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Gun Control 2021 (IV) - Biden, BATFE, & Braces

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:23 pm

Adamede wrote:
Galloism wrote:Gary Farmer, D - Fort Lauderdale has proposed an assault weapons ban and a high capacity magazine (>10 rounds) ban for the current legislative session.

In the gunshine state? Are you serious?

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?
Mass shootings that have gotten high kill counts is something that has been done numerous times before with firearms that wouldn’t be counted as “assault weapons”. More people are murdered m with common household objects than so called “assault weapons”. The entire dejection of what is and isn’t an “assault weapon is based purely on cosmetic features. So how does one justify to themselves that an AWB is a good idea?


Just to add in addition to what 2 Jerz just said, gun control isn't about safety, it's strictly about control and a limitation of an enumerated right they hate, and believe the unwashed masses shouldn't be able to defend themselves even though those wankstains who believe they are our betters and have access to armed security feel safe and secure and such security should only apply to themselves.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:35 pm

Adamede wrote:What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?


The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:47 pm

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:56 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Adamede wrote:What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?


The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.


You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:01 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.


I know 10 rounds is arbitrary, but that is the precedent that exists for better or worse. In original AWB that only lasted for 10 years, 10 rounds or less came to be what is considered to be low capacity in US gun politics.

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Postby Adamede » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:06 pm

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Is it bad that I kinda want one?

Meme guns best guns.

Imho the best guns in this style are the Chiappa Rhinos made up to look like Destiny hand cannons.
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Postby Adamede » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:09 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Adamede wrote:What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?


The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.

Magazine capacity o my really offers an advantage against armed opponents.

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but mass shootings target unarmed targets. Gun free zones are a particular favorite it seems.

I suggest you look up the University of Texas tower shootings. 18 people killed with a fixed magazine bolt action hunting rifle.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:18 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.


I know 10 rounds is arbitrary, but that is the precedent that exists for better or worse. In original AWB that only lasted for 10 years, 10 rounds or less came to be what is considered to be low capacity in US gun politics.

Isn't a precedent, it was arbitrarily latched onto after misconstruing a statement by Bill Ruger who had made some off the cuff remark about firearms don't need capacity beyond 10rds when out in the field hunting.
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Postby Window Land » Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:35 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:

Is it bad that I kinda want one?

I kinda also want one, but I also kinda want to get rid of them all- seems like a great way to cause an accidental shooting.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:36 pm

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Is it bad that I kinda want one?

Yes, it looks like it would be a bitch to clear the stoppages when that drum inevitably fails to feed.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:43 pm

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Adamede wrote:What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?
Mass shootings that have gotten high kill counts is something that has been done numerous times before with firearms that wouldn’t be counted as “assault weapons”. More people are murdered m with common household objects than so called “assault weapons”. The entire dejection of what is and isn’t an “assault weapon is based purely on cosmetic features. So how does one justify to themselves that an AWB is a good idea?

It doesn't need to work, it just needs to convince white suburban housewives who have been spoon-fed propaganda that little Tyler and Dakota are going to be gunned down by the classmate they've been allowed to get away with bullying for so long with a scary black rifle to vote Democrat.

More or less to set a precedent as to what sorts of bull they are allowed to pass, and when that inevitably doesn't work they just say they didn't nearly go far enough and expand the scope to extents that wouldn't have originally been able to pass on current enforcement of constitutional grounds.

More or less they think the US system of laws works exactly like the British system.... It don't.
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Postby The Chuck » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:35 am

If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...
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Postby Adamede » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 am

The Chuck wrote:If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:16 am

Adamede wrote:
The Chuck wrote:If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.


Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

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Postby The Chuck » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:21 am

Adamede wrote:
The Chuck wrote:If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.


*cough*...

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Postby Adamede » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:45 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Adamede wrote:Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.


Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:21 pm

Adamede wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9

Repeating pipe gun.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:11 pm

Adamede wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9


That is like Luty 2.0, I want Luty 1.5 update patch; more metal than plastic, but you still have plastic to provide some comfort.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:08 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Adamede wrote:Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9


That is like Luty 2.0, I want Luty 1.5 update patch; more metal than plastic, but you still have plastic to provide some comfort.

Wooden "Pre-Carbon-Fibre" AR-15 with a third hole.

Although if going that route, may as well re-work the hammer and trigger system into an open-bolt semi-auto.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:12 am

FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:08 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.


As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.


As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.

Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:26 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.

Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.

Does that hag want quorum calls? Because this is how you get quorum calls.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:59 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.

Does that hag want quorum calls? Because this is how you get quorum calls.

The ol whore wants one party rule, her party as they think they know what's best for us.

Also, I find it suspiciously convenient over these last two shootings, with a slew of anti gun bullshit bills languishing in the senate, it's enough to make my spidey senses tingle.
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I prefer Dangerous Freedom over peaceful slavery! Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Gun-Control is the belief that declawing the cat will protect it against other animals; also why are anti-gun people so violent?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery!
Socialism- the herpes of economic systems.
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead. Proud American infidel since the 1970's-Deus Vult
The made up term "toxic masculinity" is founded on nonsense psychologism

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