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Your thoughts on pistol braces? (See top of OP for information)

Ban modern sporting rifles
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Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
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Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
30
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Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
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Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
454
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:26 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bromagia wrote:Counter point: Opiates are highly dangerous, especially to the young. There are zero storage requirements on them. Why? Knives are the same, as are vehicles and gasoline. These are all dangerous things in the wrong hands. Logically, they should all have storage mandates if firearms do. But they don't because that would be dumb.

I can see California doing that exact thing, btw.

Last I checked certain medications do have storage requirements, at least in quantity, and must be sold in childproof containers. I would definitely be open to mandating storage requirements that are stricter than what they have now. Gasoline and knives aren't quite as dangerous- or frequently stolen- as firearms.
Again, I'm actually in favor of storage requirements on more than just firearms. For example certain varieties of live animals, certain chemicals(pharmaceutical grade cocaine, for example), probably certain kinds of industrial machinery.

Sadly, the childproof and tamper evident seals are not to keep kids out... it's to see if some lunatic has been dropping pills of arsenic in with your cough-drops on the store-shelves.

Similarly, MSDS sheets exist to make sure workers don't accidentally make chlorine gas or a phosegene when mixing cleaning compounds (happens often, sadly; bleach and solvents is bad mojo; there's also a PSA that states rather plainly: Do not mix bleach and ammonia.)

In fact, don't mix bleach with other cleaners.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:30 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:It's absolutely lazy blaming a victim of theft where their firearms were stolen out of their home and used in crime.
It's the same thing as saying a woman got raped because of how she was dressed. It's bullshit.

Agreed but the precedent does exist for holding that person liable in a civil suit.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:31 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bromagia wrote:Counter point: Opiates are highly dangerous, especially to the young. There are zero storage requirements on them. Why? Knives are the same, as are vehicles and gasoline. These are all dangerous things in the wrong hands. Logically, they should all have storage mandates if firearms do. But they don't because that would be dumb.

I can see California doing that exact thing, btw.

Last I checked certain medications do have storage requirements, at least in quantity, and must be sold in childproof containers. I would definitely be open to mandating storage requirements that are stricter than what they have now. Gasoline and knives aren't quite as dangerous- or frequently stolen- as firearms.
Again, I'm actually in favor of storage requirements on more than just firearms. For example certain varieties of live animals, certain chemicals(pharmaceutical grade cocaine, for example), probably certain kinds of industrial machinery.

Storage requirements in the home? For meds? That's news to me. Out of all the prescriptions I and my wife have recieved that has never been explained to me.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:33 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Last I checked certain medications do have storage requirements, at least in quantity, and must be sold in childproof containers. I would definitely be open to mandating storage requirements that are stricter than what they have now. Gasoline and knives aren't quite as dangerous- or frequently stolen- as firearms.
Again, I'm actually in favor of storage requirements on more than just firearms. For example certain varieties of live animals, certain chemicals(pharmaceutical grade cocaine, for example), probably certain kinds of industrial machinery.

Sadly, the childproof and tamper evident seals are not to keep kids out... it's to see if some lunatic has been dropping pills of arsenic in with your cough-drops on the store-shelves.

Didn't know that, but it makes sense. Regardless I'm not opposed to storage regs on eg particular pharmaceuticals as well as guns.
Similarly, MSDS sheets exist to make sure workers don't accidentally make chlorine gas or a phosegene when mixing cleaning compounds (happens often, sadly; bleach and acetone or mineral spirits is bad mojo; there's also a PSA that states rather plainly: Do not mix bleach and ammonia.)

I know about that part, I work with some of those chemicals.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:33 pm

Bromagia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Last I checked certain medications do have storage requirements, at least in quantity, and must be sold in childproof containers. I would definitely be open to mandating storage requirements that are stricter than what they have now. Gasoline and knives aren't quite as dangerous- or frequently stolen- as firearms.
Again, I'm actually in favor of storage requirements on more than just firearms. For example certain varieties of live animals, certain chemicals(pharmaceutical grade cocaine, for example), probably certain kinds of industrial machinery.

Storage requirements in the home? For meds? That's news to me. Out of all the prescriptions I and my wife have recieved that has never been explained to me.

Pharmacies and hospitals do have storage requirements for meds, though.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:42 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bromagia wrote:Storage requirements in the home? For meds? That's news to me. Out of all the prescriptions I and my wife have recieved that has never been explained to me.

Pharmacies and hospitals do have storage requirements for meds, though.

But we're talking about individuals.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:44 pm

Bromagia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Pharmacies and hospitals do have storage requirements for meds, though.

But we're talking about individuals.

Fair enough. I'm open to storage requirements for some prescription meds, and let's leave it at that.
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Postby Yawkland » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:51 pm

Virginia's governor is trash and should be impeached.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:52 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bromagia wrote:But we're talking about individuals.

Fair enough. I'm open to storage requirements for some prescription meds, and let's leave it at that.

I don't think it's reasonable to toss granny in jail because her burnout grandson stole her opiates she was prescribed after her hip surgery and she couldn't afford a strong drug cabinet on a fixed income. Prescription storage requirements would certainly do that.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:07 pm

Yawkland wrote:Virginia's governor is trash and should be impeached.

I'm not American but I'm pretty sure they've violated the 2nd Amendment, so yeah I agree.
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Postby Yawkland » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:09 pm

Nuroblav wrote:
Yawkland wrote:Virginia's governor is trash and should be impeached.

I'm not American but I'm pretty sure they've violated the 2nd Amendment, so yeah I agree.


Even if you ignore this gun control issue, Virginia's governor is still a person of highly questionable ethics.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:29 pm

Yawkland wrote:Even if you ignore this gun control issue, Virginia's governor is still a person of highly questionable ethics.

I've had a look at his political positions and aside from the gun control I don't see anything too bad. Any examples?
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:27 pm

Nuroblav wrote:
Yawkland wrote:Even if you ignore this gun control issue, Virginia's governor is still a person of highly questionable ethics.

I've had a look at his political positions and aside from the gun control I don't see anything too bad. Any examples?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... hoto#img-1

There you go.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:45 pm

There are four things I don't want restrictions on:

•Guns
•Weed
•My right to drink vodka without flavoring
•Being able to say fuck after every other word
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:11 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:There are four things I don't want restrictions on:

•Guns
•Weed
•My right to drink vodka without flavoring
•Being able to say fuck after every other word

The last one is a little too fucking dangerous.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:23 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:There are four things I don't want restrictions on:

•Guns
•Weed
•My right to drink vodka without flavoring
•Being able to say fuck after every other word

The last one is a little too fucking dangerous.


Under UN code 666, section 69, the F bomb is classified as a WMD. It doesn't have much of an effect on young people but can be highly lethal for baby boomers and Even more so members of the silent generation.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The last one is a little too fucking dangerous.


Under UN code 666, section 69, the F bomb is classified as a WMD. It doesn't have much of an effect on young people but can be highly lethal for baby boomers and Even more so members of the silent generation.


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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:13 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The last one is a little too fucking dangerous.


Under UN code 666, section 69, the F bomb is classified as a WMD. It doesn't have much of an effect on young people but can be highly lethal for baby boomers and Even more so members of the silent generation.

You people and your petty F bombs. Everyone knows the real WMD, in America at least, is the C bomb. Nothing causes cross generational outrage like a loud Cunt.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:20 pm

Bromagia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Under UN code 666, section 69, the F bomb is classified as a WMD. It doesn't have much of an effect on young people but can be highly lethal for baby boomers and Even more so members of the silent generation.

You people and your petty F bombs. Everyone knows the real WMD, in America at least, is the C bomb. Nothing causes cross generational outrage like a loud Cunt.

Glass 'em all with an MFC bomb.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:23 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Bromagia wrote:You people and your petty F bombs. Everyone knows the real WMD, in America at least, is the C bomb. Nothing causes cross generational outrage like a loud Cunt.

Glass 'em all with an MFC bomb.

That works!

Just don't use the dreaded N bomb. It's reserved for true villains.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:45 pm

Bromagia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Glass 'em all with an MFC bomb.

That works!

Just don't use the dreaded N bomb. It's reserved for true villains.


C bombs are the bombs of heroes
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:13 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Bromagia wrote:That works!

Just don't use the dreaded N bomb. It's reserved for true villains.


C bombs are the bombs of heroes

And suicidal husbands.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:51 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Bromagia wrote:Who funded this particular meta-analysis?

It isn't a secret that bloomberg floats millions of dollars towards academia and govt studies to push an anti gun narrative through manipulative reports.
soros does as well along with the joyce/carnegie foundations.


This one was Bloomberg though. It has his name literally on it.
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:12 pm

Will shit hit the fan tomorrow lads, place ya bets.
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Postby Bromagia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:29 pm

Arengin Union wrote:Will shit hit the fan tomorrow lads, place ya bets.

I think no.
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