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Your thoughts on pistol braces? (See top of OP for information)

Ban modern sporting rifles
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15%
Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
86
11%
Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
30
4%
Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
102
13%
Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
454
58%
 
Total votes : 786

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:18 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Ahh, nothing like doxing citizens all in the name of, well I don't know what it would fall under, considering the news org is violating a person's privacy all in the name of the state.
In all honesty it isn't anybodies business who is carrying concealed.
CA sheriff forced to reveal concealed carriers’ identities to newspaper

That's disgusting.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:50 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Ahh, nothing like doxing citizens all in the name of, well I don't know what it would fall under, considering the news org is violating a person's privacy all in the name of the state.
In all honesty it isn't anybodies business who is carrying concealed.
CA sheriff forced to reveal concealed carriers’ identities to newspaper

That's disgusting.

well then according to them it should be perfectly legal to have peoples ID and private info released in other instances if they want info on gun holders then we should be able to get info on others for free speech violations as well as religious freedoms violations.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:36 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Ahh, nothing like doxing citizens all in the name of, well I don't know what it would fall under, considering the news org is violating a person's privacy all in the name of the state.
In all honesty it isn't anybodies business who is carrying concealed.
CA sheriff forced to reveal concealed carriers’ identities to newspaper

How is this even legal? :eyebrow:
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:35 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Ahh, nothing like doxing citizens all in the name of, well I don't know what it would fall under, considering the news org is violating a person's privacy all in the name of the state.
In all honesty it isn't anybodies business who is carrying concealed.
CA sheriff forced to reveal concealed carriers’ identities to newspaper

How is this even legal? :eyebrow:

IMO, it isn't, if I were the sheriff, I would still refuse to release the information.

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Postby Satuga » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:40 am


That made me think that Florida residents werent gonna be allowed to vote on it, not that a small group trying to introduce a gun ban was denied lol.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:54 am

Satuga wrote:

That made me think that Florida residents weren't gonna be allowed to vote on it, not that a small group trying to introduce a gun ban was denied lol.

Yeah, the news headline makes it seem that way or makes it out to be a damn shame or something.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:15 am

Reason # 30489533434827293 for owning a modern rifle.
https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2020/02/this-is-what-we-prepare-for.html
"What do you need an AR-15 for?" people ask, but then watch what happens when a troop of face-eating herpes monkeys comes hooting out of the trees, headed right for them. I'll bet they'll wish they had an AR-15 then!

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Just like the feral hogs, these too need to be eliminated.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:46 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Reason # 30489533434827293 for owning a modern rifle.
https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2020/02/this-is-what-we-prepare-for.html
"What do you need an AR-15 for?" people ask, but then watch what happens when a troop of face-eating herpes monkeys comes hooting out of the trees, headed right for them. I'll bet they'll wish they had an AR-15 then!

Roving band of herpes-ridden monkeys now roaming northeast Florida
Just like the feral hogs, these too need to be eliminated.

Agreed.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:52 pm

Virginia Senator Bell’s Attack on Shooting Ranges Dead for Session
The Senate Judiciary Committee began this morning (Feb 3rd, 2020) by passing by several bills for the year:

S.B. 13 Possessing or transporting a weapon within Capitol Square; penalty.
S.B. 15 Carrying weapon into a building owned or leased by the Commonwealth; penalty.
S.B. 353 Outdoor shooting ranges; prohibited adjacent to residential areas; exceptions; civil penalty.
S.B. 490 Purchase, possession, or transportation of firearms following a conviction for assault and battery of a family or household member; permit to restore rights; penalties.

While technically not dead, they will not be brought up again this year. At some point before the beginning of the 2021 Session, the committee will decide whether to move them forward or to not report the bills. Also good news for gun owners, SB 581 was defeated in committee this morning on a vote of 7Y – 8N. This bill would have made it a felony for any person who recklessly leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any person under the age of 18. While the patron offered a substitute that would have reduced the penalty to a misdemeanor, several members of the committee, including some Democrats were not comfortable with the bill.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:53 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Virginia Senator Bell’s Attack on Shooting Ranges Dead for Session
The Senate Judiciary Committee began this morning (Feb 3rd, 2020) by passing by several bills for the year:

S.B. 13 Possessing or transporting a weapon within Capitol Square; penalty.
S.B. 15 Carrying weapon into a building owned or leased by the Commonwealth; penalty.
S.B. 353 Outdoor shooting ranges; prohibited adjacent to residential areas; exceptions; civil penalty.
S.B. 490 Purchase, possession, or transportation of firearms following a conviction for assault and battery of a family or household member; permit to restore rights; penalties.

While technically not dead, they will not be brought up again this year. At some point before the beginning of the 2021 Session, the committee will decide whether to move them forward or to not report the bills. Also good news for gun owners, SB 581 was defeated in committee this morning on a vote of 7Y – 8N. This bill would have made it a felony for any person who recklessly leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any person under the age of 18. While the patron offered a substitute that would have reduced the penalty to a misdemeanor, several members of the committee, including some Democrats were not comfortable with the bill.

I hope it dies permanently, and never gets brought up again.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:59 pm

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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:02 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Bromagia wrote:You people and your petty F bombs. Everyone knows the real WMD, in America at least, is the C bomb. Nothing causes cross generational outrage like a loud Cunt.


I have a friend that used to be married to one.


Now you're just giving the grabbers propaganda. It's true, Gun Manufacturers is responsible for murder.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:09 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:

I hope it dies permanently, and never gets brought up again.


The ban on shooting ranges baffles me, and makes zero sense.
Then again, according to gun grabber logic:
gungrabber pol: People need to be trained and familiar with firearms before they can own them
gungrabber pol2: OMG, people are learning and training with firearms at ranges, we can't have people training we need to ban ranges.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:58 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I hope it dies permanently, and never gets brought up again.


The ban on shooting ranges baffles me, and makes zero sense.
Then again, according to gun grabber logic:
gungrabber pol: People need to be trained and familiar with firearms before they can own them
gungrabber pol2: OMG, people are learning and training with firearms at ranges, we can't have people training we need to ban ranges.


It makes more sense once you realize that the proposed ban was nothing more then a political move by the Democrats to specifically target their perceived rival the NRA to possibly try and shut them down. Abuse of powers and all that usual noise that the Dems love to overlook when it involves themselves...

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:10 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
The ban on shooting ranges baffles me, and makes zero sense.
Then again, according to gun grabber logic:
gungrabber pol: People need to be trained and familiar with firearms before they can own them
gungrabber pol2: OMG, people are learning and training with firearms at ranges, we can't have people training we need to ban ranges.


It makes more sense once you realize that the proposed ban was nothing more then a political move by the Democrats to specifically target their perceived rival the NRA to possibly try and shut them down. Abuse of powers and all that usual noise that the Dems love to overlook when it involves themselves...

Next up, is a ban on armorer tools or one must have a firearm manufacturers license to own.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:25 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
It makes more sense once you realize that the proposed ban was nothing more then a political move by the Democrats to specifically target their perceived rival the NRA to possibly try and shut them down. Abuse of powers and all that usual noise that the Dems love to overlook when it involves themselves...

Next up, is a ban on armorer tools or one must have a firearm manufacturers license to own.

Supposedly Von Dutch could make functioning firearms without even using precision measuring tools.

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Postby Satuga » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:49 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I hope it dies permanently, and never gets brought up again.


The ban on shooting ranges baffles me, and makes zero sense.
Then again, according to gun grabber logic:
gungrabber pol: People need to be trained and familiar with firearms before they can own them
gungrabber pol2: OMG, people are learning and training with firearms at ranges, we can't have people training we need to ban ranges.

I'd say more like "We need to have people get trained so they can use firearms safely!"---"OMG, people are training with firearms that makes them more deadly!!!!"
It's idiotic circle logic in order to try and have a reason to get rid of guns outright.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:55 am

Virginia Democrats are idiots when it comes to gun laws
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:45 am

hooboy, the streets are safer in NSW, Australia now that they've arrested this terrorist.
NSW Man charged with possessing “military-style” gel blasters toy, refused bail.
These “military style” “prohibited firearms” have been taken off our streets by the NSW Police, who in a statement said “During the search, police located and seized 10 military-style gel blasters, three pistol-type gel blasters, scopes and ammunition.”
:rofl:
Jackasses!
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:57 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:hooboy, the streets are safer in NSW, Australia now that they've arrested this terrorist.
NSW Man charged with possessing “military-style” gel blasters toy, refused bail.
These “military style” “prohibited firearms” have been taken off our streets by the NSW Police, who in a statement said “During the search, police located and seized 10 military-style gel blasters, three pistol-type gel blasters, scopes and ammunition.”
:rofl:
Jackasses!

Those are toys, right? Similar to Nerf, Iiirc.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:00 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:hooboy, the streets are safer in NSW, Australia now that they've arrested this terrorist.
NSW Man charged with possessing “military-style” gel blasters toy, refused bail.
:rofl:
Jackasses!

Those are toys, right? Similar to Nerf, Iiirc.

Yep. A harmless toy.
It also points to the fact that they are after cosmetic looks over function.
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:24 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Reason # 30489533434827293 for owning a modern rifle.
https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2020/02/this-is-what-we-prepare-for.html
"What do you need an AR-15 for?" people ask, but then watch what happens when a troop of face-eating herpes monkeys comes hooting out of the trees, headed right for them. I'll bet they'll wish they had an AR-15 then!

Roving band of herpes-ridden monkeys now roaming northeast Florida
Just like the feral hogs, these too need to be eliminated.

This being Florida, you're probably just going to end up arming the feral, herpes-ridden primates with AR-15s.

And It's hard to find a good monkey with a gun.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:00 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Reason # 30489533434827293 for owning a modern rifle.
https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2020/02/this-is-what-we-prepare-for.html

Roving band of herpes-ridden monkeys now roaming northeast Florida
Just like the feral hogs, these too need to be eliminated.

This being Florida, you're probably just going to end up arming the feral, herpes-ridden primates with AR-15s.

Then I guess it would be prudent to just gun them all down before it happens.

And It's hard to find a good monkey with a gun.

Seems related.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:00 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Those are toys, right? Similar to Nerf, Iiirc.

Yep. A harmless toy.
It also points to the fact that they are after cosmetic looks over function.

Which is really quite stupid. AR-15 is semi-auto, as is the M1 Garand. I guess they think a polymer stock makes a gun deadlier?
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