I certainly hope they don't dump gasoline in the ocean.Grand Britannia wrote:Last time the US had DIRECT RULE from somewhere they sort of started to dump tea in the ocean.
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by Kubra » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm
I certainly hope they don't dump gasoline in the ocean.Grand Britannia wrote:Last time the US had DIRECT RULE from somewhere they sort of started to dump tea in the ocean.
by Telconi » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by San Lumen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm
Tornado Queendom wrote:San Lumen wrote:Not sure about that either. Plus the car companies will move on without the administration. Electric cars and other non gas cars are the future whether people like it or not.
What if I only want to drive vintage cars?!
If gas cars are banned, a black market will likely show up selling vintage cars. Not necessarily making them, but selling them.
If legal companies don't sell retro cars, then crime operations WILL.
Let me ask you something: would you rather give your money to a company that cares about quality cars or a crime organization that funds terrorism?!
by Neutraligon » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:09 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I sense that this is directly connected to the situation going on with BMW, Ford, Honda and Volkswagen wanting to go with California’s emission standards over Trump’s unnecessarily lax standards which just shines an even bigger light on Trump’s pettiness.San Lumen wrote:I dont believe there is a federal law on fuel standards therefore supremacy clause does not apply
Clean Air Act.
by Telconi » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:09 pm
by Kubra » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:10 pm
well chickens sure fuck chickens but hey a lot of birds are real nice
by San Lumen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:10 pm
Neutraligon wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I sense that this is directly connected to the situation going on with BMW, Ford, Honda and Volkswagen wanting to go with California’s emission standards over Trump’s unnecessarily lax standards which just shines an even bigger light on Trump’s pettiness.
Clean Air Act.
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/mainpage.htm
Like I said they are going to court on this and these are going to be the point of contention
Under CAA Section 209 U.S. EPA must grant California a waiver unless the Administrator finds that:
� California was arbitrary and capricious in its finding that its standards are, in the aggregate, at least as protective of public health and welfare as applicable federal standards;
� California does not need such standards to meet compelling and extraordinary conditions; or
� such standards and accompanying enforcement procedures are not consistent with Section202(a) of the Clean Air Act.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:11 pm
by Neutraligon » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:11 pm
by Tornado Queendom » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:11 pm
by Telconi » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:11 pm
San Lumen wrote:Tornado Queendom wrote:What if I only want to drive vintage cars?!
If gas cars are banned, a black market will likely show up selling vintage cars. Not necessarily making them, but selling them.
If legal companies don't sell retro cars, then crime operations WILL.
Let me ask you something: would you rather give your money to a company that cares about quality cars or a crime organization that funds terrorism?!
My uncle has an old car. He is still allowed to drive it. companies going to pop up who sell gas cars on the black market? Please tell me your joking.
by Dresderstan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 pm
by Kubra » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 pm
by Telconi » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:12 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Telconi wrote:
It's a joke, and, an argument could be made that by setting disparate emissions requirements it disrupts the interstate commerce of automobiles.
Not really, since all it does is mean the car companies decide if they want to sell two different vehicles, or 1 vehicle that meets the more stringent guidelines. It does not disrupt anything, as shown by the last few decades that this has existed
by Tornado Queendom » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:13 pm
by Telconi » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:13 pm
by Neutraligon » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:13 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:13 pm
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