Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Grinning Dragon]

Says the guy advocating the suppression of others.

I’m advocating for the safety of others, not suppression.
Taking away SOME types of lethal weapons does not = suppression

Eh, taking away or denying is suppression.

[Grinning Dragon]

Big is subjective.

Giggity...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nobody produces them ( a veritably false claim btw, given 3D printer files for them exist and more than a few pictures of such things in the wild exist) because of a very likely illegal move by the executive branch.

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

[Telconi]

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

I've really stopped questioning at this point and just arrived on an unshakable conclusion.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

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Jelle, please try your best to confine replies to multiple people to a singular post. It's not the end of the world if you make the occasional multi-post, but doing it excessively is spam.

If you're not sure how:

1) "Quote" a post like normal.
2) Once in "Post a Reply," scroll down the "Topic Review" below.
3) Click where in your post you'd like to add the next quote.
4) Click the "Quote" button to the other post you want to reply to in the "Topic Review." This will automatically copy that quote into your post.

Hope this helps.

Oh sorry,
Yeah I wasn't sure how to do that
Thanks!
Will definitely try it.

I’m advocating for the safety of others, not suppression.
Taking away SOME types of lethal weapons does not = suppression

Eh, taking away or denying is suppression.

Yeah but by that standard not letting people stockpile plutonium cores in their basement is also suppression.
And I hope we can agree that’s not ok.

Nobody produces them ( a veritably false claim btw, given 3D printer files for them exist and more than a few pictures of such things in the wild exist) because of a very likely illegal move by the executive branch.

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

I auctally forgot about 3D printers.
But that’s all the more reason to ban bumpstocks.
They are an active threat.
Instead of just a loose end.

I mean in general like the, well, big guns.
Like full automatics and large calibers and all that.
The big stuff.
The ting you strap on your back, not put in your pocket.

What do you consider large caliber? Big is subjective.

Look, my up knowledge of guns is somewhat limited, but really, the difference between killing 2 in a couple seconds, and 200.

I feel like this should have been a thing already, even with some sort of firearm type ordering box along with a menu and perhaps a happy meal type thing for the kiddos.
I also hope this makes the karens lose their damn minds and I await their outrage and arm waving while turning on the crocodile tears and bleat their mating call, "but the chiiiiiiiiilllllllddddddddddddrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnn!"

What are Karen’s ?

[Albrenia]

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

I don't know how to work a 3d printer, so I don't know how complex or simple it may be.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

I know how easy it is to make stuff with 3D printers ...

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

I don't know how to work a 3d printer, so I don't know how complex or simple it may be.

You make a 3D design, and it prints it for you.
Some software is very easy.
And there are free models around the internet.

So basically, if you have a 3D printer and some plastic, you can upload a file from the internet, and make random stuff.

[Telconi]

The fact that some people unironically believe this makes me question a lot of things.

I don't know how to work a 3d printer, so I don't know how complex or simple it may be.

Basically if you can launch whatever internet browser you used, and arrive at Nationstates and make a post, you can use a 3D printer.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Wait, did someone actually name their group "Guns Down America"?

Like... wut.

That can be interpreted in many ways ...

[Albrenia]

I don't know how to work a 3d printer, so I don't know how complex or simple it may be.

Basically if you can launch whatever internet browser you used, and arrive at Nationstates and make a post, you can use a 3D printer.

Cool. Hopefully it will be able to make Tea, Earl Grey, Hot soon.

[Telconi]

Wait, did someone actually name their group "Guns Down America"?

Like... wut.

That can be interpreted in many ways ...

I'm pretty sure that's the point.

[Telconi]

Basically if you can launch whatever internet browser you used, and arrive at Nationstates and make a post, you can use a 3D printer.

Cool. Hopefully it will be able to make Tea, Earl Grey, Hot soon.

>Not requesting coffee from the replicator like the bestest starship captain.

We can't be friends now.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

I would like to remind people.

That I believe in gun rights, but I am coming from the angle that we have a lot of people dying from guns in our country, and something needs to be done about it.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Cool. Hopefully it will be able to make Tea, Earl Grey, Hot soon.

>Not requesting coffee from the replicator like the bestest starship captain.

We can't be friends now.

Live long and prosper

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

You forget, these are the people who think that a plastic stock gives the Mini-14 +50 lethality...

Step right up! What's the more dangerous rifle in this image?

The top one looks more dangerous... but I’m assuming the bottom one is ?

I mean are they both AKs ?

I think the one on the top is M4A1
And the bottom is classic AK, missing a scope ..


Edit, ops I did it again with the close to spam...
I’ll keep better track of that ..

[Telconi]

I would like to remind people.

That I believe in gun rights, but I am coming from the angle that we have a lot of people dying from guns in our country, and something needs to be done about it.

If you're willing to destroy gun rights as part of your solution, you don't truly believe in them.

[Grinning Dragon]

Jelle, please try your best to confine replies to multiple people to a singular post. It's not the end of the world if you make the occasional multi-post, but doing it excessively is spam.

If you're not sure how:

1) "Quote" a post like normal.
2) Once in "Post a Reply," scroll down the "Topic Review" below.
3) Click where in your post you'd like to add the next quote.
4) Click the "Quote" button to the other post you want to reply to in the "Topic Review." This will automatically copy that quote into your post.

Hope this helps.

Oh sorry,
Yeah I wasn't sure how to do that
Thanks!
Will definitely try it.

Eh, taking away or denying is suppression.

Yeah but by that standard not letting people stockpile plutonium cores in their basement is also suppression.
And I hope we can agree that’s not ok.

Oh come on WRA, you and I both know that pushing the "print" key is an easily regulated, highly specialized skill.

I auctally forgot about 3D printers.
But that’s all the more reason to ban bumpstocks.
They are an active threat.
Instead of just a loose end.

What do you consider large caliber? Big is subjective.

Look, my up knowledge of guns is somewhat limited, but really, the difference between killing 2 in a couple seconds, and 200.

What are Karen’s ?

Yes, denying people to store plutonium is suppression, I don't care either way about people storing plutonium.

What if there are 5 people that need killin' like say in a home invasion? Firearms are NOT a one size fits all.

Definition of a Karen:

Karen is a mocking slang term for an entitled, obnoxious, middle-aged white woman. Especially as featured in memes, Karen is generally stereotyped as having a blonde bob haircut, asking to speak to retail and restaurant managers to voice complaints or make demands, and being a nagging, often divorced mother from Generation X.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

I would like to remind people.

That I believe in gun rights, but I am coming from the angle that we have a lot of people dying from guns in our country, and something needs to be done about it.

If you're willing to destroy gun rights as part of your solution, you don't truly believe in them.

I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous, don’t tell me what I believe in.
All of your positions sound extreme and you have not shown any room to compromise.

We live in reality.
We HAVE to compromise.

You yourself said that you agree that too many die from guns.
You just don’t care. (As I have been told numerous times).

For everyone else that does care about minimizing deaths.
We need to do something.

I believe in people’s rights to defend themselves,
But I also believe in people’s right to be safe in our country.
Everything in moderation ...

“You can drown in even the best wine” - some person I forgot

[Grinning Dragon]

Step right up! What's the more dangerous rifle in this image?

The top one looks more dangerous... but I’m assuming the bottom one is ?

I mean are they both AKs ?

I think the one on the top is M4A1
And the bottom is classic AK, missing a scope ..


Edit, ops I did it again with the close to spam...
I’ll keep better track of that ..

You realize they are both the same exact firearm, yes? The only difference is cosmetic.
Which lets me know you are judging a firearm on how it looks and not on caliber or function.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

The top one looks more dangerous... but I’m assuming the bottom one is ?

I mean are they both AKs ?

I think the one on the top is M4A1
And the bottom is classic AK, missing a scope ..


Edit, ops I did it again with the close to spam...
I’ll keep better track of that ..

You realize they are both the same exact firearm, yes? The only difference is cosmetic.
Which lets me know you are judging a firearm on how it looks and not on caliber or function.

The barrel and the mag looked the same,
But wow.

Lol jokes on you, one has a scope.
If they are the same the scope is superior.
The again AKs have bad recoil ...

Hmm......

[Telconi]

If you're willing to destroy gun rights as part of your solution, you don't truly believe in them.

I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous, don’t tell me what I believe in.
All of your positions sound extreme and you have not shown any room to compromise.

We live in reality.
We HAVE to compromise.

You yourself said that you agree that too many die from guns.
You just don’t care. (As I have been told numerous times).

For everyone else that does care about minimizing deaths.
We need to do something.

If you lie this profusely, people are going to call you out on the lie.
Says the extremist.

I thought this was all a fever dream, tell me more about this "reality"
Nonsense, people refuse to compromise with others all the time.

I'm aware.
Hold up, why do you get to tell me what I believe in?

Then do something that doesn't infringe on the rights of millions.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous, don’t tell me what I believe in.
All of your positions sound extreme and you have not shown any room to compromise.

We live in reality.
We HAVE to compromise.

You yourself said that you agree that too many die from guns.
You just don’t care. (As I have been told numerous times).

For everyone else that does care about minimizing deaths.
We need to do something.

If you lie this profusely, people are going to call you out on the lie.
Says the extremist.

I thought this was all a fever dream, tell me more about this "reality"
Nonsense, people refuse to compromise with others all the time.

I'm aware.
Hold up, why do you get to tell me what I believe in?

Then do something that doesn't infringe on the rights of millions.

Extreme is relative, compared to the rest of scoceity, you are the extremist.
A right with no limits.

I’m restating what you told me,
You were simply saying a lie about my opinions.

And yeah, it’s a right, but not to infinity ..
Don’t you see ?

[Grinning Dragon]

If you're willing to destroy gun rights as part of your solution, you don't truly believe in them.

I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous, don’t tell me what I believe in.
All of your positions sound extreme and you have not shown any room to compromise.

We live in reality.
We HAVE to compromise.

You yourself said that you agree that too many die from guns.
You just don’t care. (As I have been told numerous times).

For everyone else that does care about minimizing deaths.
We need to do something.

I believe in people’s rights to defend themselves,
But I also believe in people’s right to be safe in our country.
Everything in moderation ...

“You can drown in even the best wine” - some person I forgot

Tel is correct. You just basically said, I believe in rights, but....
You're right we do need to do something, removing the plethora of infringements that hinder access to arms. Poor people and minorities are more so harmed by these infringements and keeps them from exercising their negative right.
Access to arms has a positive benefit more so than a negative.

[Telconi]

If you lie this profusely, people are going to call you out on the lie.
Says the extremist.

I thought this was all a fever dream, tell me more about this "reality"
Nonsense, people refuse to compromise with others all the time.

I'm aware.
Hold up, why do you get to tell me what I believe in?

Then do something that doesn't infringe on the rights of millions.

Extreme is relative, compared to the rest of scoceity, you are the extremist.
A right with no limits.

I’m restating what you told me,
You were simply saying a lie about my opinions.

And yeah, it’s a right, but not to infinity ..
Don’t you see ?

I'm just restating what you've told me too.

I don't recall saying the right to posses arms was infinite.