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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
by Nakena
Luminesa wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
It's practically just Trump, there are like two other candidates but they're too low-profile to make a dent.

Eh, still slightly curious.


Bill Weld is running. The VP Candidate of Johnson's Aleppo libertarian bid of 2016.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
by Loben The 2nd
Luminesa wrote:
Gormwood wrote:
And you wonder why you got the boot.

And uh, you know, things like calling me a “sanctimonious ‘c***’” Soooo yeah. Ouch?

Who even is running from the Republican Party, beside Trump? I very clearly missed any additions to the race. Then again, I have been trying my best to ignore all the news I get from the NYT, because it’s about nothing but impeachment. I’m also too lazy to unsubscribe to the NYT.


what the shit?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by The East Marches II
Nakena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Eh, still slightly curious.


Bill Weld is running. The VP Candidate of Johnson's Aleppo libertarian bid of 2016.


He was really weak for a libertarian. He had no memetic power and he hasn't any now.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:50 pm
by Luminesa
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Luminesa wrote:And uh, you know, things like calling me a “sanctimonious ‘c***’” and essentially hoping I get raped. Soooo yeah. Ouch?

Who even is running from the Republican Party, beside Trump? I very clearly missed any additions to the race. Then again, I have been trying my best to ignore all the news I get from the NYT, because it’s about nothing but impeachment. I’m also too lazy to unsubscribe to the NYT.


what the shit?

Edit above.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:56 pm
by Northern Davincia
The East Marches II wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Bill Weld is running. The VP Candidate of Johnson's Aleppo libertarian bid of 2016.


He was really weak for a libertarian. He had no memetic power and he hasn't any now.

I'm still voting for him.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:16 pm
by Bear Stearns
Napkizemlja wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The punchline is, of course, that y'all like to say Gormwood has some weird fetish

Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.


My old nation had wild accusations about me generally being a rapist and a woman-hater because I opened up about my relationship with my parents.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:27 pm
by Cannot think of a name
Bear Stearns wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Not that this, or Gauth in general, has anything to do with the thread but tbf it is accurate given the offsite posts I bore witness to where rage posts against NSGers had an unhealthy level of sexual imagery.


My old nation had wild accusations about me generally being a rapist and a woman-hater because I opened up about my relationship with my parents.

Maybe you guys can form a support group and call it "My personal issues are not relevant to the 2020 elections".

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:35 pm
by Blargoblarg
Bear Stearns wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Does anyone actually take the “squad” seriously?



They are concerning because they are a preview of what most politicians will be like in 20 years.

So, politicians who actually care about the people they represent instead of the rich and the big corporations? Sounds great to me.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:03 am
by Pasong Tirad
Blargoblarg wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:

They are concerning because they are a preview of what most politicians will be like in 20 years.

So, politicians who actually care about the people they represent instead of the rich and the big corporations? Sounds great to me.

"All the Dems will be like the Squad someday!"

"Stop threatening me with a good time."

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:04 am
by Telconi
Blargoblarg wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:

They are concerning because they are a preview of what most politicians will be like in 20 years.

So, politicians who actually care about the people they represent instead of the rich and the big corporations? Sounds great to me.


But what about the people they don't represent?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:05 am
by Munkcestrian Republic
I think that, if he gets the Democratic nomination, Bernie will win West Virginia.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:16 am
by Telconi
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I think that, if he gets the Democratic nomination, Bernie will win West Virginia.


Highly unlikely, anything positive Bernie brings to the table is outweighed by the negatives. West Virginia will almost certainly go to Trump, and by similar margins as in 2016.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:23 am
by True Refuge
Telconi wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:So, politicians who actually care about the people they represent instead of the rich and the big corporations? Sounds great to me.


But what about the people they don't represent?


Should they be representing people from outside their district who they don’t represent?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:27 am
by Munkcestrian Republic
Telconi wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I think that, if he gets the Democratic nomination, Bernie will win West Virginia.


Highly unlikely, anything positive Bernie brings to the table is outweighed by the negatives. West Virginia will almost certainly go to Trump, and by similar margins as in 2016.

Check the polls. ;)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:30 am
by Cannot think of a name
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Highly unlikely, anything positive Bernie brings to the table is outweighed by the negatives. West Virginia will almost certainly go to Trump, and by similar margins as in 2016.

Check the polls. ;)

Well, it's December with no Democratic candidate and I can't find any polls on West Virginia specifically.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:57 am
by Munkcestrian Republic
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Check the polls. ;)

Well, it's December with no Democratic candidate and I can't find any polls on West Virginia specifically.

https://tulchinresearch.com/wp-content/ ... -Final.pdf

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:02 am
by Telconi
True Refuge wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But what about the people they don't represent?


Should they be representing people from outside their district who they don’t represent?


Or the ones inside their district.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:32 am
by Kowani
Pasong Tirad wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:So, politicians who actually care about the people they represent instead of the rich and the big corporations? Sounds great to me.

"All the Dems will be like the Squad someday!"

"Stop threatening me with a good time."

Image

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:32 am
by Cannot think of a name
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, it's December with no Democratic candidate and I can't find any polls on West Virginia specifically.

https://tulchinresearch.com/wp-content/ ... -Final.pdf

If there's one thing less assuring than a pole from December, it'd be a poll from March of 2018.

Which is not to say WV will be as it always was or whatever, but it's a long road to November 3.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:41 am
by True Refuge
Telconi wrote:
True Refuge wrote:
Should they be representing people from outside their district who they don’t represent?


Or the ones inside their district.


Are they not doing that?

One-line open-ended questions aren’t good openers. They’re difficult to engage with because there’s no detail to them. I don’t know what your opinion is or what you’re basing your original question on.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:46 am
by Telconi
True Refuge wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Or the ones inside their district.


Are they not doing that?

One-line open-ended questions aren’t good openers. They’re difficult to engage with because there’s no detail to them. I don’t know what your opinion is or what you’re basing your original question on.


Doing what? Representing the people they don't represent? I think the answer to that is self evident.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:09 am
by True Refuge
Telconi wrote:
True Refuge wrote:
Are they not doing that?

One-line open-ended questions aren’t good openers. They’re difficult to engage with because there’s no detail to them. I don’t know what your opinion is or what you’re basing your original question on.


Doing what? Representing the people they don't represent? I think the answer to that is self evident.


?

“Or the ones inside their district” suggests you’re talking about people within the districts. That’s what the question was about.

In full form, the question was “are not they not representing the people in their district?”.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:09 am
by Idzequitch
Well. With Sestak and Bullock gone, we're "down" to 16 "major" Democratic candidates.

I would argue that Williamson, Bennet, Delaney, and even Castro shouldn't be viewed as major candidates at this point, and frankly, there's no reason why any of them should stay in the race. I would argue that Booker and Gabbard should also drop out as it seems their messages aren't resonating with Democratic voters. Also Bloomberg and Patrick should never have joined and the sooner they're forced to drop back out, the better.

So yes there are 16 major candidates, but if you want to narrow that down to those who have even the slightest of slight chances of getting nominated, there's probably six. Maybe eight if you want to be extra generous and include Yang and Klobuchar.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:21 am
by Telconi
True Refuge wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Doing what? Representing the people they don't represent? I think the answer to that is self evident.


?

“Or the ones inside their district” suggests you’re talking about people within the districts. That’s what the question was about.

In full form, the question was “are not they not representing the people in their district?”.


Not all of them, of course.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:56 am
by The Rich Port
Idzequitch wrote:Well. With Sestak and Bullock gone, we're "down" to 16 "major" Democratic candidates.

I would argue that Williamson, Bennet, Delaney, and even Castro shouldn't be viewed as major candidates at this point, and frankly, there's no reason why any of them should stay in the race. I would argue that Booker and Gabbard should also drop out as it seems their messages aren't resonating with Democratic voters. Also Bloomberg and Patrick should never have joined and the sooner they're forced to drop back out, the better.

So yes there are 16 major candidates, but if you want to narrow that down to those who have even the slightest of slight chances of getting nominated, there's probably six. Maybe eight if you want to be extra generous and include Yang and Klobuchar.


I would go so far as to say there's one and a half candidates.

Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.

... Huh. Maybe Joe Biden should be the candidate, but have Sanders as his running mate.

Ooooooor.

Bernie Sanders, with Barack Obama as his VP candidate, as the rumblings have gone.