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Fridays for Future

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:42 am
by Nakena
FFF and Greta have not yet a thread on NSG. So I guess I make one.

(CNN) — On Friday, people all over the world are expected to walk out of their schools and workplaces to demand action to address the global climate crisis.

Here’s what you should know.
What’s happening?

Young people are asking others all over the world to join them in global climate strikes starting Friday. More events will take place before another big day of action September 27.

Students across the US and beyond are planning to walk out of class to call attention to the issue.

But everyone is invited to express solidarity and “disrupt business as usual,” organizers say.

“Together, we will sound the alarm and show our politicians that business as usual is no longer an option,” they say. “The climate crisis won’t wait, so neither will we.”
Who’s organizing the strikes?

The individual strikes are being organized and executed by young people in their own towns and cities across the world, much like last year’s national school walkouts aimed at combating gun violence.

Notable among the organizers is 16-year-old Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg. She made headlines this week by sharing a fist-bump with former President Barack Obama and testifying before a congressional committee, imploring lawmakers to “take real action.”

Thunberg first garnered international attention by skipping school and staging sit-ins outside the Swedish Parliament. That grew into a movement called Fridays for Future, and now, students all over the world participate.

But Friday’s global climate strikes are meant to include everyone.

“We feel a lot of adults haven’t quite understood that we young people won’t hold off the climate crisis ourselves,” Thunberg and an international group of activists wrote in an invitation announcing the strikes.

“Sorry if this is inconvenient for you,” they said. “But this is not a single-generation job. It’s humanity’s job.”
Where are the strikes taking place?

As of Tuesday, 4,638 events were slated to take place in 139 countries, according to Thunberg.

CNN has not independently confirmed that number.

But the organizers’ website shows events set for major cities like New York, Los Angeles, London, Berlin, Moscow and Hong Kong.

In New York, 1.1 million students will be allowed to skip class and participate (with their parents’ permission), the city’s Department of Education said.

You can check the Global Climate Strikes website to see if there’s an event near you. Adults who want to participate are asked to check if there’s a youth-led action in their community to support.
What do strikers want?

Climate change will most directly impact young people, organizers say. But that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an issue on everyone’s minds. They want allies.

Strikers are also demanding “climate justice” to cast the climate crisis as not just an environmental issue, but also an ethical obligation.

The hope is the strikes will show world leaders that it’s not just young people who want climate change to be addressed.

“September’s climate strikes will kickstart a huge wave of action and renewed ambition all over the world,” organizers say.

Friday’s strikes will take place ahead of the United Nations’ Climate Action Summit on Monday. UN Secretary-General António Guterres has challenged world leaders to gather in New York and share “concrete, realistic plans” to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

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So what ye denizens of NSG think about the Friday for Futures and Greta Thunberg? Does it makes any sense, do you even know it, or is it just slacktivism? Is it going to be relevant or will it just be forgotten next year already?

According to various reports Millions of Students are striking and taking a break from School to hit the streets in protest against global warming.

OP-Opinion: Not overly fond of the hype and I do consider it pointless pseudo-activism which will yield in nothing else but a warm fuzzy feeling of doing the right thing. I also believe it is too late to stop climate change realistically by reducing CO2 emissions.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:46 am
by Diopolis
Oh gosh, more annoying whippersnappers than usual. Maybe they should listen to their elders.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:47 am
by Washington Resistance Army
Everyone is gonna feel really great about this for a day and then everyone is gonna go back to their lives and forget about it and nothing will have changed.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:47 am
by Valentine Z
Nakena wrote:warm fuzzy feeling of doing the right thing.

I see what you did there! :P

Seriously though... not a fan of these kind of walk-outs and protests. Yes, I do care about the environment and already am trying my effort at reducing wastage, but this feels like just an excuse to get out of studying, or work, or something.

If you want people to care about global warming, just do it at other people's convenience, or send a mass email for some event/talk that you would like people to attend to. This walk-out of school/work seems... it seems like it will just end up wasting everyone's time.

Point is, you don't need these kind of things to be aware of it... for most people, anyway. I mean, you don't know what people are doing in their private times. Maybe they do care for the environment like you think and are cleaning up, or at least reducing wastage like you expect of them.


EDIT: Need multiple-choice for poll. I would not attend, but... Hasselhoff.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:49 am
by Bear Stearns
Sounds like people just want a longer weekend.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:51 am
by Pacomia
Diopolis wrote:Oh gosh, more annoying whippersnappers than usual. Maybe they should listen to their elders.

Exactly the wrong reaction.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:53 am
by San Lumen
Diopolis wrote:Oh gosh, more annoying whippersnappers than usual. Maybe they should listen to their elders.


Yeah the climate doesnt matter. Birds are other species and such an annoyance. Actions today will have no effect tomorrow

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:56 am
by Pacomia
Will this actually change anything? Seems like nothing will come of these unless they protest directly at the government level- city council or state government.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:58 am
by Federal Spanish States
Haven't seen this since what? November? Clearly shows how much people (in my area atleast) are actually committed to it... not like it'd do much anyways.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:59 am
by Thermodolia
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Everyone is gonna feel really great about this for a day and then everyone is gonna go back to their lives and forget about it and nothing will have changed.

Unfortunately your correct

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:01 am
by Diopolis
San Lumen wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Oh gosh, more annoying whippersnappers than usual. Maybe they should listen to their elders.


Yeah the climate doesnt matter. Birds are other species and such an annoyance. Actions today will have no effect tomorrow

Their catastrophism is simply stupid. We’re not going to see them destroy the world.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:03 am
by Nakena
Valentine Z wrote:
Nakena wrote:warm fuzzy feeling of doing the right thing.

I see what you did there! :P

Seriously though... not a fan of these kind of walk-outs and protests. Yes, I do care about the environment and already am trying my effort at reducing wastage, but this feels like just an excuse to get out of studying, or work, or something.

If you want people to care about global warming, just do it at other people's convenience, or send a mass email for some event/talk that you would like people to attend to. This walk-out of school/work seems... it seems like it will just end up wasting everyone's time.

Point is, you don't need these kind of things to be aware of it... for most people, anyway. I mean, you don't know what people are doing in their private times. Maybe they do care for the environment like you think and are cleaning up, or at least reducing wastage like you expect of them.

EDIT: Need multiple-choice for poll. I would not attend, but... Hasselhoff.


Neither, and they were blocking some traffic in Naks Town. Thankfully I managed to get through it rather smoothly but it was quite a mess.

I also edited the poll.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:04 am
by Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory
That's how not you stop climate change. We should deal with them using ARTILLERY ONLY towards the deniers and those who caused this madness, i.e. the plutocratic corporations

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:05 am
by Pacomia
Diopolis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah the climate doesnt matter. Birds are other species and such an annoyance. Actions today will have no effect tomorrow

Their catastrophism is simply stupid. We’re not going to see them destroy the world.

mate there are already towns being destroyed

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:06 am
by Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory
Pacomia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Their catastrophism is simply stupid. We’re not going to see them destroy the world.

mate there are already towns being destroyed

that's why we should systematically purge those who spread lies and the deniers, duh.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:08 am
by San Lumen
Diopolis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah the climate doesnt matter. Birds are other species and such an annoyance. Actions today will have no effect tomorrow

Their catastrophism is simply stupid. We’re not going to see them destroy the world.

People with attitudes like yours are the reason songbirds are disappearing.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:12 am
by Alvecia
Diopolis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah the climate doesnt matter. Birds are other species and such an annoyance. Actions today will have no effect tomorrow

Their catastrophism is simply stupid. We’re not going to see them destroy the world.

It isn’t going to explode, no. But its becoming increasingly unsustainable for many forms of life, including our own.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:12 am
by Satuga
Personally I agree with addressing the issue, however taking time out of school or work is incredibly ridiculous and will affect basically nothing but productivity. Aside from the free time in school this will give.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:18 am
by Federal Spanish States
Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:That's how not you stop climate change. We should deal with them using ARTILLERY ONLY towards the deniers and those who caused this madness, i.e. the plutocratic corporations


Producing Artillery shells produces more CO2 emissions, you heccer! That's not how you deal with climate change. yuo see ivan, to get rid of climate change, yuo remoob climate

(yes I get the reference to that practically dead HOI4 meme, you fool)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:28 am
by Tinhampton
Every man and his dog has been warning us about the perils of climate change for upwards of 30 years now. Why has it ended up at the point where we need a sixteen-year-old with a tendency to attend school for four days a week and a very neatly-calligraphed piece of A2 paper to convince us that the planet must somehow be saved?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:33 am
by Valentine Z
Tinhampton wrote:Every man and his dog has been warning us about the perils of climate change for upwards of 30 years now. Why has it ended up at the point where we need a sixteen-year-old with a tendency to attend school for four days a week and a very neatly-calligraphed piece of A2 paper to convince us that the planet must somehow be saved?

And not to mention... kinda an irony if they print out said A2 paper, and having excess amounts of them because no one wanted them, or threw them away.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:38 am
by Federal Spanish States
Valentine Z wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Every man and his dog has been warning us about the perils of climate change for upwards of 30 years now. Why has it ended up at the point where we need a sixteen-year-old with a tendency to attend school for four days a week and a very neatly-calligraphed piece of A2 paper to convince us that the planet must somehow be saved?

And not to mention... kinda an irony if they print out said A2 paper, and having excess amounts of them because no one wanted them, or threw them away.


Let's not talk about the fact that they probably use cars (which emmit CO, which is way more fucking dangerous than CO2 mind you), mobile phones and electrical appliances (which require electricity, which in this day and age mostly comes from non-renewable sources, last time I checked) and throw stuff onto the ground (like bubblegums), or even worse, into the sea.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:43 am
by Blanjiland
While I support the protest’s cause, I can’t see this as effective. It’s not like the people and organizations they are protesting are fond of education and willing to change their minds. If the protests were targeted at something they did care about (i.e their corporate overlords and their precious oil), I could see some action potentially taken.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:44 am
by Satuga
Federal Spanish States wrote: mobile phones and electrical appliances (which require electricity, which in this day and age mostly comes from non-renewable sources, last time I checked)


You might be quite surprised to find that most electricity produced isn't very damaging to the environment, as thorium reactors which are the most common form of energy production don't produce much toxic waste or pollution while still generating about 35 times the energy of uranium.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:46 am
by Pacomia
we should switch to nuclear power