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Ban modern sporting rifles
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Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
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11%
Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
30
4%
Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
102
13%
Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:44 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:So Mr. "pay attention to me, I'm a father to a dead kid" fred guttenberg (the dipshit not the actor) is on his monthly period and ranting.
Guttenberg: Gun Stores Illegally Selling Firearms, Spreading Coronavirus

Guttenberg went on to say that gun stores are contributing to the pandemic and selling to people who are not legally allowed to buy or own firearms, though he did not offer evidence of either claim.

“You have crowds showing up around these gun stores not only spreading coronavirus, but they’re buying weapons, or they’re buying ammunition,” he said. “And many of them are prohibited purchasers of weapons, or they already have the weapon, and now they’re running out and buying the ammunition to use it....”


If anyone is sowing the seeds of panic it's gun grabbers and this right here is full of misinformation, downright lies, then again typical of looser shitbricks such as guttenberg, who seem to think he's an expert on anything firearm law related because his kids was killed.


you'd think he wouldnt use his dead kids as a soap box.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:54 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:So Mr. "pay attention to me, I'm a father to a dead kid" fred guttenberg (the dipshit not the actor) is on his monthly period and ranting.
Guttenberg: Gun Stores Illegally Selling Firearms, Spreading Coronavirus



If anyone is sowing the seeds of panic it's gun grabbers and this right here is full of misinformation, downright lies, then again typical of looser shitbricks such as guttenberg, who seem to think he's an expert on anything firearm law related because his kids was killed.


you'd think he wouldnt use his dead kids as a soap box.


Why would we think that?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:59 pm

Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

Image

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:01 pm

Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

Actually I have a 7.62x25 handgun.
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:02 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

Actually I have a 7.62x25 handgun.

That's really not the funny part.
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Actually I have a 7.62x25 handgun.

That's really not the funny part.

Oh, I know. And now I want a 223 millimeter handgun.
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:07 pm

Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

Hmm, I wonder if the BATFe(ARBF) knows that shitmart is selling some pretty large bore ammo?
357mm = 14.763" round
223MM = 8.779" round.
A real Mensa candidate works in that shitmart dept.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Actually I have a 7.62x25 handgun.

That's really not the funny part.

You never know when you're going to have to dust of the old anti-aircraft handgun.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:48 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's really not the funny part.

You never know when you're going to have to dust of the old anti-aircraft handgun.

well how else are we gonna destroy the virus?
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:02 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

Hmm, I wonder if the BATFe(ARBF) knows that shitmart is selling some pretty large bore ammo?
357mm = 14.763" round
223MM = 8.779" round.
A real Mensa candidate works in that shitmart dept.

357mm = 14" Naval cannon
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:07 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Hmm, I wonder if the BATFe(ARBF) knows that shitmart is selling some pretty large bore ammo?
357mm = 14.763" round
223MM = 8.779" round.
A real Mensa candidate works in that shitmart dept.

357mm = 14" Naval cannon

One is going to need some pretty sturdy suspenders to help hold up your pants when strapped with that hand cannon. :p

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:07 pm

Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

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Postby Diopolis » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:10 pm

Celritannia wrote:Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

They're not. US developed calibers are referred to in fractions of an inch. Millimetres is only for european calibers.
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:11 pm

Celritannia wrote:Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

Imperial and metric are both used in firearm calibers. For example a .45 caliber M1911 And then you have a Remington 7mm rifle, etc., etc.

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:13 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

They're not. US developed calibers are referred to in fractions of an inch. Millimetres is only for european calibers.


Grinning Dragon wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

Imperial and metric are both used in firearm calibers. For example a .45 caliber M1911 And then you have a Remington 7mm rifle, etc., etc.


Ahh, fair enough.
Thanks for clearing that up.

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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:21 pm

What??? A gun control group lying and fudging data to fit a narrative because facts are NEVER on their side. Say it isn't so Joe.
Junk Science: Everytown’s ‘Research’ Ignores Established Data to Generate Biased Results
Which is why data from gun control groups are NEVER a valid source nor factual.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:28 pm

Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

So where am I supposed to get ammo for my heavy cruisers and battlecruisers now?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:31 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Alright, question (after seeing the image).

How come Imperial Measurements are used nearly everywhere in the US, yet when it comes to firearms, metric is used?

They're not. US developed calibers are referred to in fractions of an inch. Millimetres is only for european calibers.


Not necessarily true, 7mm-08. 6.5 Creedmore, 10mm Auto, etc. Are all U.S. invented cartridges.
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-Labor Unions
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:17 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:So Mr. "pay attention to me, I'm a father to a dead kid" fred guttenberg (the dipshit not the actor) is on his monthly period and ranting.
Guttenberg: Gun Stores Illegally Selling Firearms, Spreading Coronavirus

Guttenberg went on to say that gun stores are contributing to the pandemic and selling to people who are not legally allowed to buy or own firearms, though he did not offer evidence of either claim.

“You have crowds showing up around these gun stores not only spreading coronavirus, but they’re buying weapons, or they’re buying ammunition,” he said. “And many of them are prohibited purchasers of weapons, or they already have the weapon, and now they’re running out and buying the ammunition to use it....”


If anyone is sowing the seeds of panic it's gun grabbers and this right here is full of misinformation, downright lies, then again typical of looser shitbricks such as guttenberg, who seem to think he's an expert on anything firearm law related because his kids was killed.


Shocked he hasn't gone to the graveyard to dig up her bones like the fucking misfits, just so he could show them off and say "GUNS ARE SCARY AS HELL"
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:19 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:What??? A gun control group lying and fudging data to fit a narrative because facts are NEVER on their side. Say it isn't so Joe.
Junk Science: Everytown’s ‘Research’ Ignores Established Data to Generate Biased Results
Which is why data from gun control groups are NEVER a valid source nor factual.


Anti gun people aren't always the smartest. It's why it's easy for tyrannical government figures to pull their strings like puppets.
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:34 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What??? A gun control group lying and fudging data to fit a narrative because facts are NEVER on their side. Say it isn't so Joe.
Junk Science: Everytown’s ‘Research’ Ignores Established Data to Generate Biased Results
Which is why data from gun control groups are NEVER a valid source nor factual.


Anti gun people aren't always the smartest. It's why it's easy for tyrannical government figures to pull their strings like puppets.

Come now, a lot of them are emotionally vulnerable people freaking out to begin with. It's more or less the recruiting practices of a cult.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:28 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What??? A gun control group lying and fudging data to fit a narrative because facts are NEVER on their side. Say it isn't so Joe.
Junk Science: Everytown’s ‘Research’ Ignores Established Data to Generate Biased Results
Which is why data from gun control groups are NEVER a valid source nor factual.


Anti gun people aren't always the smartest. It's why it's easy for tyrannical government figures to pull their strings like puppets.

They are the ignorant sheep. We must enlighten them.
The Two Jerseys wrote:
Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

So where am I supposed to get ammo for my heavy cruisers and battlecruisers now?

I guess we'll have to make it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:31 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Anti gun people aren't always the smartest. It's why it's easy for tyrannical government figures to pull their strings like puppets.

Come now, a lot of them are emotionally vulnerable people freaking out to begin with. It's more or less the recruiting practices of a cult.


So they're like Jonestown, but they don't even have Kool aid.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:58 pm

Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.

Who buys ammo from Wal-Mart anyway?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:00 pm

Galloism wrote:Hey all, be advised, Wal-Mart no longer sells handgun ammunition in the following sizes:

(Image)

Just in case you were using any of those sizes for your handgun.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>40mm handgun

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