Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Rojava Free State]

Celritannia, speak of the devil! Yesterday you mentioned the EM-2 and now I have this for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-vx9a7MnQQ

I love forcing my gun control friends to watch videos about firearms.

[The Chuck]

Celritannia, speak of the devil! Yesterday you mentioned the EM-2 and now I have this for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-vx9a7MnQQ

I love forcing my gun control friends to watch videos about firearms.

Not sure if you were there at the time RFS but Celritannia was talking about how he found the EM-2 pretty darn neat from an engineering perspective so a fitting video

[Grinning Dragon]

Heard on the radio this morning that the supreme court has ordered officials in San Jose, CA to explain its confiscation of the legally owned guns of Lori Rodriguez. The Supreme Court justices have instructed city officials to respond by May 20. The case was brought by the Second Amendment Foundation on behalf of the woman.

A refresher of the case....
“Her firearms were seized seven years ago after her husband was taken to a hospital on a mental health issue,” the foundation said. “At the time, a San Jose police officer advised Rodriguez he had authority to seize all firearms in the residence, including those belonging solely to her, which were all locked in a California-approved safe. The guns were taken without a warrant, and over Rodriguez’s objection.”

[The Two Jerseys]

Heard on the radio this morning that the supreme court has ordered officials in San Jose, CA to explain its confiscation of the legally owned guns of Lori Rodriguez. The Supreme Court justices have instructed city officials to respond by May 20. The case was brought by the Second Amendment Foundation on behalf of the woman.

A refresher of the case....
“Her firearms were seized seven years ago after her husband was taken to a hospital on a mental health issue,” the foundation said. “At the time, a San Jose police officer advised Rodriguez he had authority to seize all firearms in the residence, including those belonging solely to her, which were all locked in a California-approved safe. The guns were taken without a warrant, and over Rodriguez’s objection.”

Let me guess, they've all since "disappeared" from the evidence locker...

[Celritannia]

Celritannia, speak of the devil! Yesterday you mentioned the EM-2 and now I have this for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-vx9a7MnQQ

I love forcing my gun control friends to watch videos about firearms.

I like watching videos on firearms. Forgotten Weapons is something I enjoy

Such a missed opportunity with the EM-2.

[The Two Jerseys]

They just didn't specify which war...

[Gig em Aggies]

They just didn't specify which war...

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I wonder if they know that most of those guns they confiscated are the ones that are not scary black guns that consume ammunition like I consume Dr.Pepper

[Hurtful Thoughts]

They just didn't specify which war...

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I wonder if they know that most of those guns they confiscated are the ones that are not scary black guns that consume ammunition like I consume Dr.Pepper

The one in the bottom-left is a Benjamin Pellet Rifle, .177 caliber.

2/3rds of the pistols are also airguns.

[Grinning Dragon]

Heard on the radio this morning that the supreme court has ordered officials in San Jose, CA to explain its confiscation of the legally owned guns of Lori Rodriguez. The Supreme Court justices have instructed city officials to respond by May 20. The case was brought by the Second Amendment Foundation on behalf of the woman.

A refresher of the case....
“Her firearms were seized seven years ago after her husband was taken to a hospital on a mental health issue,” the foundation said. “At the time, a San Jose police officer advised Rodriguez he had authority to seize all firearms in the residence, including those belonging solely to her, which were all locked in a California-approved safe. The guns were taken without a warrant, and over Rodriguez’s objection.”

Let me guess, they've all since "disappeared" from the evidence locker...

Oh, I'm sure they've ended up in police officer(s) firearm safe, after all some police officers believe they are the only ones responsible enough to have them.
From Ms. Rodriguez's POV, her property was stolen and the thief wore a tin badge.

[The Two Jerseys]

Let me guess, they've all since "disappeared" from the evidence locker...

Oh, I'm sure they've ended up in police officer(s) firearm safe, after all some police officers believe they are the only ones responsible enough to have them.
From Ms. Rodriguez's POV, her property was stolen and the thief wore a tin badge.

For all we know the cop thought he was ATF and sold them to a gang...

[Grinning Dragon]

Oh, I'm sure they've ended up in police officer(s) firearm safe, after all some police officers believe they are the only ones responsible enough to have them.
From Ms. Rodriguez's POV, her property was stolen and the thief wore a tin badge.

For all we know the cop thought he was ATF and sold them to a gang...

Well the cop probably needed the cash for his crack habit.
I'd go with, he thought he was judge Dredd, quite typical of those types of cops

[Gun Manufacturers]

They just didn't specify which war...

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I believe the lowest left rifle is a Benjamin Sheridan air rifle.

ETA: Dammit, I didn't see this.

I wonder if they know that most of those guns they confiscated are the ones that are not scary black guns that consume ammunition like I consume Dr.Pepper

The one in the bottom-left is a Benjamin Pellet Rifle, .177 caliber.

2/3rds of the pistols are also airguns.

[Grinning Dragon]

They just didn't specify which war...

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I believe the lowest left rifle is a Benjamin Sheridan air rifle.

ETA: Dammit, I didn't see this.

The one in the bottom-left is a Benjamin Pellet Rifle, .177 caliber.

2/3rds of the pistols are also airguns.

I believe their self congratulations thinking they've done good, is laughable and shows just what jackasses they truly are.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I believe the lowest left rifle is a Benjamin Sheridan air rifle.

ETA: Dammit, I didn't see this.

I believe their self congratulations thinking they've done good, is laughable and shows just what jackasses they truly are.

I'm just pissed that something that could have been converted to a KP paintball rifle or a Palmer Pursuit Hurricane got destroyed.

[Grinning Dragon]

I believe their self congratulations thinking they've done good, is laughable and shows just what jackasses they truly are.

I'm just pissed that something that could have been converted to a KP paintball rifle or a Palmer Pursuit Hurricane got destroyed.

The whole firearm destruction thing has never been logical to me, money went to pay the officers salary and other operating costs, money goes to pay for the destruction, what a waste of taxpayer funds, and not to mention the firearms were most likely illegally confiscated.

[Cheese sekhar]

They just didn't specify which war...

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I believe the lowest left rifle is a Benjamin Sheridan air rifle.

ETA: Dammit, I didn't see this.

The one in the bottom-left is a Benjamin Pellet Rifle, .177 caliber.

2/3rds of the pistols are also airguns.

[Dylar]

They just didn't specify which war...

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Oh no...not the Kar98...

[Pax Nerdvana]

They just didn't specify which war...

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You can say that again. The rifles look like a mixed lot of milsurp bolt actions, hunting rifles, and airguns.I wouldn't be surprised if some of them "vanished" from police custody.

Heard on the radio this morning that the supreme court has ordered officials in San Jose, CA to explain its confiscation of the legally owned guns of Lori Rodriguez. The Supreme Court justices have instructed city officials to respond by May 20. The case was brought by the Second Amendment Foundation on behalf of the woman.

A refresher of the case....
“Her firearms were seized seven years ago after her husband was taken to a hospital on a mental health issue,” the foundation said. “At the time, a San Jose police officer advised Rodriguez he had authority to seize all firearms in the residence, including those belonging solely to her, which were all locked in a California-approved safe. The guns were taken without a warrant, and over Rodriguez’s objection.”

I hope she wins. Darn Feds illegally disarmed her.

That sounds like an effective strategy.

Safe until you need it, plus no detcord or wires to be disconnected.

Makes it all the better.

[Grinning Dragon]

If we study American violence more closely, we cannot escape two conclusions: 1) The connection between American violence and guns/gun policy is tenuous and superficial. 2) The fundamental sociological drivers of American violence are complex, poorly understood, and deserving of the scrutiny that has instead been diverted to guns.
This is a pretty good read.

[Loben The 2nd]

They just didn't specify which war...

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The only reason they do this is because they are self serving pieces of shit that deserve the fucking worst.

[Rojava Free State]

They just didn't specify which war...

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They do that so when they're bored and decide to tase you for fun, or when they miss the red light because you were going 50 and decide to break your car windows, you can't fight the punks off.

[Diopolis]

If we study American violence more closely, we cannot escape two conclusions: 1) The connection between American violence and guns/gun policy is tenuous and superficial. 2) The fundamental sociological drivers of American violence are complex, poorly understood, and deserving of the scrutiny that has instead been diverted to guns.
This is a pretty good read.

Notably, northern white populations have a similar rate of interpersonal violence to Canada(which has gun licenses, requires handguns to be registered, a throws a few extra restrictions on things that we would call ATF items). Coloured folks and southern whites have much higher rates of interpersonal violence, despite the highest gun ownership being mostly intermountain west(aka northern whites).

[Pax Nerdvana]

If we study American violence more closely, we cannot escape two conclusions: 1) The connection between American violence and guns/gun policy is tenuous and superficial. 2) The fundamental sociological drivers of American violence are complex, poorly understood, and deserving of the scrutiny that has instead been diverted to guns.
This is a pretty good read.

This should be required reading for all Americans, but especially those who would take away our liberty.

[Grinning Dragon]

GOA, VCDL Win Injunction to Keep SafeSide Tactical Open

Springfield, VA -(AmmoLand.com)- Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) have won a big victory in the battle to reopen indoor gun ranges across the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Anti-gun Gov. Ralph Northam deemed indoor gun ranges nonessential, and ordered them closed. When GOA and VCDL brought suit to challenge that decision, Northam attempted to remove the suit out of state court and have it considered by a federal court. That tactic backfired, however, when the federal judge sided with GOA/VCDL, and sent the case back to state court. The complaint was subsequently heard by a state judge, who also ruled in favor of GOA and VCDL, handing Governor Northam back-to-back losses.

The judge’s order recognizes SafeSide Lynchburg’s ability to “operate to the fullest extent possible in a manner consistent with social distancing and sanitizing guidance from federal and state authorities.”

GOA’s Erich Pratt and VCDL’s Phillip Van Cleave were excited by the news. “Gov. Northam has little regard for the rights of gun owners, and his closure of indoor gun ranges is no different. GOA will keep opposing Northam and stand up for the rights of Virginians in the commonwealth,” Erich Pratt, Senior Vice President for GOA, concluded.

Again, just because there is "operation freakout" going on, does not mean a suspension of rights nor as a means or justification to suspend those rights.


So apparently the jackass mayor of jackson, is getting sued for an illegal EO of banning open carry in jackson, the MS AG sent out a letter basically saying, sorry bro you don't have authority to infringe on a constitutional right during this virus thingy nor is the let's blame violence on guns; "gun violence" a justification.
Jackson Mayor Hit with Lawsuit, Spurned by City Council over Open Carry Ban

Also FYI.
After ruling in New York gun rights case, more Second Amendment cases set for Friday conference

We expect orders from Friday’s conference on Monday, May 4, at 9:30 a.m. EDT.

Mance v. Barr – Whether the federal ban on interstate handgun sales violates the Second Amendment or the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.

Rogers v. Grewal – In a challenge to New Jersey’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Pena v. Horan – In a challenge to a California law banning most commonly used handguns, the petition asks the justices to weigh in on the scope of the Second Amendment.

Gould v. Lipson – In a challenge to Massachusetts’ handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Cheeseman v. Polillo – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Ciolek v. New Jersey – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Worman v. Healey – Challenge to Massachusetts ban on the possession of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Malpasso v. Pallozzi – In a challenge to Maryland’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense.

Culp v. Raoul – Whether the Second Amendment requires Illinois to allow nonresidents to apply for a concealed-carry license.

Wilson v. Cook County – Challenge to Cook County’s ban on assault rifles and large-capacity magazines, as well as to the Second Amendment analysis used by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit to uphold the ban.

[Pax Nerdvana]

GOA, VCDL Win Injunction to Keep SafeSide Tactical Open

Springfield, VA -(AmmoLand.com)- Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) have won a big victory in the battle to reopen indoor gun ranges across the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Anti-gun Gov. Ralph Northam deemed indoor gun ranges nonessential, and ordered them closed. When GOA and VCDL brought suit to challenge that decision, Northam attempted to remove the suit out of state court and have it considered by a federal court. That tactic backfired, however, when the federal judge sided with GOA/VCDL, and sent the case back to state court. The complaint was subsequently heard by a state judge, who also ruled in favor of GOA and VCDL, handing Governor Northam back-to-back losses.

The judge’s order recognizes SafeSide Lynchburg’s ability to “operate to the fullest extent possible in a manner consistent with social distancing and sanitizing guidance from federal and state authorities.”

GOA’s Erich Pratt and VCDL’s Phillip Van Cleave were excited by the news. “Gov. Northam has little regard for the rights of gun owners, and his closure of indoor gun ranges is no different. GOA will keep opposing Northam and stand up for the rights of Virginians in the commonwealth,” Erich Pratt, Senior Vice President for GOA, concluded.

Again, just because there is "operation freakout" going on, does not mean a suspension of rights nor as a means or justification to suspend those rights.


So apparently the jackass mayor of jackson, is getting sued for an illegal EO of banning open carry in jackson, the MS AG sent out a letter basically saying, sorry bro you don't have authority to infringe on a constitutional right during this virus thingy nor is the let's blame violence on guns; "gun violence" a justification.
Jackson Mayor Hit with Lawsuit, Spurned by City Council over Open Carry Ban

Also FYI.
After ruling in New York gun rights case, more Second Amendment cases set for Friday conference

We expect orders from Friday’s conference on Monday, May 4, at 9:30 a.m. EDT.

Mance v. Barr – Whether the federal ban on interstate handgun sales violates the Second Amendment or the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.

Rogers v. Grewal – In a challenge to New Jersey’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Pena v. Horan – In a challenge to a California law banning most commonly used handguns, the petition asks the justices to weigh in on the scope of the Second Amendment.

Gould v. Lipson – In a challenge to Massachusetts’ handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a handgun outside the home for self-defense; and whether the government can condition the right to carry a handgun outside the home on the showing of a special need to carry a firearm.

Cheeseman v. Polillo – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Ciolek v. New Jersey – Challenge to New Jersey handgun carry permit scheme.

Worman v. Healey – Challenge to Massachusetts ban on the possession of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Malpasso v. Pallozzi – In a challenge to Maryland’s handgun carry permit scheme, whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry handguns outside the home for self-defense.

Culp v. Raoul – Whether the Second Amendment requires Illinois to allow nonresidents to apply for a concealed-carry license.

Wilson v. Cook County – Challenge to Cook County’s ban on assault rifles and large-capacity magazines, as well as to the Second Amendment analysis used by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit to uphold the ban.

I wish the best of luck to the plaintiffs in those court cases. And the GOA won too; isn't it great when the good guys win?