2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

[Ifreann]

But sure, it's Warren that Wall Street is really afraid of.

All the Democrats running for President are leftist in American terms, the main one's Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth warren, that is why we need a capitalist President like President Trump and I am a Proud Conservative Capitalist Republican. I cant never vote for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden.

Biden, Sanders, and Warren are all capitalists.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

All the Democrats running for President are leftist in American terms, the main one's Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth warren, that is why we need a capitalist President like President Trump and I am a Proud Conservative Capitalist Republican. I cant never vote for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden.

Biden, Sanders, and Warren are all capitalists.

True but of a leftist sense in American terms and being anti Cuban government regime is my ultimate litmus test for obvious reasons, Bernie Sanders has communist socialists feelings, no I did not say he is a communist, but he does have pro Cuba communist socialist feelings.

[Gormwood]

All the Democrats running for President are leftist in American terms, the main one's Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth warren, that is why we need a capitalist President like President Trump and I am a Proud Conservative Capitalist Republican. I cant never vote for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden.

Biden, Sanders, and Warren are all capitalists.

Forget it Jake, it's Jynatown.

You can tell much about blind partisanship when a serial bankrupter with a known record of cheating employees and small business contractors out of payment is praised as a successful capitalist.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Biden, Sanders, and Warren are all capitalists.

Forget it Jake, it's Jynatown.

You can tell much about blind partisanship when a serial bankrupter with a known record of cheating employees and small business contractors out of payment is praised as a successful capitalist.

good post Gormwood lol.

[The of Korea]

Sanders Unveils Plan to Hike Taxes on Corporations That Pay CEOs 'Hundreds of Times What Their Workers Make'

Sanders's plan would impose a tax increase of 0.5 percent on corporations that pay their CEOs between 50 and 100 times more than their median employees. The penalty would increase progressively for companies with larger CEO-worker pay gaps.

The senator's website outlines the tax penalties under the "Income Inequality Tax Plan," which would apply to private and public corporations with annual revenues of more than $100 million.

Companies that pay CEOs between 50 and 100 times more than their median employees: +0.5 percent
Between 100 and 200 times: +1 percent
Between 200 and 300 times: +2 percent
Between 300 and 400 times: +3 percent
Between 400 and 500 times: +4 percent
More than 500 times: +5 percent

I like that Sanders has put this out

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Sanders Unveils Plan to Hike Taxes on Corporations That Pay CEOs 'Hundreds of Times What Their Workers Make'

I like that Sanders has put this out

Their ain't much difference between Bernie and Warren.

[Gormwood]

Forget it Jake, it's Jynatown.

You can tell much about blind partisanship when a serial bankrupter with a known record of cheating employees and small business contractors out of payment is praised as a successful capitalist.

good post Gormwood lol.

So you find nothing wrong at all with supporting a serial bankrupter who cheats employees and small businesses.

[Ghosteria]

I hope either Buttgieg or Yang wins.

[South Odreria 2]

Sanders raises 25 million in Q3 (+7), Buttigieg raises 19 (-5). No one else announced yet.

[Galloism]

Sanders raises 25 million in Q3 (+7), Buttigieg raises 19 (-5). No one else announced yet.

The fact that this is a metric hurts, I just want to say it yet again.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

I hope either Buttgieg or Yang wins.

To be honest with you, I think neither one of them has a chance in Heck to be the Democratic Party nominee for President. While all Democratic candidates are leftist in American terms.
Yang sounds kind of like an economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy views. Economically he could be a Republican Governor, House Rep or Senator.

While Buttigieg might be a moderate leftist the hardline Leftist Democratic base wants a hardline leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

Joe Biden is not as moderate as he seems to be or tries to act.

[Cannot think of a name]

Sanders raises 25 million in Q3 (+7), Buttigieg raises 19 (-5). No one else announced yet.

The fact that this is a metric hurts, I just want to say it yet again.

With the focus this cycle on individual donors and Sanders specifically only accepting individual donations (I believe part of his announcement included that he had reached a million individual donors) it's not that incredulous a sounding of the amount of support that the candidate has among voters who are willing to put up $20 or so on average (pulled that number out of the air as it's in the ballpark of these announcements, math nerds), like a poll that people put their money down on. In the past it's been a metric of how much packaging their fundraising arm could gather from traditional big money donors and the money is less a metric of their support but the power of their campaign to buy airspace etc.

While I would prefer a publicly funded campaign where everyone has the same amount of money to spend and not as much was dedicated to fundraising, it's the world we live in. Plus, with the 20+ candidates specifically in the primaries it highlights the issue of qualifying. What threshold would you make to qualify in a primary, seeing as it's a organization's method for choosing its candidate and not the run for office? How would you do it in a way that wouldn't shut out candidates like, say, Yang or Sanders or Buttigieg?

[Thermodolia]

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

[USS Monitor]

Yang sounds kind of like an economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy views. Economically he could be a Republican Governor, House Rep or Senator.

No. UBI is not economically conservative and would not fit in the GOP.

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

I'm certainly not bothered by it.

[Cannot think of a name]

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

"What would really 'suck' is if we don't fix a corrupt system that lets giant companies like Facebook engage in illegal anticompetitive practices, stomp on consumer privacy rights, and repeatedly fumble their responsibility to protect our democracy," Warren tweeted on Tuesday in response to Zuckerberg's comments.

I mean, she ain't wrong.

[Chan Island]

I hope either Buttgieg or Yang wins.

That's an interesting selection, typically considered very different types of candidates. Why those 2?

[USS Monitor]

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

"What would really 'suck' is if we don't fix a corrupt system that lets giant companies like Facebook engage in illegal anticompetitive practices, stomp on consumer privacy rights, and repeatedly fumble their responsibility to protect our democracy," Warren tweeted on Tuesday in response to Zuckerberg's comments.

I mean, she ain't wrong.

LOL

Tell us how you really feel, Liz.

I hope either Buttgieg or Yang wins.

That's an interesting selection, typically considered very different types of candidates. Why those 2?

He probably just likes political outsiders.

[Grahnol]

I hope either Buttgieg or Yang wins.

To be honest with you, I think neither one of them has a chance in Heck to be the Democratic Party nominee for President. While all Democratic candidates are leftist in American terms.
Yang sounds kind of like an economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy views. Economically he could be a Republican Governor, House Rep or Senator.

While Buttigieg might be a moderate leftist the hardline Leftist Democratic base wants a hardline leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

Joe Biden is not as moderate as he seems to be or tries to act.

What you said about Biden is pretty much him tbh. He tries to act like a 'moderate' when he's well into the Democrat part of politics. I wouldn't call him hardline but he is closer to such than a moderate. He is far from being the Republican of the Democrats too, just felt like brushing that falsehood aside. And yeah, Yang is pretty much more economically Libertarian Conservative than his party; he basically functions as such economically. The only big caveats in that I can think off is that he wants a UBI which is fairly unheard of in American libertarian and conservative economics and the fact he wants to tax automation to fund said UBI.

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

-_-
As much as I hate Facebook and their constant breaching of privacy for profits and becoming increasingly monopolistic, the fact that the plan that will result in the limiting of Facebook's power will also force companies to be broken apart without negotiations and considering what damage will be had upon the companies that are forced to spin-off subsidiary businesses which will in turn damage the economy. As much as I think there should be some kind of process to give small businesses a fair chance and that the power of big corporations should be given limits to prevent disproportionate control, I think Warren's approach of brutishly ripping apart companies is unethical, immoral, not a very good one and I don't think it will end well.

[Chan Island]

That's an interesting selection, typically considered very different types of candidates. Why those 2?

He probably just likes political outsiders.

Probably, but would still be something of interest to see their reasoning.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Yang sounds kind of like an economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy views. Economically he could be a Republican Governor, House Rep or Senator.

No. UBI is not economically conservative and would not fit in the GOP.

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

I'm certainly not bothered by it.

Point granted, but I have read his economic, social and political views on his website and overall it sounds Economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy and social views.

[Grahnol]

No. UBI is not economically conservative and would not fit in the GOP.



I'm certainly not bothered by it.

Point granted, but I have read his economic, social and political views on his website and overall it sounds Economic Libertarian Conservative with leftist foreign policy and social views.

I have to agree. While UBI is a big hole in classifying him as such, he overall supports markets and is fairly sympathetic to companies. He doesn't believe in restricting Wall Street and is willing to keep big corporations the way they are mostly and keep them free. Although his support of human-centred economic measurements such as life expectancy and employee well-being instead of or in addition to stuff like GDP and profitability is arguably also a big caveat to him being classified as a libertarian conservative, he overall is still largely one, just with many big caveats.

[Telconi]

Sounds like a great reason to vote for Warren

Everyone hates Zuckerberg

[South Odreria 2]

Do you guys see any pathway for Harris or worse to take hardcore Clintonites from Warren? Or can she count on them as a reliable part of her coaltion?

[Cannot think of a name]

Do you guys see any pathway for Harris or worse to take hardcore Clintonites from Warren? Or can she count on them as a reliable part of her coaltion?

Rather begs the question, doesn’t it? Let’s establish first what a “hardcore Clintonite” is and then establish that they are reliably for Warren or in fact for Warren at all.

[South Odreria 2]

Do you guys see any pathway for Harris or worse to take hardcore Clintonites from Warren? Or can she count on them as a reliable part of her coaltion?

Rather begs the question, doesn’t it? Let’s establish first what a “hardcore Clintonite” is and then establish that they are reliably for Warren or in fact for Warren at all.

My bad, Clinton fans don't exist.