Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Grinning Dragon]

I feel like getting an AK and an A.R. 15, designating the AK for defense against proud boys and far right extremists, and the A.R. 15 to protect me against antifa and far-left extremists.

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Is your snark meter broken? Re-read it again.

[The Two Jerseys]

They can't do that, can they? You can't ban knives, they're simply too easy to make, and they're needed in every house and workplace.

Britain already did.

First they came for me Scottish claymore, but I said nothing for I had no Scottish claymore...

... I just pictured a scottish claymore-roomba.

Not as good as the Boomba.

[Bovad]

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Is your snark meter broken? Re-read it again.

I have. It sounds like someones legitimate opinion. A bad one, but an opinion nevertheless.

[Grinning Dragon]

Is your snark meter broken? Re-read it again.

I have. It sounds like someones legitimate opinion. A bad one, but an opinion nevertheless.

I see. So no issues on employing a combloc firearm against the proud boys, but has an issue with using a capitalist firearm against antifa and cannot enjoy the irony for irony sake.

[Prima Scriptura]

I feel like getting an AK and an A.R. 15, designating the AK for defense against proud boys and far right extremists, and the A.R. 15 to protect me against antifa and far-left extremists.

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Antifa considers anyone who is not a anarcho-communist “fascist”. Especially people like myself.

[American Legionaries]

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Antifa considers anyone who is not a anarcho-communist “fascist”. Especially people like myself.

At this point I'm presuming that Bovad concurs with their assessment of who's a fascist.

[Bovad]

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Antifa considers anyone who is not a anarcho-communist “fascist”. Especially people like myself.

Antifa is not a group.

[Juristonia]

If you're scared by people calling themself antifascistthen you seriously have to reconsider where you stand.

Antifa considers anyone who is not a anarcho-communist “fascist”. Especially people like myself.

This isn't the first time you've made weird sweeping declarations about antifa that simply aren't true.
I'm antifa. I'm not an ancom, in any sense of the word. I have yet to be accused of fascism.

Maybe like, learn about things before pretending to have knowledge on them.

[American Legionaries]

Antifa considers anyone who is not a anarcho-communist “fascist”. Especially people like myself.

Antifa is not a group.

So how does being scared of them indicate anything?

[Bovad]

Antifa is not a group.

So how does being scared of them indicate anything?

It is a self description.

[American Legionaries]

So how does being scared of them indicate anything?

It is a self description.

So it means nothing.

[Bovad]

It is a self description.

So it means nothing.

Yes, except their willingness to make up boogeymen.

[American Legionaries]

So it means nothing.

Yes, except their willingness to make up boogeymen.

Seems potentially scary to me.

[Prima Scriptura]

Quite honestly, I’ve seen more pro-gun right-wingers wanting to disarm pro-gun left-wingers. Anti-gun folks just want to disarm everyone.

[American Legionaries]

Quite honestly, I’ve seen more pro-gun right-wingers wanting to disarm pro-gun left-wingers. Anti-gun folks just want to disarm everyone.

I've yet to see someone seriously propose the disarming of everyone, much less have any reasonable explanation on how to go about it.

[Bovad]

Quite honestly, I’ve seen more pro-gun right-wingers wanting to disarm pro-gun left-wingers. Anti-gun folks just want to disarm everyone.

I've yet to see someone seriously propose the disarming of everyone, much less have any reasonable explanation on how to go about it.

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

[American Legionaries]

I've yet to see someone seriously propose the disarming of everyone, much less have any reasonable explanation on how to go about it.

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

I'm sure you have a reasonable explanation how the secondary recoil spring and reversible magazine catch on the fourth generation Glock pistol makes the owner a "dangerous person"...

[The Two Jerseys]

I've yet to see someone seriously propose the disarming of everyone, much less have any reasonable explanation on how to go about it.

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

Nobody* wants to disarm anyone.
_{*Except for Robert Francis O'Rourke, Mike Bloomberg, Karens Demand Action...}

[American Legionaries]

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

Nobody* wants to disarm anyone.
_{*Except for Robert Francis O'Rourke, Mike Bloomberg, Karens Demand Action...}

Silly Jerseys, you can't hold the Democrats accountable for what they say and do, the policies they promote and enact are just boogeymen, or something.

[Adamede]

I've yet to see someone seriously propose the disarming of everyone, much less have any reasonable explanation on how to go about it.

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

In what world do you live in?

[Diopolis]

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

Nobody* wants to disarm anyone.
_{*Except for Robert Francis O'Rourke, Mike Bloomberg, Karens Demand Action...}

Wait for November fourth and watch Bobby lose again.
I mean, it's to Greg Abbott, but still...

[Grinning Dragon]

Interesting lil survey of just shy of 17k sample size.
2021 National Firearms Survey: Updated Analysis Including Types of Firearms Owned

This report summarizes the findings of a national survey of firearms ownership and use conducted between February 17th and March 23rd, 2021 by the professional survey firm Centiment. This survey, which is part of a larger book project, aims to provide the most comprehensive assessment of firearms ownership and use patterns in America to date. This online survey was administered to a representative sample of approximately fifty-four thousand U.S. residents aged 18 and over, and it identified 16,708 gun owners who were, in turn, asked in-depth questions about their ownership and their use of firearms, including defensive uses of firearms.

Consistent with other recent survey research, the survey finds an overall rate of adult firearm ownership of 31.9%, suggesting that in excess of 81.4 million Americans aged 18 and over own firearms. The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of thirty (3.2%) occurred at work.

A majority of gun owners (56.2%) indicate that they carry a handgun for self-defense in at least some circumstances, and about 35% of gun owners report carrying a handgun with some frequency. We estimate that approximately 20.7 million gun owners (26.3%) carry a handgun in public under a ``concealed carry'' regime; and 34.9% of gun owners report that there have been instances in which they had wanted to carry a handgun for self-defense, but local rules did not allow them to carry.

The average gun owner owns about 5 firearms, and handguns are the most common type of firearm owned. 48.0% of gun owners -- about 39 million individuals -- have owned magazines that hold over 10 rounds (up to 542 million such magazines in total), and 30.2% of gun owners -- about 24.6 million individuals -- have owned an AR-15 or similarly styled rifle (up to 44 million such rifles in total). Demographically, gun owners are diverse. 42.2% are female and 57.8% are male. Approximately 25.4% of Blacks own firearms, 28.3% of Hispanics own firearms, 19.4% of Asians own firearms, and 34.3% of Whites own firearms. In total, Americans own over 415 million firearms, consisting of approximately 171 million handguns, 146 million rifles, and 98 million shotguns.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Interesting lil survey of just shy of 17k sample size.
2021 National Firearms Survey: Updated Analysis Including Types of Firearms Owned

This report summarizes the findings of a national survey of firearms ownership and use conducted between February 17th and March 23rd, 2021 by the professional survey firm Centiment. This survey, which is part of a larger book project, aims to provide the most comprehensive assessment of firearms ownership and use patterns in America to date. This online survey was administered to a representative sample of approximately fifty-four thousand U.S. residents aged 18 and over, and it identified 16,708 gun owners who were, in turn, asked in-depth questions about their ownership and their use of firearms, including defensive uses of firearms.

Consistent with other recent survey research, the survey finds an overall rate of adult firearm ownership of 31.9%, suggesting that in excess of 81.4 million Americans aged 18 and over own firearms. The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of thirty (3.2%) occurred at work.

A majority of gun owners (56.2%) indicate that they carry a handgun for self-defense in at least some circumstances, and about 35% of gun owners report carrying a handgun with some frequency. We estimate that approximately 20.7 million gun owners (26.3%) carry a handgun in public under a ``concealed carry'' regime; and 34.9% of gun owners report that there have been instances in which they had wanted to carry a handgun for self-defense, but local rules did not allow them to carry.

The average gun owner owns about 5 firearms, and handguns are the most common type of firearm owned. 48.0% of gun owners -- about 39 million individuals -- have owned magazines that hold over 10 rounds (up to 542 million such magazines in total), and 30.2% of gun owners -- about 24.6 million individuals -- have owned an AR-15 or similarly styled rifle (up to 44 million such rifles in total). Demographically, gun owners are diverse. 42.2% are female and 57.8% are male. Approximately 25.4% of Blacks own firearms, 28.3% of Hispanics own firearms, 19.4% of Asians own firearms, and 34.3% of Whites own firearms. In total, Americans own over 415 million firearms, consisting of approximately 171 million handguns, 146 million rifles, and 98 million shotguns.

I think 415 million is on the *low* end. 500 million is probably a better estimate.

[Saiwania]

Credit card users beware, Visa is joining MasterCard and American Express in categorizing gun sales separately from other items. This is allegedly implementing a new ISO standard. All of the payment processors are now going to track gun sales.

The pulse night club shooter for example, is rumored to have purchased $26,000 worth of guns and ammo right before doing that shooting. This could be flagged or stopped in future such scenario. It will perhaps be better to use cash instead, for the paranoid among us.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/vis ... separately

[Paddy O Fernature]

Nobody does. Disarmment is just a--once again--boogeyman. Some people just want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

In what world do you live in?

Apparently, one where Antifa laughably are some sort of "good guys"