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Your thoughts on pistol braces? (See top of OP for information)

Ban modern sporting rifles
114
15%
Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
86
11%
Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
30
4%
Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
102
13%
Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
454
58%
 
Total votes : 786

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:30 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:No, but there is the police department in Baltimore...

I'd imagine kangaroos are much nicer tbh

I have yet to see kangaroos engage in criminal conspiracies.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:06 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:I'd imagine kangaroos are much nicer tbh

I have yet to see kangaroos engage in criminal conspiracies.


Thats what the roos want you to think.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:23 pm

Thomasi wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, he's going into corrections.

So he's the one who'll be beating minorities up in prison for failing to spit-shine his boots for him.

Then get surprised when someone tries to shank him in a shank-free zone.
-If he''s particularly unlucky, he'll get Hannibal'd.

Thankfully, correctional officers aren't allowed to carry a gun. So there's that.


Not if you're transportation then you get a shot gun because of risk of criminals trying to get their friends out.

Also I'm a minority so... I will simply demand obedience got to show them you aren't one to mess with.

Yes because minorities can’t be abusive racist pigs.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:25 pm

Thomasi wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Need is irrelevant in the exercising of rights.


It is when you have a population density of 28.3K per square mile. Order is paramount to avoid death.

Maybe if only people like you carried guns sure.
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Postby Informed Consent » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:25 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
More guns=less safe. There is a reason we have 5 times the homicide rate than Europe.

Yet despite having far more guns than everyone else, the US doesn't even crack the top 50 in murder rates...

And less than ten percent of its violent crime involves firearms in the first place, so what is the point again?
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:28 pm

Valles Marineris Mining co wrote:Personally I think it’s fine if people own pistols, shotguns, or hunting rifles, but I think AR15s should not be allowed

What’s the difference?
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:28 pm

Thomasi wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Why not?


Because you can't commit a LV shooting with just pistols, shotguns or hunting rifles.

Oh you certainly can.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:29 pm

Thomasi wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:


Well, I wouldn't say never.

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Bullet belts should be banned simply because they serve no purpose outside of war, Germany created them in WWI to use in their Machine guns.

The 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting. And no.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:31 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Yep, totes a uniboomer

But yes, keep digging a grave for this argument. I'll even give you a shovel.


I don't mean the gun, though the A1 always looks odd to me since I'm used to the A4, but the rest of it. The lantern, dimly lit cabin, the black hat, the map, etc. It all screams "poorly worded manifesto is on its way to the press."

You serious?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:38 pm

Thomasi wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Says the guy who spends a great deal of time carrying a gun...


I don't carry (at least not yet) I have to wait till they start the next academy. Also LEOs carrying isn't the same as any random joe carrying. Edit- Also wouldn't unless they make us have a work weapon.

How is it not the same? Let's see, cop has a holster, I have a holster, cop has a side arm to go into holster, I have a sidearm that goes into holster. Cop has a belt, I have a belt. Cop places holster on belt, I place holster on belt. Cop puts sidearm into holster that is on his belt, I put sidearm into holster on my belt. Cop walks around with a sidearm in a holster on a belt. I walk around with a sidearm in a holster on a belt. Well lookie there, it really is the same.

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:03 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
I don't carry (at least not yet) I have to wait till they start the next academy. Also LEOs carrying isn't the same as any random joe carrying. Edit- Also wouldn't unless they make us have a work weapon.

How is it not the same? Let's see, cop has a holster, I have a holster, cop has a side arm to go into holster, I have a sidearm that goes into holster. Cop has a belt, I have a belt. Cop places holster on belt, I place holster on belt. Cop puts sidearm into holster that is on his belt, I put sidearm into holster on my belt. Cop walks around with a sidearm in a holster on a belt. I walk around with a sidearm in a holster on a belt. Well lookie there, it really is the same.

Yeah, but you don't have the tribalistic "you vs all these knuckle-dragging savages with guns" mentality.

that mentality is fucking toxic.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:25 am

The SOP cries of forlorn gun grabbers when infringements are overturned begin:

https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/nypd-offi ... EQGsBFW5DA
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:38 am

Big Jim P wrote:The SOP cries of forlorn gun grabbers when infringements are overturned begin:

https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/nypd-offi ... EQGsBFW5DA

LOL wild west meme, for the bonus popup.

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Postby Thomasi » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:53 am

Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.

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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:55 am

Thomasi wrote:Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.


You are funny. Glad people like you continually pop up. Keeps me amused.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:57 am

Thomasi wrote:Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.

Hilariously, that would likely result in the exact opposite treatment, where police would rather not risk pulling over gun owners compared to non gun owners.
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Postby Imperium of Texas » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:01 am

The founding fathers intended for me to own a buckshot cannon in my house you cannot take it away from me ye oppressive red coat lovers!
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:05 am

Galloism wrote:
Thomasi wrote:Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.

Hilariously, that would likely result in the exact opposite treatment, where police would rather not risk pulling over gun owners compared to non gun owners.


Even funnier is the fact that the problem/danger isn't even the ones willing to announce their legal gun ownership.

It would also result in their cars getting broken into more often in hopes of finding a gun to steal.
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Postby Thomasi » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:06 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:Hilariously, that would likely result in the exact opposite treatment, where police would rather not risk pulling over gun owners compared to non gun owners.


Even funnier is the fact that the problem/danger isn't even the ones willing to announce their legal gun ownership.

It would also result in their cars getting broken into more often in hopes of finding a gun to steal.


Only police are would be able to see if someone had a gun on the LP not random citizens

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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:08 am

Imperium of Texas wrote:The founding fathers intended for me to own a buckshot cannon in my house you cannot take it away from me ye oppressive red coat lovers!


If one could afford to buy, maintain, man and equip them, even Ballistic missile nuclear subs qualify as "arms".

Here is my ONLY compromise on the Second Amendment: I am willing to limit the rights to keep and bear arms to only those arms that can be carried and used by one person and be precisely targeted to one person.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:09 am

Thomasi wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Even funnier is the fact that the problem/danger isn't even the ones willing to announce their legal gun ownership.

It would also result in their cars getting broken into more often in hopes of finding a gun to steal.


Only police are would be able to see if someone had a gun on the LP not random citizens


How? Run my plates at random just because?
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Postby Thomasi » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:11 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Only police are would be able to see if someone had a gun on the LP not random citizens


How? Run my plates at random just because?


yes scan plates and they will come up as a gun owner or not.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:17 am

Thomasi wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
How? Run my plates at random just because?


yes scan plates and they will come up as a gun owner or not.

I would definitely encourage people to become gun owners then if they weren't already. The people are likely to declare gun ownership are generally the "good sort" that police would likely give deference to.

Like one of those Fraternal Order of Police stickers.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:19 am

Thomasi wrote:Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.

I bet you think the Gun Trace Task Force were the good guys...
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Postby Thomasi » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Thomasi wrote:Time for may issue states to put gun registration status on license plates and have police systematically pull over guns owners daily for even the smallest of infractions on the road. Ticket them and make their lives hell until they turn in their guns and license to the local police.

I bet you think the Gun Trace Task Force were the good guys...


It doesn't need to be a task force, traffic cops can do it.

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