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Ban modern sporting rifles
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Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
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Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
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Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
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Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
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Postby Bovad » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:29 pm

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:00 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:I have to laugh at this:

https://nypost.com/2022/09/10/la-mayora ... from-home/

An anti-gun politician had 2 firearms stolen from her house, with no other items (cash, electronics, jewelry, etc) stolen. So it's ok for her to own firearms (and be careless with them), but we unwashed masses can't be trusted with them? She can pound sand.

It's amazing how the thieves bypassed the cash, jewelry, and electronics and made a beeline for the "safely and securely stored" guns.

Almost like the "thieves" knew they were there...
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:13 pm

Andronya wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:I have to laugh at this:

https://nypost.com/2022/09/10/la-mayora ... from-home/

An anti-gun politician had 2 firearms stolen from her house, with no other items (cash, electronics, jewelry, etc) stolen. So it's ok for her to own firearms (and be careless with them), but we unwashed masses can't be trusted with them? She can pound sand.

What else can you expect from an anti-gun politician? Rules for thee, but not for me.

??? she wasn't anti gun?
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Andronya wrote:What else can you expect from an anti-gun politician? Rules for thee, but not for me.

??? she wasn't anti gun?


Why lie?

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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:34 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:??? she wasn't anti gun?


Why lie?

I dunno, why would people lie and say she's anti-gun?
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:39 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Why lie?

I dunno, why would people lie and say she's anti-gun?


I don't know what thrill telling blatant and easily disprovable lies on the internet brings you, but maybe you ought to quit?

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:40 pm

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Apparently, one where Antifa laughably are some sort of "good guys" :lol:


That doesn't track since in the real world Antifascists are in fact the good guys.

In comparison to the current regime, fascism, even if not an ideal form of government, would be a major improvement.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:41 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:I dunno, why would people lie and say she's anti-gun?


I don't know what thrill telling blatant and easily disprovable lies on the internet brings you, but maybe you ought to quit?

Why are you speaking in the second person?
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:41 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:I have to laugh at this:

https://nypost.com/2022/09/10/la-mayora ... from-home/

An anti-gun politician had 2 firearms stolen from her house, with no other items (cash, electronics, jewelry, etc) stolen. So it's ok for her to own firearms (and be careless with them), but we unwashed masses can't be trusted with them? She can pound sand.

Just a reminder as to whom San Francisco county issued concealed carry permits to...
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:44 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I don't know what thrill telling blatant and easily disprovable lies on the internet brings you, but maybe you ought to quit?

Why are you speaking in the second person?

While campaigning for Congress in 2010, Bass supported legislation that with other regulations would have required all gun dealers to report sales to the federal government.

Bass participated in the 2016 sit-in against gun violence in the House of Representatives. Democratic members of Congress adopted the slogan "No Bill, No Break" in an attempt to push the introduction of legislation making it more difficult for Americans to own guns for self-protection.


Following a burglary of her home in the Baldwin Vista neighborhood of Los Angeles in 2022, Bass confirmed that two legally registered handguns she owned had been stolen.[58]

Bass strongly supports legislation to prohibit the sale, transfer, manufacture, and importation of semiautomatic weapons and ammunition-feeding devices capable of accepting more than ten rounds in the United States. In 2019, she voted in favor of legislation to require a background check for every firearm sale[59] and to close the loophole that allowed a gun to be acquired in the Charleston church massacre.[60]

Looks like he was referring to you.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:45 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why are you speaking in the second person?

While campaigning for Congress in 2010, Bass supported legislation that with other regulations would have required all gun dealers to report sales to the federal government.

Bass participated in the 2016 sit-in against gun violence in the House of Representatives. Democratic members of Congress adopted the slogan "No Bill, No Break" in an attempt to push the introduction of legislation making it more difficult for Americans to own guns for self-protection.


Following a burglary of her home in the Baldwin Vista neighborhood of Los Angeles in 2022, Bass confirmed that two legally registered handguns she owned had been stolen.[58]

Bass strongly supports legislation to prohibit the sale, transfer, manufacture, and importation of semiautomatic weapons and ammunition-feeding devices capable of accepting more than ten rounds in the United States. In 2019, she voted in favor of legislation to require a background check for every firearm sale[59] and to close the loophole that allowed a gun to be acquired in the Charleston church massacre.[60]

Looks like he was referring to you.

I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:48 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:
Looks like he was referring to you.

I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.

Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:50 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.

Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.


It's not worth the effort, Necro would deny the sun existed if it advanced their own hate.

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:54 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.


It's not worth the effort, Necro would deny the sun existed if it advanced their own hate.

I feel like bashing my head against a wall today.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:01 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.


It's not worth the effort, Necro would deny the sun existed if it advanced their own hate.

Says the one who thinks about guns before the environment, bodily sovereignty, voting rights, and on and on... You would know about ignorance in service of hate.
Diopolis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.

Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.

Eh, like I said, I forgot this was the thread where one is meant to leave common sense at the door. Apologies for my concealed carry.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:22 pm

Andronya wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:I have to laugh at this:

https://nypost.com/2022/09/10/la-mayora ... from-home/

An anti-gun politician had 2 firearms stolen from her house, with no other items (cash, electronics, jewelry, etc) stolen. So it's ok for her to own firearms (and be careless with them), but we unwashed masses can't be trusted with them? She can pound sand.

What else can you expect from an anti-gun politician? Rules for thee, but not for me.


The funny thing is, she claims the 2 pistols were secured in a Brinks lock box. The problem is, if the lock box isn't attached to anything, then were the firearms REALLY secured?
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:26 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Andronya wrote:What else can you expect from an anti-gun politician? Rules for thee, but not for me.


The funny thing is, she claims the 2 pistols were secured in a Brinks lock box. The problem is, if the lock box isn't attached to anything, then were the firearms REALLY secured?


I doubt they were in a lockbox in the first place.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:11 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
It's not worth the effort, Necro would deny the sun existed if it advanced their own hate.

Says the one who thinks about guns before the environment, bodily sovereignty, voting rights, and on and on... You would know about ignorance in service of hate.
Diopolis wrote:Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.

Eh, like I said, I forgot this was the thread where one is meant to leave common sense at the door. Apologies for my concealed carry.

Tbf trying to ban most common guns in use today is pretty anti-gun.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:38 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Andronya wrote:What else can you expect from an anti-gun politician? Rules for thee, but not for me.


The funny thing is, she claims the 2 pistols were secured in a Brinks lock box. The problem is, if the lock box isn't attached to anything, then were the firearms REALLY secured?

Yeah, there ain’t much point to a lockbox if it’s not bolted down.
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Postby Sordhau » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:53 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:
Looks like he was referring to you.

I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.


Gun control by definition is anti-gun. Whoever controls the arms and ammunition has the power; the purpose of gun control is to restrict who has access to arms and ammunition. As gun control disproportionately affects the poor and minorities and is primarily pushed by the wealthy and privileged it's very clear who wants control of the arms and ammunition and who they don't want to have access to them. As for the "why", well, take a guess. Hint: it's not about "public safety".
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:25 pm

Sordhau wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:I don't see how.
Ah, right, I'm in the gun thread, common sense (like gun control does not mean anti gun) does not apply. My b.


Gun control by definition is anti-gun. Whoever controls the arms and ammunition has the power; the purpose of gun control is to restrict who has access to arms and ammunition. As gun control disproportionately affects the poor and minorities and is primarily pushed by the wealthy and privileged it's very clear who wants control of the arms and ammunition and who they don't want to have access to them. As for the "why", well, take a guess. Hint: it's not about "public safety".

Make a law forcing the wealthy to sell their guns to the poor at an affordable rate?
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:32 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Gun control by definition is anti-gun. Whoever controls the arms and ammunition has the power; the purpose of gun control is to restrict who has access to arms and ammunition. As gun control disproportionately affects the poor and minorities and is primarily pushed by the wealthy and privileged it's very clear who wants control of the arms and ammunition and who they don't want to have access to them. As for the "why", well, take a guess. Hint: it's not about "public safety".

Make a law forcing the wealthy to sell their guns to the poor at an affordable rate?


Or Tax payer subsidized gun purchases
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:36 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Make a law forcing the wealthy to sell their guns to the poor at an affordable rate?


Or Tax payer subsidized gun purchases


Munitions stamps when?

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Postby The Chuck » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:03 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
It's not worth the effort, Necro would deny the sun existed if it advanced their own hate.

Says the one who thinks about guns before the environment, bodily sovereignty, voting rights, and on and on... You would know about ignorance in service of hate.
Diopolis wrote:Gun control which serves no purpose except to irritate law abiding gun owners(like an assault weapons ban) is pretty anti-gun.

Eh, like I said, I forgot this was the thread where one is meant to leave common sense at the door. Apologies for my concealed carry.


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Postby Adamede » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:39 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Why lie?

I dunno, why would people lie and say she's anti-gun?

I mean those are all anti-gun positions.
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