Spanish Supreme Court upholds ban on Bull Torture

[Salus Maior]

Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.

Um... *Looks at Spanish Civil War*

[Kowani]

Bullfighting, the great shame of my country.

Um... *Looks at Spanish Civil War*

Wow. You guys have some short memories.

Didn’t realize all of the crap in our history was still going on.

[Auze]

Um... *Looks at Spanish Civil War*

Didn’t realize all of the crap in our history was still going on.

The shame of ___ doesn’t mean that it is still going on. I’ve heard slavery referred to as “the shame of America”, and it ended 150 years ago.*





in the USA, in Brazil it took 20 more years

[Federal Spanish States]

Didn’t realize all of the crap in our history was still going on.

The shame of ___ doesn’t mean that it is still going on. I’ve heard slavery referred to as “the shame of America”, and it ended 150 years ago.*





in the USA, in Brazil it took 20 more years

Don't think Kowani has mentioned the fact that the Civil War is somehow still relevant in Spanish politics...

[-Astoria]

Bullfighting is an iconic cultural element, but it is quite barbaric. Surely it can be adapted in a way that doesn't involve stabbing an animal to death and maybe getting trampled?

Here.

[-Ocelot-]

It's a barbaric custom that encourages people to celebrate torture while putting people at risk of violent death.

Truly the shame of Spain.

[Hanafuridake]

I had the privilege of seeing a rejoneo in Colombia. The skill of the picador as he controlled his horse with only his legs while holding and placing the pics -- a horse without a blindfold in a ring with a fighting bull is one skittish animal as you could imagine -- well what can anyone say. And the rejoneador placed his lance perfectly, resulting in an instant kill that brought me to my feet.

But hundreds of riders randomly stabbing at a bull with lances until it is brought to its knees? No thanks. A bad bullfight is a painful thing to witness.

I leave it to the Spanish, or the citizens of any other country, to decide whether or not the fiesta de toros is consistent with their modern sensibilities.



Stop me if you've heard this one before: it might have been in Pamplona that a foreign visitor was enjoying a meal in a local restaurant. He saw, and smelled, a succulent dish being brought to a fellow diner.

"Excuse me, but what is that dish that gentleman is enjoying?"

"Ah, senor, it is the, how you say, cojones of the bull, his testiclulos, how you say, the balls."

"I'd like some of that!"

"Lo siento, except we only get one dish of them each day. But come back tomorrow, we will save them for you."

The next day the visitor entered the restaurant expectantly and ordered the dish. But what came out was a tiny plate with a couple of foul-smelling things the size of quail's eggs.

"Say, what are these? I ordered the bull balls!"

"Ay, senor, lo siento, is that, bueno, today, the bull...he win."

That’s actually a joke.

I laughed at it way more than I should have.

[Federal Spanish States]

It's a barbaric custom that encourages people to celebrate torture while putting people at risk of violent death.

Truly the shame of Spain.

I mean... you haven't seen Spanish politics yet. That's the real shame.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That’s actually a joke.

I laughed at it way more than I should have.

Can’t blame you. It is a funny one all things considered. ;]

[Torrocca]

Congrats, Spain. This is really a fantastic step in the right direction.

[GLDF]

If you are going to hurt an animal, it should be for eating it and even then it should be as humane as possible.

This is a rediculous idea.

Indeed, it is rediculous. I would go so far as to say the very act is akin to cultural Marxism.

[-Ebola-]

This is one of those issues that I think needs to be decided locally, and I respect whatever the local people choose.

If the Spanish have decided this is something they don't want anymore, then they can get rid of it.

[The Peoples Mandate]

Along with the cessation of bull torture, will the torture of fowls such as roosters and cocks be forbidden as well? If so then my delegation will be heading out.

[Aclion]

Along with the cessation of bull torture, will the torture of fowls such as roosters and cocks be forbidden as well? If so then my delegation will be heading out.

they can't ban cock torture. What people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is their own business.

[Kowani]

Along with the cessation of bull torture, will the torture of fowls such as roosters and cocks be forbidden as well? If so then my delegation will be heading out.

This isn’t the WA.

[Federal Spanish States]

This is one of those issues that I think needs to be decided locally, and I respect whatever the local people choose.

If the Spanish have decided this is something they don't want anymore, then they can get rid of it.

If you ask me, it's a non-issue compared to the fact that we can't even get a non-babysitter government (look at the results of the April General elections) and the fact that renting rooms is ridiculously expensive...

[Kowani]

This is one of those issues that I think needs to be decided locally, and I respect whatever the local people choose.

If the Spanish have decided this is something they don't want anymore, then they can get rid of it.

If you ask me, it's a non-issue compared to the fact that we can't even get a non-babysitter government (look at the results of the April General elections) and the fact that renting rooms is ridiculously expensive...

I didn’t know we couldn’t multitask.

[Federal Spanish States]

If you ask me, it's a non-issue compared to the fact that we can't even get a non-babysitter government (look at the results of the April General elections) and the fact that renting rooms is ridiculously expensive...

I didn’t know we couldn’t multitask.

Didn't know that we couldn't prioritize! What a weird concept!

[Kowani]

I didn’t know we couldn’t multitask.

Didn't know that we couldn't prioritize! What a weird concept!

If it’s something so small, then we might as well get it out of the way first.

[Federal Spanish States]

Didn't know that we couldn't prioritize! What a weird concept!

If it’s something so small, then we might as well get it out of the way first.

Yeah, might as well get a non-issue (comparatively) out of the way first while...
The economy is in shambles (although not as much as in 2011, to be fair), our government isn't even a proper one, people are getting pissed off with the whole "two elections in the same year" kinda thing (reminder that the INE website did crash because of people trying to be free from political propaganda from our parties), the fact that our politicians are corrupt as fuck and practically nobody bats an eye... and so on.

Nope, let's focus on shit like digging the grave of a random Ferrolan dude who died 40 years ago, who has literally got little impact (compared to, say, 45 years ago) on today's politics.

And I'm pretty sure you've already heard of this whole shabang because you're most likely a Spaniard as well (as you have hinted previously).

And, hey, if you really want bullfighting gone, I suggest it gets replaced with the Galician (yes, we exist) festivity of "Rapa das Bestas" (which is about cutting a horse's hair, unlike what some of you might think it is about), while we're at it.

[Kowani]

If it’s something so small, then we might as well get it out of the way first.

Yeah, might as well get a non-issue (comparatively) out of the way first while...
The economy is in shambles (although not as much as in 2011, to be fair), our government isn't even a proper one, people are getting pissed off with the whole "two elections in the same year" kinda thing (reminder that the INE website did crash because of people trying to be free from political propaganda from our parties), the fact that our politicians are corrupt as fuck and practically nobody bats an eye... and so on.

Nope, let's focus on shit like digging the grave of a random Ferrolan dude who died 40 years ago, who has literally got little impact (compared to, say, 45 years ago) on today's politics.

And I'm pretty sure you've already heard of this whole shabang because you're most likely a Spaniard as well (as you have hinted previously).

And, hey, if you really want bullfighting gone, I suggest it gets replaced with the Galician (yes, we exist) festivity of "Rapa das Bestas" (which is about cutting a horse's hair, unlike what some of you might think it is about), while we're at it.

Ah, you’re pissed about Franco’s mausoleum?

[Federal Spanish States]

Yeah, might as well get a non-issue (comparatively) out of the way first while...
The economy is in shambles (although not as much as in 2011, to be fair), our government isn't even a proper one, people are getting pissed off with the whole "two elections in the same year" kinda thing (reminder that the INE website did crash because of people trying to be free from political propaganda from our parties), the fact that our politicians are corrupt as fuck and practically nobody bats an eye... and so on.

Nope, let's focus on shit like digging the grave of a random Ferrolan dude who died 40 years ago, who has literally got little impact (compared to, say, 45 years ago) on today's politics.

And I'm pretty sure you've already heard of this whole shabang because you're most likely a Spaniard as well (as you have hinted previously).

And, hey, if you really want bullfighting gone, I suggest it gets replaced with the Galician (yes, we exist) festivity of "Rapa das Bestas" (which is about cutting a horse's hair, unlike what some of you might think it is about), while we're at it.

Ah, you’re pissed about Franco’s mausoleum?

More pissed off about the fact that they're prioritizing that over, oh, I dunno, the fact that the Catalan situation doesn't seem to calm down?

Also, uh... gravedigging is gravedigging, no matter how you put it. Guy's already dead, damage has been done and practically reverted, just fucking leave 'im alone!

(and before you accuse me of being a "fash", lemme tell you that I wouldn't advocate for digging Carrillo's grave, nor Caballero's)

[Purpelia]

And another wholesome traditional custom falls pray to the disgusting tides of modern liberalism. I spit on this judgment.

[Kowani]

Ah, you’re pissed about Franco’s mausoleum?

More pissed off about the fact that they're prioritizing that over, oh, I dunno, the fact that the Catalan situation doesn't seem to calm down?

There’s no winning there. You have to pick the battles you can win. Don’t fight the ones you can’t.

Also, uh... gravedigging is gravedigging, no matter how you put it. Guy's already dead, damage has been done and practically reverted, just fucking leave 'im alone!

I will never understand this idea, that death absolves a person.

(and before you accuse me of being a "fash", lemme tell you that I wouldn't advocate for digging Carrillo's grave, nor Caballero's)

Wasn’t going to.

[Kowani]

And another wholesome traditional custom falls pray to the disgusting tides of modern liberalism. I spit on this judgment.

Thousands of traditions have been dropped as culture evolves.