Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Pax Nerdvana]

Yeah, I think record keeping started in the late '60s ('68?). That's a good point about tools. While I don't have the space for anything like a drill press (unfortunately), I think I could build a simple zip gun with nothing more then common hand tools.
Lathes are a lot of fun. I wish I had one.

There's that in regards to zip guns, also slam fire type guns.
Oh, also better ban chemistry. I mean basic black powder consists of Salt Peter, Charcoal, Sulfur, one can also use sugar and or honey in recipes.

While we're at it, also ban powder actuated fastners, matches, brass tubing, cap guns, fireworks, and starter pistols.

[Aclion]

Also literally any cleaning agent. In the end there's much nastier stuff your can make then guns.

[The Two Jerseys]

There's that in regards to zip guns, also slam fire type guns.
Oh, also better ban chemistry. I mean basic black powder consists of Salt Peter, Charcoal, Sulfur, one can also use sugar and or honey in recipes.

While we're at it, also ban powder actuated fastners, matches, brass tubing, cap guns, fireworks, and starter pistols.

Better ban PVC pipe and air compressors too, potato cannons are just grenade launchers.

[Saiwania]

The current state of gun ownership in the US isn't the most ideal for gun control, but it doesn't look like it'd be impossible either.

One factor to take into account is that only 3% of the US population is said to own 50% of the gun supply within the US. The distribution of guns is very uneven, so a crackdown would have an easier time collecting a ton of weaponry, even if it probably wouldn't be all of it. The more concentrated the efforts are towards that 3%, the more effective. Half the job of a gun purge practically speaking, could be done in one fell swoop.

The state with the fewest guns is rumored to be Delaware, whilst the state with the highest gun ownership rate is Alaska. We more or less have lots of people with only one or a few firearms (mostly handguns) with an extreme minority owning vast collections if not many, with the rest (primarily urbanites) owning no guns. The more guns someone has, the harder it is to move it all and etc. which makes it more vulnerable to seizure if a police state at the local or national level went in that direction.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hip-survey

[Grinning Dragon]

The current state of gun ownership in the US isn't the most ideal for gun control, but it doesn't look like it'd be impossible either.

One factor to take into account is that only 3% of the US population is said to own 50% of the gun supply within the US. The rate of gun ownership is very uneven, so a crackdown would have an easier time collecting a ton of weaponry, even if it probably wouldn't be all of it. The more concentrated the efforts are towards that 3%, the more effective. Half the job of a gun purge practically speaking, could be done in one fell swoop.

The state with the fewest guns is rumored to be Delaware, whilst the state with the highest gun ownership rate is Alaska. We more or less have lots of people with only one or a few firearms (mostly handguns) with an extreme minority owning vast collections if not many. The more guns someone has, the harder it is to move it all and etc. which makes it more vulnerable to seizure if a police state at the local or national level went in that direction.

The underlined is pure bullshit, total firearm ownership is an unknown always has been always will be, however it is way higher than just 3%.

[Enormous Gentiles]

The current state of gun ownership in the US isn't the most ideal for gun control, but it doesn't look like it'd be impossible either.

One factor to take into account is that only 3% of the US population is said to own 50% of the gun supply within the US. The distribution of guns is very uneven, so a crackdown would have an easier time collecting a ton of weaponry, even if it probably wouldn't be all of it. The more concentrated the efforts are towards that 3%, the more effective. Half the job of a gun purge practically speaking, could be done in one fell swoop.

The state with the fewest guns is rumored to be Delaware, whilst the state with the highest gun ownership rate is Alaska. We more or less have lots of people with only one or a few firearms (mostly handguns) with an extreme minority owning vast collections if not many, with the rest (primarily urbanites) owning no guns. The more guns someone has, the harder it is to move it all and etc. which makes it more vulnerable to seizure if a police state at the local or national level went in that direction.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hip-survey

Three percent of the U.S. population is about ten million people.

Good luck with that One Fell Swoop thing.

[Grinning Dragon]

The current state of gun ownership in the US isn't the most ideal for gun control, but it doesn't look like it'd be impossible either.

One factor to take into account is that only 3% of the US population is said to own 50% of the gun supply within the US. The distribution of guns is very uneven, so a crackdown would have an easier time collecting a ton of weaponry, even if it probably wouldn't be all of it. The more concentrated the efforts are towards that 3%, the more effective. Half the job of a gun purge practically speaking, could be done in one fell swoop.

The state with the fewest guns is rumored to be Delaware, whilst the state with the highest gun ownership rate is Alaska. We more or less have lots of people with only one or a few firearms (mostly handguns) with an extreme minority owning vast collections if not many, with the rest (primarily urbanites) owning no guns. The more guns someone has, the harder it is to move it all and etc. which makes it more vulnerable to seizure if a police state at the local or national level went in that direction.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hip-survey

Three percent of the U.S. population is about ten million people.

Good luck with that One Fell Swoop thing.

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

[The Chuck]

Three percent of the U.S. population is about ten million people.

Good luck with that One Fell Swoop thing.

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

Funny how someone who is known to be quite authoritarian is yucking up about taking away the citizenry's weapons...

Saiwana, if you want to try and see if those numbers are accurate, I suggest you to go knocking door to door ordering people to hand over their firearms. You might learn better statistics. /s

[Telconi]

Three percent of the U.S. population is about ten million people.

Good luck with that One Fell Swoop thing.

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

Those ten million people would need to own about 20 guns each to account for 50% of U.S. civilian gun ownsership.

Not unlikely, tbh. I imagine a good few of us here fall in that club.

[Grinning Dragon]

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

Those ten million people would need to own about 20 guns each to account for 50% of U.S. civilian gun ownsership.

Not unlikely, tbh. I imagine a good few of us here fall in that club.

Well to make it simple, we can use the high end number of 600 million and that would come out to be 30 per person of that 10 million.

[Galloism]

Three percent of the U.S. population is about ten million people.

Good luck with that One Fell Swoop thing.

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

Well, we THINK there's about 450 million civilian guns, +/-.

So that would mean the average member of that 3% owns 22.5 guns.

... I don't think I know a single person who owns 22 guns. I know a few who own 4 or 5.

[Telconi]

Well going by the article, it is saying that 10million(circa) own 50% of the total firearms in the US.
Still an impossible task, let alone it's bullshit as the total number owned by any one person is going to be an unknown let alone the total number of firearms in private hands.

Well, we THINK there's about 450 million civilian guns, +/-.

So that would mean the average member of that 3% owns 22.5 guns.

... I don't think I know a single person who owns 22 guns. I know a few who own 4 or 5.

*Waves*

[Galloism]

Well, we THINK there's about 450 million civilian guns, +/-.

So that would mean the average member of that 3% owns 22.5 guns.

... I don't think I know a single person who owns 22 guns. I know a few who own 4 or 5.

*Waves*

Ok, one.

[The Chuck]

*Waves*

Ok, one.

I'm working on it... But I have 8 close friends who own 22+

17 of them have NFA items.

[Germanic Templars]

Ok, one.

I'm working on it... But I have 8 close friends who own 22+

17 of them have NFA items.

1934 NFA is unconstitutional, just as a friendly reminder.

[Gig em Aggies]

I'm working on it... But I have 8 close friends who own 22+

17 of them have NFA items.

1934 NFA is unconstitutional, just as a friendly reminder.

Not to worry I know a spot where you could have an unfortunate boating accident

[Saiwania]

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#

Joe Biden's full agenda on guns. If he becomes President this year, we have to assume that one or more of those points will get through into law unless Republicans keep the House or Senate or both. The one silver lining is that the GOP hold on the judiciary is likely to be more iron clad at this point but no guarantee given how duplicitous courts are. John Roberts for example, upheld Obamacare's individual mandate as a tax, even when it clearly wasn't. The IRS had nothing to do with passing that law.

Joe Biden helped write the original Assault Weapons Ban that happened in 1994.

[Grinning Dragon]

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#

Joe Biden's full agenda on guns. If he becomes President this year, we have to assume that one or more of those points will get through into law unless Republicans keep the House or Senate or both. The one silver lining is that the GOP hold on the judiciary is likely to be more iron clad at this point but no guarantee given how duplicitous courts are. John Roberts for example, upheld Obamacare's individual mandate as a tax, even when it clearly wasn't. The IRS had nothing to do with passing that law.

Joe Biden helped write the original Assault Weapons Ban that happened in 1994.

I don't need a link to know what dipshit biden's stance is on fucking over the people's right to keep and bear arms.
The original AWB was a mistake.

[Germanic Templars]

1934 NFA is unconstitutional, just as a friendly reminder.

Not to worry I know a spot where you could have an unfortunate boating accident

I don't want a boating accident, I want a machinegun. One that I can take to a range and fire with such an effect, it would make the old fudds scoff at such absurdity being used on the range.

[The Chuck]

Not to worry I know a spot where you could have an unfortunate boating accident

I don't want a boating accident, I want a machinegun. One that I can take to a range and fire with such an effect, it would make the old fudds scoff at such absurdity being used on the range.

^

[Novus America]

With how bad America is becoming as the election approaches, I'm gonna need to buy as many weapons as I can possibly get.

You know I'm pretty sure Mexico is safer then some places in the US right now. Plus I wouldn't mind visiting again after 11 years when I went there for a cruise.

It is very difficult to legally get guns in Mexico though. I mean sure you can still get them illegally with little difficulty but there is still risk someone turns you over. Unless you go full cartel, you are still at risk from the cops.

[Telconi]

Not to worry I know a spot where you could have an unfortunate boating accident

I don't want a boating accident, I want a machinegun. One that I can take to a range and fire with such an effect, it would make the old fudds scoff at such absurdity being used on the range.

Are we still allowed to call old men with shotguns "Fudds" given that Elmer Fudd no longer has a shotgun?

[Germanic Templars]

I don't want a boating accident, I want a machinegun. One that I can take to a range and fire with such an effect, it would make the old fudds scoff at such absurdity being used on the range.

Are we still allowed to call old men with shotguns "Fudds" given that Elmer Fudd no longer has a shotgun?

Yes, we are allowed to do so, because even then, a fudd would agree you still don't need an AR.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Well, we THINK there's about 450 million civilian guns, +/-.

So that would mean the average member of that 3% owns 22.5 guns.

... I don't think I know a single person who owns 22 guns. I know a few who own 4 or 5.

*Waves*

*Two handed wave for double the fun*

[West Leas Oros 2]

I don't want a boating accident, I want a machinegun. One that I can take to a range and fire with such an effect, it would make the old fudds scoff at such absurdity being used on the range.

Are we still allowed to call old men with shotguns "Fudds" given that Elmer Fudd no longer has a shotgun?

He doesn't? How will he catch that wascally wabbit?