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2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
65
62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
11
10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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U right


I mean, Warren and Pete do go well together, but on the other hand those are the two candidates with the whitest coalitions, which makes for a weak ticket. Of current candidates, I think Yang is a good contrast for Warren both physically and personality-wise, but he may be too strong a character for a running mate. It's probably a non-candidate then, as Ngelmish said.

Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

He’s better than Buttigieg.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:46 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
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U right

Valrifell wrote:Yang wouldn't be a good running mate for Warren. Imo, Buttigieg seems like the better pick for her, I feel like they vibe well.

I mean, Warren and Pete do go well together, but on the other hand those are the two candidates with the whitest coalitions, which makes for a weak ticket. Of current candidates, I think Yang is a good contrast for Warren both physically and personality-wise, but he may be too strong a character for a running mate. It's probably a non-candidate then, as Ngelmish said.
He's right tho. I mean it's dishonest if true, but gaslighting is when you call into question the mental health of the person questioning.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

Well of course you're right, but on the other hand he is no less qualified than an unsuccessful mayor of a very small city

Kubra wrote: He's right tho. I mean it's dishonest if true, but gaslighting is when you call into question the mental health of the person questioning.

Yes, I was abusing the term. My apologies.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

He’s better than Buttigieg.


Who is in turn better than Harris
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:He’s better than Buttigieg.


Who is in turn better than Harris

It’s hard to go lower than Harris.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Who is in turn better than Harris

It’s hard to go lower than Harris.


It's like a game of moral limbo...
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:08 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:He’s better than Buttigieg.


Who is in turn better than Harris

Yes, but Harris sucks.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:11 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

Well of course you're right, but on the other hand he is no less qualified than an unsuccessful mayor of a very small city

Kubra wrote: He's right tho. I mean it's dishonest if true, but gaslighting is when you call into question the mental health of the person questioning.

Yes, I was abusing the term. My apologies.
oh well alright cool carry on you good man
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Postby Corrian » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:12 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

He’s better than Buttigieg.

How so?

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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:He’s better than Buttigieg.

How so?

For one, he is against something Buttigieg hasn’t commented on at all:

Mutilating childrens’ genitals on the basis of sex.
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Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:14 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How so?

For one, he is against something Buttigieg hasn’t commented on at all:

Mutilating childrens’ genitals on the basis of sex.


circumcision/here we go again/my my/how could I forget you?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:16 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Galloism wrote:For one, he is against something Buttigieg hasn’t commented on at all:

Mutilating childrens’ genitals on the basis of sex.


circumcision/here we go again/my my/how could I forget you?

Some stuff is important.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:He’s better than Buttigieg.

How so?

For one thing he has policies. And, he's not a smarmy neoliberal sock puppet.
Galloism wrote:Some stuff is important.

Maybe important enough for its own thread.

ALSO: Is it bad that I'm starting to like Williamson unironically?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:20 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
ALSO: Is it bad that I'm starting to like Williamson unironically?

Yes.
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Postby Saturna1ia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:25 pm

The biggest and most important question at this point is will Warren have enough momentum to surpass Biden? Sanders is going to stay exactly where he is, and has been since the last election, perpetually stuck in 2nd place. Warren can chip at the edges of Sanders support base, but the majority are steadfastly loyal. Biden's supporters, outside of middle-aged and older blacks, are not so loyal. Are they enough to block Warren's path? Who will most of the lower tier candidates supporters go to as they slowly drop out?
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:29 pm

If Biden stays in first place but Warren and Sanders together have a majority of delegates, I think Warren will have more and be the nominee, since she is the second choice of more of the lesser-candidate voters. However, Sanders has the better chance of the two to win an outright majority of delegates, since he is the second chance of more Biden voters.
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Postby Pacomia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:29 pm

Kowani wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:
ALSO: Is it bad that I'm starting to like Williamson unironically?

Yes.

Says it all.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:33 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yes.

Says it all.

You realize the Onion is satire.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:34 pm

Kowani wrote:

You realize the Onion is satire.

The line gets blurrier by the day.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:34 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yes.

Says it all.

It could be that the hurricane turning away from Florida was a blessing that was conditional on people praying for it.
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Postby Pacomia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:36 pm

Kowani wrote:

You realize the Onion is satire.

Yeah, yeah. Still though the mere fact that this seems like something she would actually say is concerning In itself.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:37 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:

It could be that the hurricane turning away from Florida was a blessing that was conditional on people praying for it.

Considering all the other disasters, I don’t think that was it.

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:You realize the Onion is satire.

The line gets blurrier by the day.

…I hate that this is true.
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Postby Ngelmish » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:56 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yang is too inexperienced to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency

He’s better than Buttigieg.


Are you still angry that he accurately knocked Bernie's 2016 campaign?

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Postby Galloism » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:46 am

Ngelmish wrote:
Galloism wrote:He’s better than Buttigieg.


Are you still angry that he accurately knocked Bernie's 2016 campaign?

I don't get angry, and doubly so over things that didn't happen.

There's nothing accurate about it.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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