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Thepeopl
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Postby Thepeopl » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:35 pm

Religion: love.
Love and acceptance. Kindness and support, take care of those who need it, guide the ones who want to be guided, set free those who are responsible and independent enough. Educate yourself and others.

That would be the same for my political views.

I am a supporter of monetary less society.
Everyone should have access to healthcare, housing, heating and healthy food.
Everyone should have access to good education.

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Mbelemilele
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Founded: May 31, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Mbelemilele » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:05 pm

Religion: Christian. I'd label myself Catholic, as I attend Catholic mass, but I disagree with the way a lot of Catholic churches conduct themselves (harsh and rigid, rather than tolerant and loving)

Political Views:
- The government should provide for it's people. Very pro-welfare and publicly funded healthcare/education
- Very liberal views. Pro-Choice, Pro-Gun Control, Pro-LGBTQ+
- Climate change should be a top priority for the government, along with eco-friendly policy

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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:22 pm

Religion: Jewish Agnostic Atheist

Politics: I am of the opinion that there are certain industries that require government involvement due to the nature of those industries. Those would include industries like healthcare (where I think we should have a base level of healthcare for everyone in the US), Electrical, phone, and to some extent internet (I think internet is at the point where it is a necessity similar to electricity), and environmental protection (there is no way industry will self regulate, they at least need an incentive to do so).

I am of the opinion that there are often ways in which the goverment can interfere that increases competition and thus improves upon the economy, or which they can aid people while reducing their own budget because the aid pays itself back like providing homes and healthcare to the homeless (meaning that they are not on the street and have a better chance of rejoining the workforce). I support nuclear power and have somewhat recently heard an interesting idea for solar power farms being used with farm animals so that the farm animals keep the grass and vegetation around the solar panels clear and the solar panels supply a steady source of income. I very much support becoming coal and foreign gas free since I view it as somewhat of a national security issue (I do not want us to be reliant on outside sources of fuel, especially with countries that are only somewhat "friendly" with us). Similarly I think we really need to improve our infrastructure, given how reliant we are on it, and how outdated it is (I also view this as something of national security issue). I support immigration and increasing the number of work visas for those from outside the country so that they have the legal protections necessary.
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Syeadeshistania
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Postby Syeadeshistania » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:29 pm

1) Sunni Muslim
2) Anti LGBT, Anti abortion, conservative views. I believe that healthcare should be provided for by the government. I support dictators that cared for their people, like Saddam Hussein and Josip Tito. Also, Israel is an illegitimate state.
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PRO: Authoritarianism, nationalism, general friendliness between Muslims and Christians, polygamy (applied to males only)
ANTI: Israeli occupation of Palestine, Kosovo independence, Ukrainian independence, white people in Africa

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Imbalistan
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Founded: May 22, 2019
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Postby Imbalistan » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:31 pm

Religion: Muslim (liberal muslim)
Politics: LGBT+ rights, freedom of speech, mixed economy, Andrew Yang...
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:40 pm

Imbalistan wrote:Religion: Muslim (liberal muslim)
Politics: LGBT+ rights, freedom of speech, mixed economy, Andrew Yang...


This is interesting. The poster before you was Muslim but real conservative and authoritarian and you're like the libertarian leftist.
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GLDF
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Postby GLDF » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:48 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Religion: Jewish Agnostic Atheist

Excuse me, but how does that work? I don't think any part of that is wrong, but can you clarify what that means?
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:53 pm

GLDF wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Religion: Jewish Agnostic Atheist

Excuse me, but how does that work? I don't think any part of that is wrong, but can you clarify what that means?


many Jewish people view being Jewish as an ethnicity and religion. Therefore neut is ethnically a jew in descent but religiously is an agnostic or atheist.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Imbalistan
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Postby Imbalistan » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:05 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Imbalistan wrote:Religion: Muslim (liberal muslim)
Politics: LGBT+ rights, freedom of speech, mixed economy, Andrew Yang...


This is interesting. The poster before you was Muslim but real conservative and authoritarian and you're like the libertarian leftist.

Not really a libertarian; but still, alot more liberal then the guy above me.
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Syeadeshistania
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Postby Syeadeshistania » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:10 pm

yes, you are
PRO: Authoritarianism, nationalism, general friendliness between Muslims and Christians, polygamy (applied to males only)
ANTI: Israeli occupation of Palestine, Kosovo independence, Ukrainian independence, white people in Africa

tier 6 civilization according to this index
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Imbalistan
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Postby Imbalistan » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:15 pm

Syeadeshistania wrote:yes, you are

Legit dude, your bio is that "soon, all men will be straight again".
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Syeadeshistania
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Postby Syeadeshistania » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:27 pm

i know, im aware that i have conservative views
PRO: Authoritarianism, nationalism, general friendliness between Muslims and Christians, polygamy (applied to males only)
ANTI: Israeli occupation of Palestine, Kosovo independence, Ukrainian independence, white people in Africa

tier 6 civilization according to this index
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Cappuccina
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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:29 pm

Religion: Muslim (Quraniyya)

Politics: Anti-capitalism & anti-secularism. I believe that that society should be governed by a state that balances justice with public order & well being, sexual immorality (adultery, premarital intercourse, rape, child molestation) should be severely punished. Society should also have a robust system for assisting the homeless and unemployed be reincorporated into the workforce.
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Syeadeshistania
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Postby Syeadeshistania » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:31 pm

Cappuccina wrote:Religion: Muslim (Quraniyya)

Politics: Anti-capitalism & anti-secularism. I believe that that society should be governed by a state that balances justice with public order & well being, sexual immorality (adultery, premarital intercourse, rape, child molestation) should be severely punished. Society should also have a robust system for assisting the homeless and unemployed be reincorporated into the workforce.


ayy
PRO: Authoritarianism, nationalism, general friendliness between Muslims and Christians, polygamy (applied to males only)
ANTI: Israeli occupation of Palestine, Kosovo independence, Ukrainian independence, white people in Africa

tier 6 civilization according to this index
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Cappuccina
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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:38 pm

Syeadeshistania wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:Religion: Muslim (Quraniyya)

Politics: Anti-capitalism & anti-secularism. I believe that that society should be governed by a state that balances justice with public order & well being, sexual immorality (adultery, premarital intercourse, rape, child molestation) should be severely punished. Society should also have a robust system for assisting the homeless and unemployed be reincorporated into the workforce.


ayy

Don't make the mistake of thinking we have similar views.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:03 pm

GLDF wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Religion: Jewish Agnostic Atheist

Excuse me, but how does that work? I don't think any part of that is wrong, but can you clarify what that means?

Judaism is as much n ethnicity and culture as it is a religion. I still follow the traditions most Jews follow, but I do not believe in a god.
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Dumb Ideologies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:28 pm

Religion: Agnostic Atheist

Politics:
- People are not meaningfully "equal" in ability or intelligence, and so hierarchy in society is inevitable and desirable. However, The political and social system reflects the permanent interests of narrow sections of society (bankers, landlords, business owners) and in a way that is unethical and does not reflect the common good -"democracy" is a duplicitous false promise. An element of "bottom-up" democracy should be maintained, but on a non-party basis.
- Fairer ownership structures should be constitutionally mandated and rigorously enforced, along with integrationist cultural policies, to encourage a cohesive and well-managed society.
- While constantly (re-)building the nation, the state should cooperate and coordinate with others to resolve common issues, particularly at the regional level.
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Pacomia
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:35 pm

Religion: Agnostic-atheist, I believe there is no way to definitively know if there is a god, but I personally don’t think there is.

Political:
-Putting all power in the hands of one authority is dangerous and risks authoritarianism. It also often misrepresents the people, when it is democratic. This is why I believe in federalism. Nations do not need a strong national singular government to be strong.
-There should be no restrictions on belief or speech WHATSOEVER. Everyone is entitled to think whatever they want, and say whatever they want as well.
-Traditions are arbitrary, and are based off a pile of nothing. Things like traditions and morals are subjective, and so it doesn’t make sense to base a society or an ideology off of them.

Also, as a bonus:
-Liberty is more important than anything. Without liberty, without freedom, one has nothing.
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Japenderra
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Postby Japenderra » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:56 pm

Religion:Been an Atheist most of my life.I always found myself questioning the reality and existence of God. I believe science and scientific evidence proof are more important than faith. I think the Earth is 4.543 billion years as opposed to the Biblical 6000 years which is obviously impossible.The whole Genesis Creation Myth is just a fanciful story to me,but I find it amazing some find it to be the absolute truth. ideal religion to me has to evolve and progress over time in belief.It cannot stay rigid or stagnant or hold to old beliefs ideas for long. Science and modern enlightened thought has made most religious concepts outdated and out of touch with modern life.

Pretty Left-Wing.Universal and totally free Health Care,Dental,University,College,Universal Basic Incomes (UBI) for everyone. Always been Pro Abortion and Pro Choice.It’s a woman’s choice and not up to a man or a Christian Bible to decide. If a man rapes a woman,she totally has the right to terminate the baby’s life because the choice of having the baby was not hers. I fully support Feminism and LGBTQ+ Rights. Homelessness and poverty are a strain on society
and more compassion and thought should be given to those in need rather than just look the other way and say “They became homeless all by themselves”.

Yes the market should be regulated to avoid the unwanted excesses of Capitalism. Large businesses and rich people should be taxed and the money given to health care,education,affordable housing,and heavy emphasis on environmental and climate change initiatives. A focus on development towards post-scarcity economics and the abolition of nations and the integration of all people into one unified humanity is a great end goal for any ideology I think.
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Flussigkeit Kase
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Postby Flussigkeit Kase » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:06 am

My religious views:
I am agnostic - I do not think that humans can truly grasp the concept of a higher power, and since nobody truly knows what happens after death, I believe it is impossible to confidently state that there is or is not a God or afterlife.

Some of my political views:
I am not a deeply political person, but I believe in freedom and stand by the US constitution - because even though the document is antiquated, it was created with a lot of flexibility so it could change to our country's needs throughout time. It also provides a strong structure in our government to protect the people and ensure our freedom. (I am aware that the government is not perfect and is filled with corruption; I do not stand by our current president AT ALL and do not defend the majority of the US's actions, but I think the basic concept of the US government is good).

I do not agree with socialism. I believe that it is human nature to work hard for your achievements, and although I believe the government needs to provide aid for people in need, it should not be in control of everything. I think the government should be there to protect the people, but should not control everything. People are greedy, and giving the government too much power will always lead to corruption.

I believe in helping the poor financially, but I also believe in rehabilitation. People who are struggling deserve help to better their lives, and should be on the same playing field as every other middle class person. Nobody should be born into an impossible situation with no way out and need to be helped; but when someone works hard for success, I do not think that should be taken to them and just given out to people who haven't worked for it at all. Give people financial help, medical and mental help if needed, educate them, and help them get on their feet so they can work toward a good life.

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Skyhooked
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Postby Skyhooked » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:06 am

Are you ready to know the truth?

Religion: Agnostic, who belives in reincarnation and has some pagan leanings.

Politics: Dudes, here is my manifesto. I am socially libertarian up to eleven. I am pro-choice, weed, guns, porn, booze (decrease the minimum age), prostitution (legalize it). I don't belive in borders. Like... to the hell with them, yeah! Free speech? I may not like certain people, but let them speak. They might even accidently spill their plans. I go pro-LGBT.

Economically, however, I am in the center. I belive in free market, but state gotta place some regulation, so there won't be any monopolies. And we gotta make sure, that healthcare is universal and accessible, and that jobs and welfare are available. And... remove or decrease tariffs. And mandate some sort of minimum wage. (I don't care what corporate fat cats say about inflation, I want happy and well fed people.)

Oh, almsot forgot. We need free and good education and more financed science. Tech is a solution to... almsot everything.

What about enviornment? Climate change most likely exists, but it's slightly exaggerated. And I belive, it's some sort of natural cycle, we didn't study too much. And no, world leaders didn't steal my childhood or something. But, there should be some regualtions, so when a new factory opens up, people won't think, that there is a gas attack.

Summary: With this, I'll either get to give a speech in the UN (Greta style, after all I have Asperger's too.), then a Nobel Prize, or there would be no speech and money for me and I just get locked in mental asylum. Or both. Or most likely neither. After all, reality is boring.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:07 am

Anglican, Socialist, Radical Industrial Unionist.

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Flussigkeit Kase
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Postby Flussigkeit Kase » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:09 am

My religious views:
I am agnostic - I do not think that humans can truly grasp the concept of a higher power, and since nobody truly knows what happens after death, I believe it is impossible to confidently state that there is or is not a God or afterlife.

Some of my political views:
I am not a deeply political person, but I believe in freedom and stand by the US constitution - because even though the document is antiquated, it was created with a lot of flexibility so it could change to our country's needs throughout time. It also provides a strong structure in our government to protect the people and ensure our freedom. (I am aware that the government is not perfect and is filled with corruption; I do not stand by our current president AT ALL and do not defend the majority of the US's actions, but I think the basic concept of the US government is good).

I do not agree with socialism. I believe that it is human nature to work hard for your achievements, and although I believe the government needs to provide aid for people in need, it should not be in control of everything. I think the government should be there to protect the people, but should not control everything. People are greedy, and giving the government too much power will always lead to corruption.

I believe in helping the poor financially, but I also believe in rehabilitation. People who are struggling deserve help to better their lives, and should be on the same playing field as every other middle class person. Nobody should be born into an impossible situation with no way out and need to be helped; but when someone works hard for success, I do not think that should be taken to them and just given out to people who haven't worked for it at all. Give people financial help, medical and mental help if needed, educate them, and help them get on their feet so they can work toward a good life.

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Radiatia
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Postby Radiatia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:13 am

Religion: None. I honestly don't know what I believe. Until very recently I considered myself an atheist, now I suppose I'm some sort of pantheist. At the very least I'm agnostic. I seek the truth, but I make no claims to having found it, and I don't have much respect for the various religions that attempt to proclaim they know the truth.

Politics:

My three point manifesto goes something like this -

1. Change is inevitable but must always be treated with the utmost of scepticism, as change is not always a good thing. Governments should react to change and changing values which come from the people (i.e. conservatism), rather than force change and values upon their people (i.e. progressivism).

2. All people are not equal, and an unequal somewhat hierarchical society is inevitable, although such hierarchies should be determined by merit and effort and not by birth. While inequality is inevitable, Noblesse Oblige must be practiced - those on the top have a responsibility to ensure the welfare of those on the bottom. No rights exist without responsibility.

3. Personal liberty and democracy are the cornerstones of civilisation. Without these, you cannot call yourself civilised. Freedom of speech, religious pluralism, freedom of thought, movement, worship, private enterprise and the right to vote must be held sacrosanct and protected at all costs, even if it means being forced to tolerate views that are not to your taste.
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Sancturia
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Postby Sancturia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:50 am

I guess I can try your survey out. Here goes:

On Religion: I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but... I'm the least religious person in my family. I do not think of God as much as I only see him as a minor obscure character of whom I'm supposed to care about. I go to church, but only out of obligation for my parents. I feel like God and religion are irrelevant and unimportant to me. I'm more of an apatheist than I am a Catholic. Although I don't think of religion in my life I strongly believe in religious freedom and not the abolishment of religion. Every person has the right to follow whatever religion you so desire and the right to not follow any religion by your choice. I believe in religious tolerance and the separation of church and state.

On Politics:

1. I was originally apathetic about politics until these past couple years due to the events that has happened in America which made me less apolitical. I realize that we should be involved more in politics because if we don't then we end up having the people that we don't want be put into positions of power that we did not ask for and having policies/laws that we don't like to be enacted or have. We should participate in politics for the betterment of our society, our country, our people, and our future. You can make a difference even if that difference has a small influence on a local level (like say your hometown or city). Better to act than to do nothing at all. We need more people especially us young dudes to participate in politics, bring in a bigger voter turnout, and have citizens be more political literate to have a better understanding about government and politics. That's number one.

2. Number two. I believe that in order for a country to succeed there must be a strong symbiosis between government and the people. The role of government is to help and serve the people. Helping the poor, giving everyone healthcare, equal rights for all, equal pay, you get the idea. The people in their role is to participate by working together to bring about a greater good for all. Government and people are to cooperate to bring about a successful country. Order and freedom coexist with each other although one may have priority over the other at times. Personally I believe in Order first before Freedom because without order there's no ability to be free.

3. There should be strict gun control in the name of safety to protect civilians and our children in making sure no one gets killed ever again. So that we can no longer live in fear. (It took me forever to come up with a third point cause I was thinking way too hard.)

Hope this helps.

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