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Emulation White
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Political and Religious Survey

Postby Emulation White » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:53 am

Salutations all, I am attempting a survey to gather some data on your personal politics, religious dispositions and the relationship between. If any would be gracious enough to participate I request you state your political inclinations without using terms such as: Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative, Progressive, or Traditional. Instead, please put your religion/or lack thereof, being as specific as possible and then 3 points or statements that you consider most fundamental and relevant to your political identity. Here is my personal example:

Religion: Omnist-Omnism means to study and find truths/values/useful information in all religions. My concept of spirituality and God are highly abstract and in infinite metamorphosis.

Politics:
-I crave adversity and freedom, hence my desire for the total abolishment of prisons and law enforcement

-I am not static in terms of economic or political idealogy, rather, I prefer to examine the strengths and weaknesses of systems and create an adaptable system-mixed government, mixed economy

-I am personally ethnocentric and value a collective identity that is also synergistic and nourishing for the empowerment and definition of the individual

This would be the most helpful format to me, but feel free to proceed as most comfortable. To any who participate, I thank you profusely.

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Postby VoVoDoCo » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:03 am

Religion: I'm an atheist. I am tolerant of religions in people's opinions about some. But I do not believe that religion is necessary to maintain a moral life, a sound Society, or a purposeful existence.

3 points of my politics:

-I believe in the presumption of Liberty. Which means that the burden of proof is always on those that wish to initiate force or regulation. If a person wants to smoke weed because he simply wants to, that's okay. If somebody wants to use my money to punish me for smoking my own property simply because they want to, they're going to need to try harder to justify.

- I believe free markets are not only more efficient than command economies, but more ethical. The Industrial Revolution, which was powered by the Silicon nature of agricultural and Industrial innovation in capitalist economies, has led to the greatest increase in life expectancy, calorie intake, and even created the middle class.

- regulation is necessary to keep the market model modern. Primarily we need to protect our environment. A lot of people complain that capitalism is antithetical to regulation. Capitalism is simply the belief that the means of production should be owned by private hands. Some definitions go further and say there's a profit motive. Nothing in that definition, no matter where you go, suggest that you can't have more regulation without having less capitalism.

So that's my politics and three points. Let people live, Frontier markets make for a free or people, and regulate.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:56 am

These three would probably be the most basic statements of my political views:

1) As the goal of life must be to obtain communion with God, we must seek to emulate Christ's love as we seek to empathize with all creation and receive God's grace.
2) Modern society and technology are fundamentally alienating, separating us from our ability to love and empathize.
3) As all relationships should be loving, we have a moral obligation to treat others in accordance to how we would wish to be treated, and that statecraft and politics are antithetical to this obligation, as they involve holding power over our fellow man.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:39 pm

Hmm. Religion: I am a staunch anti-theistic atheist.

My politics are divided into two branches. Heavily Regulated Capitalism (for today), with greater centralization and international cooperation. This worldview focuses heavily on the development of technology and the redistribution of wealth.

The second branch, the one that everyone knows me for, is a focus on post-scarcity economics, with a worldstate and the elimination of the concept of nations. I believe that the existence of multiple groups of people can eventually lead to nothing but conflict, and thus, the only solution is to integrate all peoples. Certain parts of cultures should be adapted, and much left to die. The first focus of the state is to abolish the material conditions of deprivation and poverty. Freedom is an unfortunate sacrifice.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:22 pm

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Postby Sallodar » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:26 pm

independent. pro gun, drugs, capital punishment, choice, LGBT(cos what kind of queer doesn't) rights.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:37 pm

Atheist - although I even have issues with that term given it has the word 'theist', implying that I'm against a 'thing'. Simply, religion has zero relation to my life.. almost like I'm a normal person and then there's these other people who have this weird belief in some magical entity.

1. The major focus of government is to provide excellent education, healthcare and good public infrastructure - much of the rest would take care of itself
2. Elections to be limited to 3 debates (town hall and online for local, TV and online for national) and then fact checked websites laying out policies matched against voting records and funded by the public, no campaign finance.
3. I'd toy with an idea of capping personal wealth, also something along the lines of it being ridiculous Google can make the majority of its revenues from search but then provide an entire mobile ecosystem for free, or MS with Windows.. essentially something pretty strong against monopolies in various forms.

I'd also consider something around the idea of a purely public legal system, as in you can't buy better protection against the law.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:39 pm

I'm a Buddhist nationalist, my politics and religion both shape each other to a significant degree.

1. There is no such thing as an abstract individual who exists separately from her environment, we are products of our environment and form a unified whole with them which is identical with the body of the Buddha.
2. The main goal of life is to realize the unity between oneself and the Buddha, everything in the world is a means to that end.
3. Compassion should be extended across the whole nation to benefit all sentient beings inside it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:07 am

Religion: I'm a dead set atheist and anti religious, and view most organized religions as tyrannical oppressive institutions. I don't hate individualistic religious belief centered around the self however

Politics: left leaning liberterian, possible anarchist. I wanna end the war on drugs, all speech is free speech and I consider myself to be pro second amendment
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:07 am

I'm a Reformed Christian; I believe the study of Scripture and the Gospel reveal the divine law's demands upon humanity.

Since my personal philosophy is based on this natural law, I believe values based on universal morality should prevail over the demands of minority interests such as rights for homosexuals and gun ownership and the selfish individualism of immoral vices such as the recreational use of drugs and alcohol and promiscuity, and that these values should be promoted through the role of Christianity.

I think that independent Churches, whose members govern them, should aid the civil Government in fulfilling social demands by performing civil roles such as teaching, social work and criminal rehabilitation.

I hold that localism is not only essential in the autonomy of organised Christianity; it is also a self-determining alternative to economic globalisation and centralised political power for individuals, and the communities and nations which they comprise.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:26 am

Religion: I don't want to say I'm an atheist, but I'm not Christian anymore.

Politics: The government should provide people with good work, and if they don't have work, to provide a universal basic income to prevent poverty, prevent wealth, gender, or racial inequality or prejudice against minorities, and promote good education by dedicating more money to it, allowing equal opportunity for a good education for all, and promoting music and arts in schools.
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Postby The Peoples Mandate » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:27 am

Religion: none | anti-religion
Politics: left

Statements:

1. Income inequality must be eliminated. Those who perpetuate wealth inequality through the exploitation of others and their labor must be stripped of their privilege and have their land redistributed to the workers. This applies to landlords as well.
2. Capitalism’s need for infinite expansion necessitates the existence of an underclass to be exploited. Upon the redistribution of labor back to the workers the state must seek to uplift all members of society to an acceptable standard of living, and further state industries toward reducing required labor hours and obtaining the highest quality of life possible.
3. All forms of racial, ethnic, sexual, national, and gender discrimination are abhorrent and must be abolished. These bigoted beliefs divide the population and is often used as a tool by reactionaries and fascists.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:12 am

Religion: None (Atheism). Freedom of religion should exist but religions that advocate for violence or are responsible for violent sectarian groups should be outlawed. The state should be secular and should protect religious freedom. Religious child indoctrination should be illegal.

Three points divided in economics, society and politics respectively.

The state should not interfere with the economy too much. Some regulations are good, most regulations incur some damage to the economy, even if they look great on paper. Taxation can be very high or very low, what matters is how the state manages its budget. The state should be fiscally responsible. Healthcare, education and defense must be prioritized in public funding. Centrally planned economies will never be a thing and no one should support that kind of economic model.

The state should not micro-manage people's thoughts or actions. They should be free to identify themselves and be part of the social groups they want to. A diversity of social groups and subcultures is extremely better for the society than forced and absolute uniformity. Mandatory military or social service should not exist during times of piece and stability. A good society is a society that enforces its l aws without exceptions and doesn't allow for crime to fester anywhere. Regardless of their differences, people should uphold the law and be respectful of their neighbor. Criminals should expect swift and unavoidable punishment but death penalty should not exist.

Democracy. Political parties that advocate for violence should not be allowed to participate in the democratic process. The parliament should represent as much of the voting body as possible.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:50 pm

Religion:Weak Agnosticism

Politics:I am a social democrat and a social liberal kemalist

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:35 pm

Emulation White wrote:
Religion: Omnist-Omnism means to study and find truths/values/useful information in all religions. My concept of spirituality and God are highly abstract and in infinite metamorphosis.


That's just Unitarian Universalism.
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Postby Redternetia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:47 pm

Religion: Atheist. I don't believe in or feel the presence of any God(s). However, I recognize religions have positive tenets/values that I respect.

Politics:
- I understand that humanity must, first of all, have nourishment, shelter, and clothing, before it can pursue politics, science, art, religion, etc, and not vice-versa as the former is what shapes the latter. Otherwise known as historical materialism.

- I desire self-determination and liberation for all people everywhere, including my own. I seek to directly partake in the accomplishment of this aim. Thus I am an Internationalist.

- I find the current dominating mode of production in the world (i.e. the status quo) is alienating, dehumanizing, tyrannical/undemocratic, unnecessary, environmentally destructive, imperialistic, and must be overthrown and replaced by an economic system of worker ownership. Furthermore, I believe changing this status quo cannot be accomplished by merely supporting a politician, voting, or joining a non-militant political organization until the majority of the world has accomplished this, and the former mode can no longer "get off the ground".

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:36 pm

For many, many years, I've not known what to call myself as it relates to religion. I'd say I'm agnostic, I probably am, but something about calling oneself agnostic seems "lame" or "boring."

Politically, I'm an old-school social democrat, I'm heavily in favor of a shift to a more equitable, fair economic system that prioritizes human needs and not cutthroat greed. This philosophy extends into my thoughts on social issues, be it fighting climate change at every opportunity, or supporting marginalized individuals.

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Postby Emulation White » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:51 pm

Fascinating to learn about all these diverse philosophies in a humanizing manner, extra thanks to all who are accomodating to my requests. Here's hoping for further growth of this collection of valuable insight.

Salus Maior wrote:
Emulation White wrote:
Religion: Omnist-Omnism means to study and find truths/values/useful information in all religions. My concept of spirituality and God are highly abstract and in infinite metamorphosis.


That's just Unitarian Universalism.


In a way, but mostly no; whilst UU is a bit of a catch all definition, the problem with trying to slap a label on someone is the presumption of too much. UU has a strong foundation of humanism with a corresponding political history and undercurrent. I don't identify with those things and my personal ethics and morals are in a much different paradaigm than the inherent identity of Unitarian Universalism.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:11 pm

Religion: Mostly a Catholic Christian, I say mostly because I do not agree with all Catholic doctrine, I do however follow almost all of it. I believe in freedom of religion and large religious influence in society. I believe in a secular state.

Politics: I would call myself a Conservative, though I somewhat lean towards libertarianism. Political compass is +5.2 Econ and -1.6 Soc.

1) I believe in a minimally regulated free market in which businesses ard able to freely compete with each other without government involvement and crony capitalism (yes this means no government bailouts).

2) I believe in borders (shocking!), illegal migration is a crime and the punishment is deportation, no exceptions, getting discovered 20 years later makes no difference. Athletes who dope years before getting discovered lose their medals nonetheless (see Neil Armstrong), this applies to rape, murder, theft etc. It shouldnt be any different here.

3) I believe climate change is not urgent, climate change is mostly man made, and the solution is not regulation, taxes, or renewables. The solution is nuclear energy through the form of Thorium cycle fission plants and fusion energy, both of which have no chance of melting down. Ever. Lab grown meat is also another solution to climate change (agricultural emissions). Lets not become vegans and prohibit ourselves from that tasty steak!
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Postby GLDF » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:31 pm

I believe in personal freedom and equality whenever such practice does not impede on reasonable establishment- i.e. pedophiles, no police, or criminals having no penalties would remain banned. This also means I believe that people of all nationalities should enjoy basic rights like freedom of expression and take chances. The ideal economy is free and fair. I support higher taxes and cuts to services that can't reasonably help anyone. Politically, I would rather achieve progress than promise an unfulfilled and poorly conceived agenda to please ignorant and radical people who don't represent the majority of the population.

Religiously, I think anyone with unswerving devotion and lack of rationality is wrong- atheists aren't an exception. Sticking to a rigid and rather arbitrary set of ideas and supposing them absolutely right isn't naturally true or proven in any way. If you have the exact same beliefs as someone else and think people who otherwise are all stupid is hypocrisy. In terms of actual views, I have a liberal take on monotheism. Not everything in the Bible was meant to be true or literal and definitely should not be treated as such. Being a Muslim isn't wrong unless you become a dogmatic like many of those who oppose Islam. God does exist but is neither all helping or never acting. If God did so, what is the point of having a population of billions of puppets? Or watching and not acting as a God? Extremists of all beliefs, like those who take insane stances on the environment, expression, violence exist on both sides and are all incorrect but not necessarily with I'll intentions. And God didn't intend for any of us to be racist shitheads or other enemies of humanities. Life is generally precious unless one life threatens another that deserves it more.

For the two, I guess my mixed market and anti-preventable death views impacted my religious ones. I took what I liked and stuck with it. We need to make laws that will improve conditions for humanity and promise everyone has the best life they could if they wish and doing so should be encouraged. I want to fix problems hurting humans on a global and meaningful scale. The small things don't matter as much in my ideals.

As for some of those you posted... Edgy.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:30 pm

I’m an irreligious Catholic, I think. I just don’t really care.

I dream of Northumbrian independence (much to the dismay of many people on this forum, including the moderators), but I’ll settle for a social democratic agrarian (basically that means I want Norfolk to vote Labour) English republic with devolution to the old counties. It’d be pretty neat if we demolished all the ugly stuff (yeah that includes the Victorian terraced houses) and built beautiful new villages connected by RAILWAYS.
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Postby Conifer Grove » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:58 pm

Religion: I do not follow any organised one and think that trying to fully understand the universe is beyond our comprehension

Politics: I believe in fairness and a meritocracy. I think that people should live and let live. I also think that we need to be tougher on crime

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Postby Page » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:20 am

Religion: I'm an atheist. I do not entirely dismiss the possibility of some kind of god-like entity, it may be that an alien hivemind or extremely advanced
AI or some other being that is incomprehensibly powerful exists somewhere in the cosmos. The gods of man though, I am quite certain do not exist.

Politics: I'm a libertarian socialist. I believe that an ideal society would be a stateless one in which people voluntarily associate with one another and share resources without exploitation. I tend to hold authority in contempt and I do not recognize the state as legitimate, but I accept that we must deal with the state to improve our material conditions.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:07 am

Page wrote:Religion: I'm an atheist. I do not entirely dismiss the possibility of some kind of god-like entity, it may be that an alien hivemind or extremely advanced
AI or some other being that is incomprehensibly powerful exists somewhere in the cosmos. The gods of man though, I am quite certain do not exist.

Politics: I'm a libertarian socialist. I believe that an ideal society would be a stateless one in which people voluntarily associate with one another and share resources without exploitation. I tend to hold authority in contempt and I do not recognize the state as legitimate, but I accept that we must deal with the state to improve our material conditions.


What if there was some alien hivemind out there in space that was approaching earth but we couldn't detect it? That's scarier in my mind than the devil or hell because it actually could be possible.
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