How will Brexit be taught in 500 years?

[Bear Stearns]

As a current event.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Assuming our current civilization survives, events such as that will likely be considered too small to be taught in-detail. I would doubt if we even taught WWI and WWII in much detail 500 years from now.

[Bear Stearns]

Assuming our current civilization survives, events such as that will likely be considered too small to be taught in-detail. I would doubt if we even taught WWI and WWII in much detail 500 years from now.

Thank fuck. I look forward to when Western countries can move on from Hitler.

[Rojava Free State]

Assuming our current civilization survives, events such as that will likely be considered too small to be taught in-detail. I would doubt if we even taught WWI and WWII in much detail 500 years from now.

Thank fuck. I look forward to when Western countries can move on from Hitler.

I'll be more than happy when the holocaust isn't used in every argument related to israeli crimes against humanity, mass unchecked immigration, people you don't like who are president or to promote a new young adult fiction novel. Please god, make this happen

[United Muscovite Nations]

Assuming our current civilization survives, events such as that will likely be considered too small to be taught in-detail. I would doubt if we even taught WWI and WWII in much detail 500 years from now.

Thank fuck. I look forward to when Western countries can move on from Hitler.

Most people will probably still know the name Hitler, but more in the sense that most people can name Genghis Khan or Cortes, or other conquerors, but not really knowing much about what it was they actually did. I suspect that, in enough time, we'll no longer even teach WWI and WWII as distinct wars and just settle for a basic gist of "the early 20th century was a period of conflict on a previously unseen scale" with maybe people specializing and knowing more about it, but otherwise being glossed over. This happens quite a bit, and WWII probably gets so much attention now just due to recency bias.

[Bear Stearns]

Thank fuck. I look forward to when Western countries can move on from Hitler.

I'll be more than happy when the holocaust isn't used in every argument related to israeli crimes against humanity, mass unchecked immigration, people you don't like who are president or to promote a new young adult fiction novel. Please god, make this happen

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

[Bear Stearns]

Thank fuck. I look forward to when Western countries can move on from Hitler.

Most people will probably still know the name Hitler, but more in the sense that most people can name Genghis Khan or Cortes, or other conquerors, but not really knowing much about what it was they actually did. I suspect that, in enough time, we'll no longer even teach WWI and WWII as distinct wars and just settle for a basic gist of "the early 20th century was a period of conflict on a previously unseen scale" with maybe people specializing and knowing more about it, but otherwise being glossed over. This happens quite a bit, and WWII probably gets so much attention now just due to recency bias.

I agree. Even the Cold War won't even be relevant once we get into the 2030s. It will be remembered as a brief time after the World Wars when American liberalism was triumphant and that was really it.

The American Civil War was trending towards getting a similar treatment, but identity politics have brought it back to the forefront.

[Thermodolia]

This assumes that the UK doesn’t end as a result of said leaving. Then it wouldn’t be a footnote but a history quiz

Sure it would. How much do you know about the end of the PLC?

I don’t know what that stands for. If I knew what it stood for I’d tell ya

[Rojava Free State]

I'll be more than happy when the holocaust isn't used in every argument related to israeli crimes against humanity, mass unchecked immigration, people you don't like who are president or to promote a new young adult fiction novel. Please god, make this happen

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

[Chan Island]

I'll be more than happy when the holocaust isn't used in every argument related to israeli crimes against humanity, mass unchecked immigration, people you don't like who are president or to promote a new young adult fiction novel. Please god, make this happen

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

That would depend on the events that occur then of course. We've been seeing a resurgence of the far right in the 2010s, and if that trend boils over into something serious, then they'd have every reason to want to know about the Holocaust. Same shit as with the American Civil War today.

Or a big WW2 video game comes out. Been a lot of interest in the three kingdoms period of china recently after Total War made their game.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Most people will probably still know the name Hitler, but more in the sense that most people can name Genghis Khan or Cortes, or other conquerors, but not really knowing much about what it was they actually did. I suspect that, in enough time, we'll no longer even teach WWI and WWII as distinct wars and just settle for a basic gist of "the early 20th century was a period of conflict on a previously unseen scale" with maybe people specializing and knowing more about it, but otherwise being glossed over. This happens quite a bit, and WWII probably gets so much attention now just due to recency bias.

I agree. Even the Cold War won't even be relevant once we get into the 2030s. It will be remembered as a brief time after the World Wars when American liberalism was triumphant and that was really it.

The American Civil War was trending towards getting a similar treatment, but identity politics have brought it back to the forefront.

I think it will take longer than that to fall out of the popular consciousness, but in like 50 or 100 years, yeah, it will just be another period in history for most people, like the Hundred Years' War.

[United Earthlings]

How Brexit will be taught will depend a lot ultimately on what the final settled outcome is and also who's exactly teaching it and in what context five centuries from now.

Looking at it from a world history perspective, it will probably get lumped in into other similar events that happened around the same time period similar to how the Protestant Reformation in general is covered throughout the Western world.

Personally, being a history buff, my gut assumption says the history chapter once finally written officially in the history books will have the title of something like: The Rise of populist nationalism in Europe and America in the early 21st century.

Considering the current state of technological change, I wouldn't even venture a guess as to how information and facts, historical or otherwise will be conveyed as a mass medium.

However, while it won't exactly look like this in 500 years, which should go without saying, but I do believe the following article does provide a format for how possibly the history of Brexit would be covered in a general history settling and connecting it to the larger historical trends that are currently {in 500 years were} taking place.

[Stiltball]

If space travel is as regular as flights are today- they'll definitely teach the space race in a similar manner to the voyages of exploration.

Brexit will be lumped into the age of world conflict, the dissolution of empires and the failed efforts to prevent war- the 20th century. ,

Brexit would be lumped into the breakup of the Eu. Which then itself would be lumped in with the failed/ineffective organizationsthey made-the league of nations, united nations and nato. nato would be regarded as a successful bullwark against the warsaw pact.

Cimate change, the disregard of creating a sustainable environment and whatever happens with these GM crops/lifestocks will probably have more relevance.

[Vistulange]

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

Not to nitpick, but the importance of the Holocaust isn't exactly because it's "the first genocide", which it really isn't, at least when you look at the events that occurred.

The Holocaust is important due to the sheer industrial nature of mass murder, and the willingness of sane, functioning human beings in going along with this mass murder scheme, which was meticulously organised and executed within certain natural limits. The revelation of the Holocaust was also functional in dispelling the notion of "European moral superiority" in the mainstream.

As I always, always say, the Holocaust is not "a lot of people died". There's something more to it that makes us regard it more than the Black Death, Genghis Khan, Stalin, or Mao. It's not conquest, it's not war - not exactly - and it's certainly not gross mismanagement.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

Not to nitpick, but the importance of the Holocaust isn't exactly because it's "the first genocide", which it really isn't, at least when you look at the events that occurred.

The Holocaust is important due to the sheer industrial nature of mass murder, and the willingness of sane, functioning human beings in going along with this mass murder scheme, which was meticulously organised and executed within certain natural limits. The revelation of the Holocaust was also functional in dispelling the notion of "European moral superiority" in the mainstream.

As I always, always say, the Holocaust is not "a lot of people died". There's something more to it that makes us regard it more than the Black Death, Genghis Khan, Stalin, or Mao. It's not conquest, it's not war - not exactly - and it's certainly not gross mismanagement.

Tbh even that doesn't make much sense, except maybe the part about Europeans and moral superiority. There had been more effectively done genocides than the holocaust, both before and since (e.g. Armenian and Rwandan genocides)

[Valentian Elysium]

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

I don't want to belittle the genocides in Myanmar, Yugoslavia, Rwanda and Zimbabwe, they were (and are) all very, very terrible. However, I think it's due to the fact that the Holocaust was a huge genocide (6 million Jews killed & 11 million other victims), uncomparable to any other genocide that has happened before WW2 that it is known throughout the world as an extremely terrible event that should not ever happen again

[Napkizemlja]

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

I don't want to belittle the genocides in Myanmar, Yugoslavia, Rwanda and Zimbabwe, they were (and are) all very, very terrible. However, I think it's due to the fact that the Holocaust was a huge genocide (6 million Jews killed & 11 million other victims), uncomparable to any other genocide that has happened before WW2 that it is known throughout the world as an extremely terrible event that should not ever happen again

It's only really well known in the Western world.

[Risastorstein]

It's only really well known in the Western world.

Yeah, Asia generally doesn't really give a shit (Nazi bars in Thailand or Mein Kampf being a best seller in India).

[Luziyca]

Probably as an example of severe incompetence, if that.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

It will probably be remembered as a cause of an economic downturn and maybe some political problems in Britain. I doubt it would be remembered that in depth though, unless it leads to some sort of revolution.

[Densaner]

Depends on if it happens. The referendum itself should be taught as being a necessary event. By 2016 the youngest person who had voted in the 1975 referendum was 59 years old. A lot of people criticise Cameron for holding the referendum, I don’t, holding a referendum about the EU was inevitable.

[Bear Stearns]

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

The amount of attention people still give it is ridiculous. I get it was awful and many people died but the holocaust was not the only genocide in history. Since the holocaust, there has been genocides in myanmar, yugoslavia, rwanda and Zimbabwe, but only the holocaust gets the constant attention as if it happened two days ago. I have yet to see a yugoslavia ethnic cleansing museum go up in my area despite the large population of southeast Europeans around here, but we got a holocaust museum out this way (one I had to attend as part of a school trip in 8th grade, and which included a lot of misinformation such as Jews being people of the book because "they like to read books" and the infamous myth of human hair stuffed pillowcases and skin lampshades). No one I know cares about the holocaust like that, because it didn't affect us nor did it happen recently. You may as well get mad or sad about when the Turks and Mongols removed Iranian ethnic groups from much of central asia.

In 500 years, no one will care about that, or the George Bush presidency, or brexit, or the Persian gulf war. They may or may not know it happened but it won't spur the same emotional reaction as it does now

Oh yeah, I remember when I first realized that the whole "lampshade" thing was complete bullshit. Makes you question a lot of things.

[Salandriagado]

Sure it would. How much do you know about the end of the PLC?

I don’t know what that stands for. If I knew what it stood for I’d tell ya

My point exactly.

[Thermodolia]

I don’t know what that stands for. If I knew what it stood for I’d tell ya

My point exactly.

Not really no. Does your acronym stand for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or something else? Because if it’s the former I know quite a lot about it. I didn’t want to assume because that generally makes and an ass out of me and you

[Australian rePublic]

I'll be more than happy when the holocaust isn't used in every argument related to israeli crimes against humanity, mass unchecked immigration, people you don't like who are president or to promote a new young adult fiction novel. Please god, make this happen

Generation Z will likely be the last generation that even remotely knows what the Holocaust was. Once the Greatest Gen and Boomers are all gone, I can't imagine the youth of the 2030s giving a shit at all.

Firstly, you mean generation alpha. I'm in generation Z. I was born in the first year of Gen Z (1995) and I'm in my mid-20's. Gen Alpha started in 2010, and believe, based on my own family's interactions alone, Gen Alpha are old enough to speak to WWII survivours. Probably not enough to give a shit, but definiately old enough to hold a conversation.

Secondly, let's see- raised in 2030's= using internet by 2040's at the latest. That's just 20 years away. What in the fudge makes you think Godwin's law is going away anywhere near that speed?

It's only really well known in the Western world.

Yeah, Asia generally doesn't really give a shit (Nazi bars in Thailand or Mein Kampf being a best seller in India).

People in the West don't really give a shit about the autrocities carried by the Japanese or the Communists (especially those idiots who still champion communism despite the mass human rights abuses everywhere it's been tried). Many Asians correctly see Japan as Westerners see NAZIzism, and many Eastern Europeans and non-PRC Chinese people (Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau) communism the way that Westerns see NAZIism. The only difference is that Japan got away with it, and we still have idiots who champion communism

Not to nitpick, but the importance of the Holocaust isn't exactly because it's "the first genocide", which it really isn't, at least when you look at the events that occurred.

The Holocaust is important due to the sheer industrial nature of mass murder, and the willingness of sane, functioning human beings in going along with this mass murder scheme, which was meticulously organised and executed within certain natural limits. The revelation of the Holocaust was also functional in dispelling the notion of "European moral superiority" in the mainstream.

As I always, always say, the Holocaust is not "a lot of people died". There's something more to it that makes us regard it more than the Black Death, Genghis Khan, Stalin, or Mao. It's not conquest, it's not war - not exactly - and it's certainly not gross mismanagement.

Tbh even that doesn't make much sense, except maybe the part about Europeans and moral superiority. There had been more effectively done genocides than the holocaust, both before and since (e.g. Armenian and Rwandan genocides)

What are you talking about? The Armenian Genocide was Orchestrated by Middle Easterners (the Ottomans) against other Middle Easterners (i.e. the Assyrians and the Armenians) in fact many of the victims were themselves European (the Greeks). The Rawandan Genocide was orchastrated by Africans (Hutu) against other Africans (Tutsi, Tswa and other Hutus). Neither were orchastrated by Europeans.