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Ban modern sporting rifles
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Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
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Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
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Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
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Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:41 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:Have you ever noticed that cities with the highest gun crimes are also cities that have the strictest gun laws. Just look at Chicago and New York City and you will see what I mean. Taking the guns from law abiding citizens isn't gonna solve gun violence.

That’s not strictly true, there are a few cities with low gun control but a fair bit of gun violence. I’d assume that what causes gun violence in all these cities are social ills related to poverty and a lack of effort to cure those ills.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:42 pm

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Telconi wrote:
So you believe in common sense gun reform? Me too!

But if we do that then the criminals will be using $10k machine guns to hold up a convenience store for $200! /s

They can try up until the point the manager comes out with an M2 on a shopping cart and guns them and their cover.

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Postby Deira Islands » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:45 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:But if we do that then the criminals will be using $10k machine guns to hold up a convenience store for $200! /s

They can try up until the point the manager comes out with an M2 on a shopping cart and guns them and their cover.

And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:54 pm

Deira Islands wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:They can try up until the point the manager comes out with an M2 on a shopping cart and guns them and their cover.

And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.


Nah, too expensive and might miss, best to use .50cal still since their shitbox is aluminum.

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:54 pm

Deira Islands wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:They can try up until the point the manager comes out with an M2 on a shopping cart and guns them and their cover.

And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.

Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.
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Postby The Chuck » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:10 pm

Well, I turned 21 today... Walked into my LGS and spoke with them and got their FFL information, I'll be buying a stripped lower over the weekend hopefully! Doing my part in fighting gun control. :)
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Postby Deira Islands » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:15 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Deira Islands wrote:And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.

Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

Okay what about a Mark 19 Mod 3 then a little more accurate then a pure mortar.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:18 pm

The Chuck wrote:Well, I turned 21 today... Walked into my LGS and spoke with them and got their FFL information, I'll be buying a stripped lower over the weekend hopefully! Doing my part in fighting gun control. :)


got a new upper today in the mail.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:24 pm

The Chuck wrote:Well, I turned 21 today... Walked into my LGS and spoke with them and got their FFL information, I'll be buying a stripped lower over the weekend hopefully! Doing my part in fighting gun control. :)

Congratulations Chuck and Happy birthday :clap: :hug:
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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:26 pm

Deira Islands wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

Okay what about a Mark 19 Mod 3 then a little more accurate then a pure mortar.

I can see the manager pull out a M134 minigun mounted on a shopping cart. :p
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:26 pm

Deira Islands wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

Okay what about a Mark 19 Mod 3 then a little more accurate then a pure mortar.


Using a sledgehammer for a nail; too much force.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:29 pm

The Chuck wrote:Well, I turned 21 today... Walked into my LGS and spoke with them and got their FFL information, I'll be buying a stripped lower over the weekend hopefully! Doing my part in fighting gun control. :)

Huzzah!
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:31 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Deira Islands wrote:And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.

Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:33 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:35 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Deira Islands wrote:Okay what about a Mark 19 Mod 3 then a little more accurate then a pure mortar.


Using a sledgehammer for a nail; too much force.

A Mk 19 is never too much force. Now a 25mm cannon would be overkill.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:37 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Using a sledgehammer for a nail; too much force.

A Mk 19 is never too much force. Now a 25mm cannon would be overkill.

Eh 40mm belt-fed grenade launcher or 25mm Bushmaster cannon...

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:39 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:"Fuck you, and fuck the object you're hiding behind!"

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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:41 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:A Mk 19 is never too much force. Now a 25mm cannon would be overkill.

Eh 40mm belt-fed grenade launcher or 25mm Bushmaster cannon...

Now imagine the manager with an Abrams tank.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:12 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Eh 40mm belt-fed grenade launcher or 25mm Bushmaster cannon...

Now imagine the manager with an Abrams tank.


Too big, too expensive, best case is take the gun and make it a towed AT gun.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:40 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Now imagine the manager with an Abrams tank.


Too big, too expensive, best case is take the gun and make it a towed AT gun.

Well one can never go wrong with a Flak 88 or a simple RPG7 or you can call on Carl he's always reliable
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:33 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Deira Islands wrote:And if they get into a car and run away the manager can then pull out his 60mm mortar.

Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

An M45 will wreck the attackers, their getaway vehicle, and whatever happens to be behind them.
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American Pere Housh wrote:
Deira Islands wrote:Okay what about a Mark 19 Mod 3 then a little more accurate then a pure mortar.

I can see the manager pull out a M134 minigun mounted on a shopping cart. :p

Nah, a GAU-8 is where it's at.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:13 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, an M2 will make short work of most cars at most distances.

Especially if it is a quad.

An M45 will wreck the attackers, their getaway vehicle, and whatever happens to be behind them.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:53 am

Looks like the mag ban got sunk this morning. Finally some good news!
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
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-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:08 am

Telconi wrote:Looks like the mag ban got sunk this morning. Finally some good news!


Mag ban?
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Postby Loben III » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:19 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Telconi wrote:Looks like the mag ban got sunk this morning. Finally some good news!


Mag ban?


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