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Galloism wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Also snipping because your spurious conclusion flows from here.

Because again, you assign a value to this thing that basically only us consider a right and compare any discussion of its value as 'beyond the pale' and then make a spurious connection to a non-one to one relationship as if they are related. They are not, and a discussion of the efficacy of the right is valid and not beyond the pale. And you conflate restrictions based on it as a dissolution of the right which isn't what O'Rourke suggested unless you view any restriction as an outright ban, which is hyperbolic and belongs in the gun thread with the rest of the masturbatory arguments. O'Rourke proposed an extension of restrictions that are already in place and had in fact been in place before but expired. This hyperbole about rights is just that. And a distortion of the candidate's proposal which is at least related to what this thread is supposed to be about.

Banning cross examination of prosecution witnesses doesn’t completely eliminate due process, but it wounds it really badly.

Galloism wrote:

San Lumen wrote:He wont be the nominee.

That’s actually unfortunate in a way.

I know he walked it back, but he’s the first presidential candidate ever to address in public our widespread practice of male genital mutilation.

San Lumen wrote:

Galloism wrote:That’s actually unfortunate in a way.

I know he walked it back, but he’s the first presidential candidate ever to address in public our widespread practice of male genital mutilation.

He'd be a better president then Trump.

Galloism wrote:

San Lumen wrote:He'd be a better president then Trump.

I know a chimp or two that can meet that criteria.

San Lumen wrote:

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:As I said in the previous thread, I checked Andrew Yang's campaign site, he sounds like a Conservative Republican Economic Libertarian, not a Democrat Leftist. He could be in the US House or Senate as a Republican on the economy not a Democrat. But I did not check his foreign policy views.

So I posted I like him and I could vote for him as President if he were a Republican, and his foreign policy views were generally ok with me, as long as he was anti my pet issue on NS which I wont mention but we all know what it is. So a fellow nation posted back to me I would not like his foreign policy views, but he does sound like a Conservative Republican Economic Libertarian on the economy, not a leftist Democrat.

He wont be the nominee.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:

San Lumen wrote:He wont be the nominee.

lol, I posted on the previous thread, Andrew Yang has no chance in Heck to be the nominee of the Leftist Democrat Party of America, most of the hard left base wants a Bernie Warren ticket, or a Warren Bernie ticket.

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Galloism wrote:Banning cross examination of prosecution witnesses doesn’t completely eliminate due process, but it wounds it really badly.

I'm out. If that's the level we're at, I'm out. Go to the gun thread, they love that shit.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:

San Lumen wrote:He wont be the nominee.

lol, I posted on the previous thread, Andrew Yang has no chance in Heck to be the nominee of the Leftist Democrat Party of America, most of the hard left base wants a Bernie Warren ticket, or a Warren Bernie ticket.

Galloism wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm out. If that's the level we're at, I'm out. Go to the gun thread, they love that shit.

If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

San Lumen wrote:

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:lol, I posted on the previous thread, Andrew Yang has no chance in Heck to be the nominee of the Leftist Democrat Party of America, most of the hard left base wants a Bernie Warren ticket, or a Warren Bernie ticket.

Warren has a better chance of being the nominee than Bernie. He has a hard ceiling he can't seem to break out of .

Galloism wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm out. If that's the level we're at, I'm out. Go to the gun thread, they love that shit.

If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

Galloism wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm out. If that's the level we're at, I'm out. Go to the gun thread, they love that shit.

If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

San Lumen wrote:

Galloism wrote:If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

when the second amedment was created we had muskets not ak-47s. and well regulated militias no longer exist. They became the National Guard. The amendment is seriously outdated.

Farnhamia wrote:

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:lol, I posted on the previous thread, Andrew Yang has no chance in Heck to be the nominee of the Leftist Democrat Party of America, most of the hard left base wants a Bernie Warren ticket, or a Warren Bernie ticket.

It's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. You wouldn't like it if people referred to the Republican Party by a snide nickname.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Warren has a better chance of being the nominee than Bernie. He has a hard ceiling he can't seem to break out of .

I agree with you Warren has a better chance of being the nominee, who all do you think she might choose as her Vice?

The natural choice would be Bernie Sanders, they are close personal friends, respect each other very much, and share many similar political views.

Gormwood wrote:

Galloism wrote:If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

Only in America are guns considered human rights, as if they are an innate part of the human anatomy and zeitgeist rather than something that took centuries to be invented and refined.

Christ.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Warren has a better chance of being the nominee than Bernie. He has a hard ceiling he can't seem to break out of .

I agree with you Warren has a better chance of being the nominee, who all do you think she might choose as her Vice?

The natural choice would be Bernie Sanders, they are close personal friends, respect each other very much, and share many similar political views.

Bombadil wrote:

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:I agree with you Warren has a better chance of being the nominee, who all do you think she might choose as her Vice?

The natural choice would be Bernie Sanders, they are close personal friends, respect each other very much, and share many similar political views.

She'd need to go with someone younger, and I wonder if she might go for an all-female ticket.

San Lumen wrote:

Galloism wrote:If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

when the second amedment was created we had muskets not ak-47s. and well regulated militias no longer exist. They became the National Guard. The amendment is seriously outdated.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
She'd need to go with someone younger, and I wonder if she might go for an all-female ticket.

Yes, I considered this possibility too.

Gormwood wrote:

Galloism wrote:If they stop trying to ban substantial portions of my civil rights, I’ll stop pointing it out.

To Obama’s credit, I appreciated him signing that law that allows carriage in national parks. That law never made sense - there’s bears.

Only in America are guns considered human rights, as if they are an innate part of the human anatomy and zeitgeist rather than something that took centuries to be invented and refined.

Christ.

Galloism wrote:Arms go back to the beginning of what we understand to be human, and probably before.

Kowani wrote:

Galloism wrote:Arms go back to the beginning of what we understand to be human, and probably before.

So does rape.

Kowani wrote:

Galloism wrote:Arms go back to the beginning of what we understand to be human, and probably before.

So does rape.

Galloism wrote:

Kowani wrote:So does rape.

Also true, as does murder, breathing, eating plants, and arguing about how things should be handled.

But in point of fact, the objection that guns are, historical terms, modern, so aren’t rights doesn’t make any sense. Arms go back as far as humans.