Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Husseinarti]

Well the ol whore difi has introduced her wet dream "assault weapon" ban and is apparently 125 pages long.
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They should be scared when a bunch of armed revolutionaries storm the capital against their tyrannical government and give them a what's what.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They should be scared when a bunch of armed revolutionaries storm the capital against their tyrannical government and give them a what's what.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

Every state level gun law in the past 10-15 years has routinely been met with 90%+ non-compliance tho, the idea that the majority will silently comply isn't supported by the data.

[The Two Jerseys]

Muh scary fully semi-automatic assault ghost machine rifle sniper minigun modification. People who don't know shit about firearms are legislating on firearms. Just another day.

Still baffling banning a safety feature that keeps you from burning your hand.
Anyhoo you are correct, dipshits with an IQ of 5 think banning cosmetic features is smart.

But I guarantee that the liberal activist judges will still hold the gun manufacturers liable when someone burns their hand on a hot barrel...

[Grinning Dragon]

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

Every state level gun law in the past 10-15 years has routinely been met with 90%+ non-compliance tho, the idea that the majority will silently comply isn't supported by the data.

Agreed. IMO, the non compliance rate is going to be about the same if this unconstitutional bill were to be signed into law. Also IMO, since the majority of new firearm owners the last couple of years are minorities they are going to feel slighted or even targeted because they dared to exercise their enumerated negative right to keep and bear arms.

Still baffling banning a safety feature that keeps you from burning your hand.
Anyhoo you are correct, dipshits with an IQ of 5 think banning cosmetic features is smart.

But I guarantee that the liberal activist judges will still hold the gun manufacturers liable when someone burns their hand on a hot barrel...

Well of course. Remember any time someone gets hurt by a firearm, it's the manufacturers fault.
Would also be funnier if that same activist judge then ordered firearm manufacturers to equip their firearms with barrel shrouds.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Gah, I’m so sick and tired of all of this unconstitutional nonsense. I wish there was something I could do about it.

You wouldn’t even need a 3D printer. Just steel stock, a hacksaw, and a dremel.

Chisel, hammer, vise. Any lower-tech and you're just bashing rocks together until you get lucky.

Folding some chisel-cut sheet-metal into something of a metal automillwall-bricklink is pretty easy as remembering how to measure 1" flats and how to bend 90 and 45 degree angles like some half-finished question-mark.
-3 layers of 0.0125" galvanized is generally sturdy enough

Bam, this post is now a machine gun. Time to go register it.

What’s BATFE gonna do about? Make a national hammer registry?

[Washington Resistance Army]

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

[Pax Nerdvana]

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

How is Feinstein even still in office? I thought she had died or something.

[Grinning Dragon]

Gah, I’m so sick and tired of all of this unconstitutional nonsense. I wish there was something I could do about it.

Chisel, hammer, vise. Any lower-tech and you're just bashing rocks together until you get lucky.

Folding some chisel-cut sheet-metal into something of a metal automillwall-bricklink is pretty easy as remembering how to measure 1" flats and how to bend 90 and 45 degree angles like some half-finished question-mark.
-3 layers of 0.0125" galvanized is generally sturdy enough

Bam, this post is now a machine gun. Time to go register it.

What’s BATFE gonna do about? Make a national hammer registry?

Email and call your senators to oppose any and all gun control BS. My two senators have remained pretty solid in voting against gun control. Join the FPC or chip in a few bucks along with the GOA.

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

How is Feinstein even still in office? I thought she had died or something.

Well I suppose when she's the crypt keepers' sister kinda makes her immortal and most likely has the backing of the chinese.

[Galloism]

So wait, after an absolutely record number of Americans bought guns due to the combination of a pandemic that threatened our meat supply and violent protests breaking out across the country, their priority is gun control?

Stop guys. Stop. Do you want to lose 2022? Is that your goal? Stop this insanity!

[Grinning Dragon]

So wait, after an absolutely record number of Americans bought guns due to the combination of a pandemic that threatened our meat supply and violent protests breaking out across the country, their priority is gun control?

Stop guys. Stop. Do you want to lose 2022? Is that your goal? Stop this insanity!

Well of course that is their top priority, they hate the fact that people are tooling up and hate freedom. Pretty obvious by now it's a raw power grab, to hell with the Constitution.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So wait, after an absolutely record number of Americans bought guns due to the combination of a pandemic that threatened our meat supply and violent protests breaking out across the country, their priority is gun control?

Stop guys. Stop. Do you want to lose 2022? Is that your goal? Stop this insanity!

Given how quickly they backpedaled on minimum wage yeah it kinda seems like they do want to lose the midterms.

[Grinning Dragon]

So wait, after an absolutely record number of Americans bought guns due to the combination of a pandemic that threatened our meat supply and violent protests breaking out across the country, their priority is gun control?

Stop guys. Stop. Do you want to lose 2022? Is that your goal? Stop this insanity!

Given how quickly they backpedaled on minimum wage yeah it kinda seems like they do want to lose the midterms.

They cannot be that oblivious to the record number of firearms sold and the group with the highest first time buyers were blacks. Now for a party that champions itself as protectors of minorities you would think they would embrace this fact. I wouldn't be surprised if support for additional gun control is at an all time low. IMO, with such high record numbers of firearm sales would indicate America isn't in the mood for gun control.

[Grinning Dragon]

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
So... With over 20+ million so called "assault weapons and who knows how many millions of magazines in possession why even bother with this stupid bill?

[Saiwania]

The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
So... With over 20+ million so called "assault weapons and who knows how many millions of magazines in possession why even bother with this stupid bill?

Even if the bill didn't have a grandfather clause, it can't be applied retroactively to what was previously legal if I'm not mistaken. The US Constitution has a grandfather clause which effectively means that anyone who had what was legal prior to the date of the law's enactment are allowed to keep those weapons and even continue selling it on the open market if they so choose.

The people who want to buy/obtain what was made illegal, have to settle for the finite supply of guns in circulation from before the law came into effect but can't get any firearms made after that specific date it came into effect if said firearm fits into the criteria of what the passed law now prohibits.

Most such bills from what I can tell, get grandfather clauses included in by default; specifically to make it less likely for it to be struck down by SCOTUS as unconstitutional if there are any challenges to it.

[Grinning Dragon]

The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
So... With over 20+ million so called "assault weapons and who knows how many millions of magazines in possession why even bother with this stupid bill?

Even if the bill didn't have a grandfather clause, it can't be applied retroactively to what was previously legal if I'm not mistaken. The US Constitution has a grandfather clause which effectively means that anyone who had what was legal prior to the date of the law's enactment are allowed to keep those weapons and even continue selling it on the open market if they so choose.

The people who want to buy/obtain what was made illegal, have to settle for the finite supply of guns in circulation from before the law came into effect but can't get any firearms made after that specific date it came into effect if said firearm fits into the criteria of what the passed law now prohibits.

Most such bills from what I can tell, get grandfather clauses included in by default; specifically to make it less likely for it to be struck down by SCOTUS as unconstitutional if there are any challenges to it.

I'm fully aware of ex post facto.
If their illogical thinking is about getting them off the street, it's a little to late now, the makes and models on her wish list ban are in common use and with 20 some million of them already out there and who knows how many more (million?) that aren't accounted or will be sold by the time if her bill were to be signed into law are still going to be traded and sold on the DL. Just scrap the damn thing, shred it and burn it, it's a boondoggle.

[Adamede]

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

Eh, Tbf it would only be a matter of time before they banned all semi autos if such an AWB would pass.

[Dresderstan]

So wait, after an absolutely record number of Americans bought guns due to the combination of a pandemic that threatened our meat supply and violent protests breaking out across the country, their priority is gun control?

Stop guys. Stop. Do you want to lose 2022? Is that your goal? Stop this insanity!

Clearly yes, and people say the GOP is divided, the Democrats are even less united. Both parties should be axed.

[Grinning Dragon]

Well OK then;
Gun Rights Advocate Wants Lawmakers Arrested For Perjury

Second Amendment rights activist Jim Sexton of Essex Junction March 10 presented a written petition to Washington County Sheriff Sam Hill to remove from the State House and charge 16 Vermont senators who – Sexton said– “have committed perjury by violating their oaths of office” by supporting gun control legislation.

Addison County Sen. Chris Bray (D) is one of the 16 legislators Sexton believes should be charged with perjury.

Sporting a t-shirt saying “Ban Idiots, Not Guns,” Sexton met Hill outside the sheriff’s office in Montpelier, with 2020 legislative candidates Brock Coderre of Waterbury and Charles Wilson as witnesses. Vermont Daily was the only press in attendance.

Hill said charging and removing lawmakers is not his decision, but he did say he would forward the petition to Attorney General TJ Donovan. Sexton respectfully disagreed, saying his research shows that the county sheriff is responsible for law enforcement in Washington County. He made a similar request last year to the Vermont Capitol Police and the State House Sergeant-at-Arms and was told it wasn’t their responsibility, either.

I think this should be used on those shitbricks in US house of reps and senate, hell lets include all three branches of the US govt.

[Dresderstan]

Well OK then;
Gun Rights Advocate Wants Lawmakers Arrested For Perjury

Second Amendment rights activist Jim Sexton of Essex Junction March 10 presented a written petition to Washington County Sheriff Sam Hill to remove from the State House and charge 16 Vermont senators who – Sexton said– “have committed perjury by violating their oaths of office” by supporting gun control legislation.

Addison County Sen. Chris Bray (D) is one of the 16 legislators Sexton believes should be charged with perjury.

Sporting a t-shirt saying “Ban Idiots, Not Guns,” Sexton met Hill outside the sheriff’s office in Montpelier, with 2020 legislative candidates Brock Coderre of Waterbury and Charles Wilson as witnesses. Vermont Daily was the only press in attendance.

Hill said charging and removing lawmakers is not his decision, but he did say he would forward the petition to Attorney General TJ Donovan. Sexton respectfully disagreed, saying his research shows that the county sheriff is responsible for law enforcement in Washington County. He made a similar request last year to the Vermont Capitol Police and the State House Sergeant-at-Arms and was told it wasn’t their responsibility, either.

I think this should be used on those shitbricks in US house of reps and senate, hell lets include all three branches of the US govt.

All of them should be axed from government, full stop.

[The Two Jerseys]

Well OK then;
Gun Rights Advocate Wants Lawmakers Arrested For Perjury

Second Amendment rights activist Jim Sexton of Essex Junction March 10 presented a written petition to Washington County Sheriff Sam Hill to remove from the State House and charge 16 Vermont senators who – Sexton said– “have committed perjury by violating their oaths of office” by supporting gun control legislation.

Addison County Sen. Chris Bray (D) is one of the 16 legislators Sexton believes should be charged with perjury.

Sporting a t-shirt saying “Ban Idiots, Not Guns,” Sexton met Hill outside the sheriff’s office in Montpelier, with 2020 legislative candidates Brock Coderre of Waterbury and Charles Wilson as witnesses. Vermont Daily was the only press in attendance.

Hill said charging and removing lawmakers is not his decision, but he did say he would forward the petition to Attorney General TJ Donovan. Sexton respectfully disagreed, saying his research shows that the county sheriff is responsible for law enforcement in Washington County. He made a similar request last year to the Vermont Capitol Police and the State House Sergeant-at-Arms and was told it wasn’t their responsibility, either.

I think this should be used on those shitbricks in US house of reps and senate, hell lets include all three branches of the US govt.

Bold strategy, Cotton.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

They should be scared when a bunch of armed revolutionaries storm the capital against their tyrannical government and give them a what's what.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

There are plenty of people who would put their nuts on the line. I can't speak for the dude with a truck 5 sizes too large for the road but time and time again in history, there have been many a rebel.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In amusing news the Dems continue to show their lack of education on guns and Feinstein's newest AWB exempts Mini-14's from it as long as they don't have threaded barrels. So, congrats, even if it passes you can still have an AR-15, it'll just be wood this time.

"Listen to the science."
>doesn't know the science behind weapons at all

[The Chuck]

They should be scared when a bunch of armed revolutionaries storm the capital against their tyrannical government and give them a what's what.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

I assume you've never heard of Lbry, a 3D printer, and a bucket of salt solution... WRA and a few others probably knows exactly what I'm talking about.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

Tfw Australia has gun clubs which are also "gun unions" but dont bother to push laws for change because they are run by retarded fudds

[Husseinarti]

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

Every state level gun law in the past 10-15 years has routinely been met with 90%+ non-compliance tho, the idea that the majority will silently comply isn't supported by the data.

i mean if its some dumb shit like banning a stock or a magazine with more than 12 rounds then yeah sure. However in a mass seize of arms supported by the Feds? You're delusional if you think people would actually en-mass turn into felons and then go inno woods or whatever dumb boogaloo garbage you think would happen.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

I assume you've never heard of Lbry, a 3D printer, and a bucket of salt solution... WRA and a few others probably knows exactly what I'm talking about.

no wow ive never herad of 3d preinters or lbry wow you totally killed my argument wow good job

Jesus everyone's heard of 3D printed guns dude, get over yourself.

I do and they'd be the best way to keep some kind of firearms in a post mass grab, I'm not saying everyone would give them up, but the vast majority of gun owners who worry about risking becoming felons would give them up.

That won't happen lmao.

The majority of gun owners will silently give up their guns.

The ones who talk a big fucking game about "revolution" and "giving them a what's what" are the ones who'd be the first in line to give up their guns, talk is fucking cheap, but putting your nuts on the line is a whole other story.

There are plenty of people who would put their nuts on the line. I can't speak for the dude with a truck 5 sizes too large for the road but time and time again in history, there have been many a rebel.

You have no understanding of history in the slightest and probably think childish things like how the vast majority of Americans just wanted to rebel against the British.

The majority of people when pushed will give in. This isn't a slight against them and I assume the vast number of you taking offense to me saying the majority of gunowners would give up their guns is because you think its some kind of personal attack, I understand, we all have issues seeing stuff like that.

Frankly put, people will accept tyranny for a continuation of economic stability, perceived economic stability, or if the wider discourse is convinced that trading some rights will give them the opportunity to keep their stability. If their family is fine at the end of the day, then giving up the right to bare arms isn't so bad, especially since I'm talking about a federal gun grab, not whatever dumb cali law that limited magazine size or barrel thickness or whatever.

Also you all should accept the fact that neither of the parties respect your gun rights, but at least the Democrats will say they want to take your guns. The Republicans, as shown by such great men of the Republican Party like Ronald Reagan were more than happy to implement the Mulford Act in 1967 in California, supported by people like the NRA. Especially since the Mulford Act was used to oppress the gun rights of African Americans during the Civil Rights era.