Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[West Leas Oros 2]

Yes, it's the gun manufacturers' fault as usual. No blame whatsoever can be attributed to the fuckwit parents who let their shitstain offspring use their credit card to buy stuff online and not even bat an eye when the bill comes in...

an even better person to blame is the California state government for letting the problems get this bad to begin with. I say get rid of them and install a new more gun friendly or even US Constitution friendly government

Revolution time.

[Grinning Dragon]

Speaking of criminal cali govt type peeps.
San Diego Sheriff’s Dept. Captain, Lieutenant Busted for Trafficking ‘Off Roster’ Guns



I also see the short nazi from ny has decided to go all in for a run at the presidency.

so is it even worth it for the media to cover stories where they accuse kit guns and ghost guns or military style assault rifles of being the problem when its really those who defy the Constitution with things such as fast and furious and now this case.

I find it incredulous that firearms are the ills and the cause when it comes to tragedies and yet any other means the fault is on the individual. Then again all about the narrative to hate on individual rights and to make firearms icky and not normal.

[Telconi]

so is it even worth it for the media to cover stories where they accuse kit guns and ghost guns or military style assault rifles of being the problem when its really those who defy the Constitution with things such as fast and furious and now this case.

I find it incredulous that firearms are the ills and the cause when it comes to tragedies and yet any other means the fault is on the individual. Then again all about the narrative to hate on individual rights and to make firearms icky and not normal.

We call that Propaganda.

[Grinning Dragon]

I find it incredulous that firearms are the ills and the cause when it comes to tragedies and yet any other means the fault is on the individual. Then again all about the narrative to hate on individual rights and to make firearms icky and not normal.

We call that Propaganda.

I'd call it mental retardation. The mental gymnastics to reach such a conclusion has got to be rooted deeply in retardation.

[Telconi]

We call that Propaganda.

I'd call it mental retardation. The mental gymnastics to reach such a conclusion has got to be rooted deeply in retardation.

They haven't actually reached that conclusion, they're just lying to push an agenda. Evil, not stupid.

[West Leas Oros 2]

I'd call it mental retardation. The mental gymnastics to reach such a conclusion has got to be rooted deeply in retardation.

They haven't actually reached that conclusion, they're just lying to push an agenda. Evil, not stupid.

Evil usually isn't stupid. Hard to be evil when you keep messing up.

[Telconi]

They haven't actually reached that conclusion, they're just lying to push an agenda. Evil, not stupid.

Evil usually isn't stupid. Hard to be evil when you keep messing up.

Given the number of people who advocate for banning assault weapons, they aren't messing up.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Evil usually isn't stupid. Hard to be evil when you keep messing up.

Given the number of people who advocate for banning assault weapons, they aren't messing up.

Exactly why they are evil rather than stupid. Also, the fuck even is an "assault weapon"?

[Gig em Aggies]

Given the number of people who advocate for banning assault weapons, they aren't messing up.

Exactly why they are evil rather than stupid. Also, the fuck even is an "assault weapon"?

An assault weapon is just a term developed by Eugene Stoner creator of the original AR-15 which became the M-16 then the M-4 we use today. Also in this day and age Assault Rifle or Assault weapon is used as a toll of fear and propaganda by the left and gun control advocates to scare people into giving up there right to bear arms and surrender there lives to the wishes and fanatasies of crazy people out there in the world.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Exactly why they are evil rather than stupid. Also, the fuck even is an "assault weapon"?

An assault weapon is just a term developed by Eugene Stoner creator of the original AR-15 which became the M-16 then the M-4 we use today. Also in this day and age Assault Rifle or Assault weapon is used as a toll of fear and propaganda by the left and gun control advocates to scare people into giving up there right to bear arms and surrender there lives to the wishes and fanatasies of crazy people out there in the world.

Sorry mate, but the left aren't the ones advocating gun control, that would be the liberals. Of course, "Assault Weapon" is mostly a smear for any gun that looks dangerous. I didn't know it was used to describe the AR-15.

[Grinning Dragon]

One of those things that make you go hmmmm.
Gun from Chicago buy-back program found near dead gang member in police shooting

Chicago, Illinois- According to an AGG report, William Stewart Boyd traded his father’s old .38 caliber Smith & Wesson snub nose for less than $100 in a gun buyback in 2004. It was supposed to be destroyed, but somehow the same handgun with serial number J515268 was found next to a dead body involved in a police shooting eight years later.

Boyd, a judge in Cook County, had taken the handgun to a South Side church in Chicago, Illinois where he handed it over to a pair of plainclothes officers with badges on their belts....

We all know gun buybacks are bullshit, have zero impact on crime, are a waste of taxpayers money. I've often wondered how many of those turned in, ended up in someone's collection or to be used as a "plant gun". Inquiring minds would like to know.

[Asle Leopolka]

One of those things that make you go hmmmm.
Gun from Chicago buy-back program found near dead gang member in police shooting

Chicago, Illinois- According to an AGG report, William Stewart Boyd traded his father’s old .38 caliber Smith & Wesson snub nose for less than $100 in a gun buyback in 2004. It was supposed to be destroyed, but somehow the same handgun with serial number J515268 was found next to a dead body involved in a police shooting eight years later.

Boyd, a judge in Cook County, had taken the handgun to a South Side church in Chicago, Illinois where he handed it over to a pair of plainclothes officers with badges on their belts....

We all know gun buybacks are bullshit, have zero impact on crime, are a waste of taxpayers money. I've often wondered how many of those turned in, ended up in someone's collection or to be used as a "plant gun". Inquiring minds would like to know.

Chicago is corrupt as fuck. I wouldn't be surprised if those guns were sold off to third parties.

[Grinning Dragon]

Interesting read..
Science: Fewer people are killed when mass murderers use ‘high capacity’ magazines

[Pax Nerdvana]

Interesting read..
Science: Fewer people are killed when mass murderers use ‘high capacity’ magazines

I love facts and logic.

[Kernen]

Finally in a position to carry concealed again, and I have discovered that dress pants and dress belts are entirely inadequate to support a full inside-the-waistband holster.

Life was certainly easier with work duds and boots than with suits and ties.

[Gig em Aggies]

Finally in a position to carry concealed again, and I have discovered that dress pants and dress belts are entirely inadequate to support a full inside-the-waistband holster.

Life was certainly easier with work duds and boots than with suits and ties.

they make long neck socks for a reason you know.

[Kernen]

Finally in a position to carry concealed again, and I have discovered that dress pants and dress belts are entirely inadequate to support a full inside-the-waistband holster.

Life was certainly easier with work duds and boots than with suits and ties.

they make long neck socks for a reason you know.

like an ankle holster? My piece is small, but not that small.

[Grinning Dragon]

Supreme Courts tells brady-bunch thundercunts to fuck off.
Supreme Court Finally Ends Brady Campaign Suit Against Armslist Over 2012 Spa Shooting

The Supreme Court won’t revive a lawsuit against a firearms website over a suburban Milwaukee spa shooting.

The justices rejected an appeal Monday from the daughter of one of three people shot to death by a man who illegally bought a semi-automatic pistol and ammunition from someone he met through Armslist.com.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court dismissed the suit, ruling that federal law protects website operators from liability for posting content from a third party. The state court rejected arguments that websites that enable gun deals must take reasonable care to prevent sales to people prohibited from purchasing firearms. The Wisconsin shooter was under a court order that prohibited him from possessing guns.

A similar lawsuit filed by a Boston police officer is pending in state court in Massachusetts.

How this suit got this far to begin with is mind boggling.

Also coming up on Dec. 2nd, starts oral arguments in New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. City of New York at the Supreme Court.
The New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Supreme Court Case Circus is Coming to DC

[The Two Jerseys]

How is it that when the government actually comes up with a reasonable idea for gun safety, they somehow still manage to turn it into fascist dickery?

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/johnny-olszewski-melissa-hyatt-announce-safe-act-to-keep-guns-off-streets-in-baltimore-county/29962863

[Grinning Dragon]

How is it that when the government actually comes up with a reasonable idea for gun safety, they somehow still manage to turn it into fascist dickery?

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/johnny-olszewski-melissa-hyatt-announce-safe-act-to-keep-guns-off-streets-in-baltimore-county/29962863

Christ. Nothing like, punishing the victims of theft. No matter what the victim is automatically at fault, because guns.

[Cantelo]

Oh cool, I've written a 5-page 8-page research paper on this topic for a composition class.

Edit: double-checked my paper, it was 8 pages

My conclusion was that it boils down to the attitude that Americans have when it comes to fear, mental health, and guns being seen as a badass/cool thing to use to solve your problems (and also, as an acceptable means to solve your problems).

This is a fantastic TED talk on the topic of guns and how we've been conditioned to see firearms as a means to keep away our fears, and that's turned into a chronic paranoia in which firearms are seen as the only method of keeping away our fears and killing somebody in the name of self defense is almost fantasized about.

As for mental health, guns are seen as a "way out" for a long of things. They're seen as a way to vent anger, to end suffering, to get revenge, and I believe that unstable or bullied people will see firearms as a way to express the way they feel. Therapy, counseling, and expressing one's emotions to confidant isn't advocated for enough and it leads to tragedies that never needed to happen. I really think we need to change the perception of mental health in this country and make it more available to people that need it, and this perception that guns are a solution to one's problems needs to be done away with. You don't see school massacres where a kid runs students down with their car as they're going home even though it can easily be done, because cars don't have that same perception; its guns.

I also believe that gun safety needs to be taught in public schools, at minimum as an elective. We live in a country where guns are so prevalent that it would make sense to have a gun safety course much like there are driving safety courses offered in high schools. We need to make people see firearms as just another tool; one that deserves to be respected and taken extremely seriously. Most little kids know not to get into their parents' car and drive around, and many don't have the means to do that. The same needs to be taught to little kids when dealing with guns, and when they're older (high school age maybe?) they can be taught how to safely handle them.

I really do not believe that gun control is a viable solution. It's an attempt at merely treating a symptom when there are far more complex sources of the issue at work.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Oh cool, I've written a 5-page 8-page research paper on this topic for a composition class.

Edit: double-checked my paper, it was 8 pages

My conclusion was that it boils down to the attitude that Americans have when it comes to fear, mental health, and guns being seen as a badass/cool thing to use to solve your problems (and also, as an acceptable means to solve your problems).

This is a fantastic TED talk on the topic of guns and how we've been conditioned to see firearms as a means to keep away our fears, and that's turned into a chronic paranoia in which firearms are seen as the only method of keeping away our fears and killing somebody in the name of self defense is almost fantasized about.

As for mental health, guns are seen as a "way out" for a long of things. They're seen as a way to vent anger, to end suffering, to get revenge, and I believe that unstable or bullied people will see firearms as a way to express the way they feel. Therapy, counseling, and expressing one's emotions to confidant isn't advocated for enough and it leads to tragedies that never needed to happen. I really think we need to change the perception of mental health in this country and make it more available to people that need it, and this perception that guns are a solution to one's problems needs to be done away with. You don't see school massacres where a kid runs students down with their car as they're going home even though it can easily be done, because cars don't have that same perception; its guns.

I also believe that gun safety needs to be taught in public schools, at minimum as an elective. We live in a country where guns are so prevalent that it would make sense to have a gun safety course much like there are driving safety courses offered in high schools. We need to make people see firearms as just another tool; one that deserves to be respected and taken extremely seriously. Most little kids know not to get into their parents' car and drive around, and many don't have the means to do that. The same needs to be taught to little kids when dealing with guns, and when they're older (high school age maybe?) they can be taught how to safely handle them.

I really do not believe that gun control is a viable solution. It's an attempt at merely treating a symptom when there are far more complex sources of the issue at work.

I know I've brought up the gun safety elective idea before. It's a darn good idea.

[Asle Leopolka]

1. Go to google
2. Search "gun control"
3. Look at the first result

[Gig em Aggies]

1. Go to google
2. Search "gun control"
3. Look at the first result

whats the point we all know that the Democratic party is all about violating the Constitution w/o legitimate cause

[West Leas Oros 2]

1. Go to google
2. Search "gun control"
3. Look at the first result

Uh... A wikipedia article?