’m very disappointed. Just because you lack the ability to interpret my posts doesn’t mean I lack the conviction to respond directly.

But I’ll try to explain it again.

The Covington kids didn’t have reputations to destroy. They were completely unknown until they decided to start being very unpleasant when someone tried to stop their confrontation with a bunch of Black Hebrew Israelites at the march. Ironically of course the Black Hebrew Israelites are also a bunch of sexist homophobes with a history of anti-semitism so I’m sure they and the Covington kids would’ve gotten along perfectly if they’d stuck to those issues

nice to see that when you do respond directly it's with such incoherent nonsense.

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