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2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
65
62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
11
10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This is someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn't be respected.

Telconi wrote:
Hey, that's my line, don't go handing that shit out to Marches.

Don't fight over it Telconi, you and east marches are both treasonous and threats to america, happy? ;)

/Biting sarcasm


Given that you consider yourself "America" I'm disappointed in the sarcasm.
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Postby Republic of Turbin » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I dunno, might be nice for you guys to have an actually good president.

Biden would be far better president than Trump just by being in office.

He is the best definition of a status quo establishment candidate. If he wins the primary and election it will mean we learned nothing from these four years
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:58 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This is someone who said the peaceful transfer of power shouldn't be respected.

Telconi wrote:
Hey, that's my line, don't go handing that shit out to Marches.

Don't fight over it Telconi, you and east marches are both treasonous and threats to america, happy? ;)

/Biting sarcasm

Marches is a threat to all of civilization as we know it, and possibly the known universe, while Telconi is just your grumpy neighbor.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:59 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Don't fight over it Telconi, you and east marches are both treasonous and threats to america, happy? ;)

/Biting sarcasm

Marches is a threat to all of civilization as we know it, and possibly the known universe, while Telconi is just your grumpy neighbor.



SHUT IT DOWN SHE KNOWS

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:59 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
You mean the guy who actually armed Ukraine with anti tank missiles, artillery and counter battery equipment is a Russian puppet? You could have fooled me. Same with his strikes on Syria, wiping out that Russian PMC group or demanding NATO rearmament. I had no idea Ivan was purposely getting his shit pushed in. Thank God it was just as planned.

I am pretty amused at your pathetic failure to understand circumstances, evidence, law, rules of war, context, and pretty much everything regarding this.

You're not worth my time, nor my amusement.

~~Snip!~~
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:00 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Marches is a threat to all of civilization as we know it, and possibly the known universe, while Telconi is just your grumpy neighbor.

How old is Tel? 40?

I dunno, the way you describe him makes him sound like it.

You can have a grumpy neighbor who’s younger than 40. I’m a grumpy neighbor if you wake me up at 3 AM making loud noises outside my window.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:01 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
If my failure is so far reaching and pathetic, you ought to be willing to change my mind. With evidence I am willing to alter my opinion. Explain what makes him a puppet of the Kremlin in light of the above facts. I am quite eager to know.

Frankly I have a cold and migraine and I genuinely believe you're too brainwashed to change your mind.

And there's evidence proving the polarization has made people unwilling to accept facts or truth.

As such it's a waste of my time and I'd rather do stuff I enjoy.

I'm not arguing it in this instance, having a cold and migraine and arguing with someone on a internet forum. I've grown weary of arguing with lost causes.


How am I brainwashed? And to whose side? You can't go making these claims without giving us some proofs, its rather rude and unbecoming. Had you just said I wish not to explain , I'm feeling unwell and haven't the energy I'd not have objected. I'm a friendly fellow!

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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:01 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It's unfortunate that you feel that way.

At least Biden isn't a treasonous piece of crap.

That he’s not actively committing treason doesn’t mean he’s good.
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:05 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Considering he’s actually studied and participated in war, I’d say that you’re the one reaching.

I admit I chose a poor choice of words, I admit that mistake, that specific point was not relevant.


She is being too kind. I'm but a humble merchant. Think of me as you would Alex Jones. A simple water filter merchant.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:06 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
How am I brainwashed? And to whose side? You can't go making these claims without giving us some proofs, its rather rude and unbecoming. Had you just said I wish not to explain , I'm feeling unwell and haven't the energy I'd not have objected. I'm a friendly fellow!

Geh I apologize for my rudeness. Something is bothering me. And my migraine.
I swing between polite or rude depending on my mood, I apologize.


Its no problem old boy. It gets to the best of us. We all have a bad time of when sick. I hope you sleep well and recover quickly from your illness!
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:08 pm



Being charitable, one can interpret this as not wanting the GOP's worst elements to morph into a new monster which replaces them. Though I admit this is very generous and likely incorrect.

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:09 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I admit I chose a poor choice of words, I admit that mistake, that specific point was not relevant.

Snippity snip!
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:10 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Don't fight over it Telconi, you and east marches are both treasonous and threats to america, happy? ;)

/Biting sarcasm

Marches is a threat to all of civilization as we know it, and possibly the known universe, while Telconi is just your grumpy neighbor.


I'm not grumpy.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:


Being charitable, one can interpret this as not wanting the GOP's worst elements to morph into a new monster which replaces them. Though I admit this is very generous and likely incorrect.

It’s probably just another cry to those “moderate republicans” who we keep hearing about.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:11 pm

Telconi wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Marches is a threat to all of civilization as we know it, and possibly the known universe, while Telconi is just your grumpy neighbor.


I'm not grumpy.

I’m just joking!
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:13 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm not grumpy.

I’m just joking!


Jokes... bah humbug!
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:16 pm

Kowani wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Being charitable, one can interpret this as not wanting the GOP's worst elements to morph into a new monster which replaces them. Though I admit this is very generous and likely incorrect.

It’s probably just another cry to those “moderate republicans” who we keep hearing about.


Those Republicans in the suburbs gave them the house tbf. It's not all bad tactics. One wonders if it wouldn't be more effective to target the suburban women directly.

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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:17 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s probably just another cry to those “moderate republicans” who we keep hearing about.


Those Republicans in the suburbs gave them the house tbf. It's not all bad tactics. One wonders if it wouldn't be more effective to target the suburban women directly.


TFW the suburban Karen is the counterweight for our political pendulum.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:20 pm

Telconi wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Those Republicans in the suburbs gave them the house tbf. It's not all bad tactics. One wonders if it wouldn't be more effective to target the suburban women directly.


TFW the suburban Karen is the counterweight for our political pendulum.


[Internal Screaming]

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:21 pm

*whew* I need a drink after that blackpill Telconi. Gentlemen while I enjoyed your company, I shall return later.

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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:27 pm

The East Marches II wrote:*whew* I need a drink after that blackpill Telconi. Gentlemen while I enjoyed your company, I shall return later.


You're welcome for the drink.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:30 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
TFW the suburban Karen is the counterweight for our political pendulum.

Dammit Karen stop watching those Alex Jones shows!


I'd much rather she just veg out on some FNC for a while.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:35 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'd much rather she just veg out on some FNC for a while.

Ugh, that's all she watches, she's too anti-muslim and racist.

She needs to watch C-Span more.


FNC will guide her right. I had this old couple once that asked me to program the favorite channel options in their TV menu.

Their favorites were FNC, Fox Business, the local fox affiliate, and HGTV. It was amusing.
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Postby Republic of Turbin » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Ugh, that's all she watches, she's too anti-muslim and racist.

She needs to watch C-Span more.


FNC will guide her right. I had this old couple once that asked me to program the favorite channel options in their TV menu.

Their favorites were FNC, Fox Business, the local fox affiliate, and HGTV. It was amusing.

one time a suburban woman told me that Prager U and InfoWars were credible she then offered to write them down for me
Joe Biden

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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:39 pm

Republic of Turbin wrote:
Telconi wrote:
FNC will guide her right. I had this old couple once that asked me to program the favorite channel options in their TV menu.

Their favorites were FNC, Fox Business, the local fox affiliate, and HGTV. It was amusing.

one time a suburban woman told me that Prager U and InfoWars were credible she then offered to write them down for me


Isn't it grand?
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-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
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